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Are you wary of travelling to USA currently?

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RosaMoline · 21/02/2025 14:42

I am sure you will tell me I’m BU, but that’s fine!
I’ve been to the states numerous times - Florida (all over, not just Disney/Orlando), New York City, California (los Angeles), Massachusetts and New Orleans.
Myself and 2 adult DCs were planning to go to Orlando again this October. Primarily for Halloween and DS (28) is autistic & very fixated with all things Disney.
DD (30) and I decided not to go ahead and take DS to Disneyland Paris instead. Yes, we’ve been there before, and it doesn’t really compare to the US version (IMO) not even close, but DS won’t mind.
it’s solely down to the current POS in charge and all his minions. America seems (to me) to be on a knife edge, very volatile, and DD being LGBT is understandably unsettled too.
I am not the sort of person who usually would even give a moment’s thought to something like this, but I just have a really uneasy feeling about going there. Chances are, at age 58, I may never go again.
AIBU or would you be thinking twice at the moment about travelling there? (especially Florida which is a red state)
I detest that man SO much!

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Drylogsonly · 22/02/2025 07:58

bumblefeline · 21/02/2025 17:42

I'm planning our usual summer two weeks to the USA at the moment and will be going. Hoping the flights come down in price a bit with everyone planning on not going.

They’ll go up if planes can’t be filled, not down and there will be less services running to choose from.

nearlylovemyusername · 21/02/2025 22:38

BigDecisionWorthIt · 21/02/2025 19:34

Oh the irony....

Our own PM has been caught out in a number of lies already in his short time in.

Threatening other countries? The use of StormShadow to target installations in Russia.....

We as a country are not innocent and wholesome. So shouldn't really be throwing stones.

Well, I absolutely despise current Labour gov but I'd vote for them every day of my life if the choice was between them and Musk/Trump.
StormShadows for targeting Russia - that's one of the very few items I'm actually proud of and agree with them.
US to me now joined the likes of putin and Russia and it's impossible to get any lower than this.

nearlylovemyusername · 21/02/2025 22:20

I wouldn't go to US now under any circumstances.
If nothing else, I don't want to spend a single penny there to support their economy. And no, I'm not using Amazon or Netflix anymore. Nor X or Facebook.

Crushed23 · 21/02/2025 21:42

Sampler · 21/02/2025 21:27

@Crushed23 how come if your life is sooo good your on a Brit parenting site on a Friday night ? Lol

It's not Friday night. I'm still at work... procrastinating haha. Also I'm English! So MN is very relatable.

aModernClassic · 21/02/2025 21:34

Sampler · 21/02/2025 21:27

@Crushed23 how come if your life is sooo good your on a Brit parenting site on a Friday night ? Lol

You do realise that there's a time difference between the UK and America, right?

Sampler · 21/02/2025 21:27

@Crushed23 how come if your life is sooo good your on a Brit parenting site on a Friday night ? Lol

ByCyanMoose · 21/02/2025 21:18

RosaMoline · 21/02/2025 14:42

I am sure you will tell me I’m BU, but that’s fine!
I’ve been to the states numerous times - Florida (all over, not just Disney/Orlando), New York City, California (los Angeles), Massachusetts and New Orleans.
Myself and 2 adult DCs were planning to go to Orlando again this October. Primarily for Halloween and DS (28) is autistic & very fixated with all things Disney.
DD (30) and I decided not to go ahead and take DS to Disneyland Paris instead. Yes, we’ve been there before, and it doesn’t really compare to the US version (IMO) not even close, but DS won’t mind.
it’s solely down to the current POS in charge and all his minions. America seems (to me) to be on a knife edge, very volatile, and DD being LGBT is understandably unsettled too.
I am not the sort of person who usually would even give a moment’s thought to something like this, but I just have a really uneasy feeling about going there. Chances are, at age 58, I may never go again.
AIBU or would you be thinking twice at the moment about travelling there? (especially Florida which is a red state)
I detest that man SO much!

