Are you wary of travelling to USA currently?

We are just back from the States and it was fine. We booked the trip months ago when we just assumed that there was no way Trump would get back in. We had a good time but it was way more expensive than we remember.

Haven't read all (at time of posting) 11 pages, but I hope I'm not the only one frankly terrified by the catastrophic breakdown of infrastructure in that hellhole? More than 8 air traffic incidents since the mango Mussolini took office and his boss fired air traffic controllers, so, any flights at all, especially internal ones? No thanks.

This is EXACTLY the same as in russia! My LG friends were abused so many times when travelling there! and US are becoming the same... this is terrifying.
I'm most definitely boycotting everything American now, SM and Amazon first of all. Google will be very difficult to avoid unfortunately

So anyone that thinks that Trump is a danger to democracy must be on benefits? The fact that you think that you're funny