I agree that the atmosphere in Florida would not be pleasant for an LGBTQ individual. But the real reason I would not travel to the US right now is that their government has been plunged into chaos overnight, with entire departments shuttered, critical employees fired without notice, and a complete collapse in morale among remaining staff.

At some point in the next few weeks or months, this is going to start affecting the basic functions of government. This includes things like maintaining transport infrastructure (eg air traffic controllers, railways) and also the agencies responsible for ensuring the security of major events and tourist sites. So FBI, CIA, federal law enforcement of all sorts.

If it hasn’t already, FIFA needs to seriously consider moving the 2026 World Cup. You can’t secure an event of that size or complexity if your security services are under strength, disorganized, and riven by factionalism and paranoia.

PurpleThistle7 · 21/02/2025 21:07

I am glad that so many people don’t feel the affects of the massive, shattering changes that have happened in the last month. But that is because you have some sort of privilege - you aren’t gay or an immigrant living in America or relying on an income from one of the 100000 jobs he’s cut or in need of pregnancy care. But just because that doesn’t affect you, doesn’t mean it isn’t happening and all of that combines to make me both anxious about being there and frustrated at spending money there.

I do wonder if eventually we’d have to consider our safety at visiting as we are joint uk / us citizens so while in the states we are Americans. I am hoping it’s just irrational panic but WW2 and the handmaids tale keep going round in my head on a loop.

Donotwantnot · 21/02/2025 20:58

Breezeblock · 21/02/2025 20:51

Oh yes, you don’t want a plane full of irrational people spouting HYPERBOLE when you travel 😆

No, I don’t…

Breezeblock · 21/02/2025 20:51

Donotwantnot · 21/02/2025 20:47

Don’t go. I’d rather my plane isn’t full of irrational people spouting hyperbole when I travel. Thanks.

Oh yes, you don’t want a plane full of irrational people spouting HYPERBOLE when you travel 😆

Donotwantnot · 21/02/2025 20:47

Don’t go. I’d rather my plane isn’t full of irrational people spouting hyperbole when I travel. Thanks.

mathanxiety · 21/02/2025 20:26

FKAT · 21/02/2025 18:11

I'm wary of travelling to the US mainly because of the food prices. I remember sending DC last year to the corner shop in Miami Beach with $20 and they came back with 2 cans of pop and a small pack of sweets. DH paid $90 for breakfast in a chain restaurant last week.

Civil War? Grin

Quite honestly, your H should have got up and left after he read the menu. I have spent a lot less than $90 on dinner delivery for five adults. Also, giving a child cash and sending him or her alone to a corner shop isn't a good idea.

RosaMoline · 21/02/2025 20:15

Imbusytodaysorry · 21/02/2025 20:07

@RosaMoline why at 58 would you never get to go to America again?

Also is everyone thinking civil war on America is no one thinking along the lines of world war. ?

Wouldn’t rule it out completely…when HE’s gone…but in all honesty, I feel that next year will be the last time I go on any long haul trips. I’ll probably stick to European destinations after I’ve hopefully been to Japan. My favourite place is Mijas pueblo.

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Imbusytodaysorry · 21/02/2025 20:07

@RosaMoline why at 58 would you never get to go to America again?

Also is everyone thinking civil war on America is no one thinking along the lines of world war. ?

Parker231 · 21/02/2025 19:49

BellaEllaWella · 21/02/2025 19:44

Some of these comments are verging on hysteria. I’m not a Trump fan but wouldn’t think twice about visiting the US and will do later this year.
I don’t anticipate my experience being any different to any other time I’ve travelled -
I’m not sure exactly what people think might happen?!

I don’t think anything is going to happen to tourists - we were in Boston last night for the 4Nations final and there wasn’t any trouble. It’s more whether you want to visit a country with Trump as President who is threatening to take other countries, ethnically cleanse Gaza and align with Putin over Ukraine?

BellaEllaWella · 21/02/2025 19:44

Some of these comments are verging on hysteria. I’m not a Trump fan but wouldn’t think twice about visiting the US and will do later this year.
I don’t anticipate my experience being any different to any other time I’ve travelled -
I’m not sure exactly what people think might happen?!

Parker231 · 21/02/2025 19:38

BigDecisionWorthIt · 21/02/2025 19:34

Oh the irony....

Our own PM has been caught out in a number of lies already in his short time in.

Threatening other countries? The use of StormShadow to target installations in Russia.....

We as a country are not innocent and wholesome. So shouldn't really be throwing stones.

I live in Canada, not the UK and Trump is threatening us.

EasternStandard · 21/02/2025 19:38

I don't have a desire to go anyway but if I did I'd still go

I feel lucky enough to have travelled there when younger and would choose other places rn

Parker231 · 21/02/2025 19:37

Crushed23 · 21/02/2025 19:31

You’re happy living in a country with a convicted felon as President who constantly lies and now threatens other countries? @Parker231

It doesn't cross my mind, in all honesty. Day to day life is great here and an improvement on when I lived in the UK. This is my personal experience, I obviously can't speak for everyone who lives here. But I am a very positive and grateful person in general - a more 'American' attitude to life than a British one, I guess. Maybe that's why I like it so much here. Tonight I am going to a rave with my date and a group of friends, having had to chose from a myriad of things to do on a Friday night because we live in such an exciting city and everyone in my social circle here loves going out (and has ample disposable income to do so because jobs pay a lot better). There are so many reasons that I can't get into, but life is just so good here. 🙂

Thankfully when we left the UK, we chose Canada 🇨🇦

BigDecisionWorthIt · 21/02/2025 19:34

Parker231 · 21/02/2025 19:23

You’re happy living in a country with a convicted felon as President who constantly lies and now threatens other countries?

Oh the irony....

Our own PM has been caught out in a number of lies already in his short time in.

Threatening other countries? The use of StormShadow to target installations in Russia.....

We as a country are not innocent and wholesome. So shouldn't really be throwing stones.

Crushed23 · 21/02/2025 19:31

You’re happy living in a country with a convicted felon as President who constantly lies and now threatens other countries? @Parker231

It doesn't cross my mind, in all honesty. Day to day life is great here and an improvement on when I lived in the UK. This is my personal experience, I obviously can't speak for everyone who lives here. But I am a very positive and grateful person in general - a more 'American' attitude to life than a British one, I guess. Maybe that's why I like it so much here. Tonight I am going to a rave with my date and a group of friends, having had to chose from a myriad of things to do on a Friday night because we live in such an exciting city and everyone in my social circle here loves going out (and has ample disposable income to do so because jobs pay a lot better). There are so many reasons that I can't get into, but life is just so good here. 🙂

Shakeoffyourchains · 21/02/2025 19:31

Upstartled · 21/02/2025 14:52

No. I'd happily go to America.
Civil war, Jesus🤣

Not sure why your laughing at the idea.

It's not like the right wing are going to realise they've been played like fools by the likes of rump and Musk.

In a year or so time, when their lives have gotten worse, not better, they'll continue swallow the rhetoric and blame migrants, liberals, LGBT, democrats, etc, etc for their woes and it'll only be a short hop to pogroms of the "left" from there.

Crushed23 · 21/02/2025 19:23

Lol at the exaggerated posts about CoL. Yes, food is expensive but $90 on breakfast is in no way representative. A breakfast out for me is a $6 bagel, or $15 if I want to stretch to avo-toast. I don't remember London being much cheaper tbh.

Fangisnotacoward · 21/02/2025 19:23

I wouldn't go on principle, but that's just me.

Parker231 · 21/02/2025 19:23

Crushed23 · 21/02/2025 19:19

I live here and everything is fine. In fact, my quality of life has improved vastly since leaving the UK last year!

You’re happy living in a country with a convicted felon as President who constantly lies and now threatens other countries?

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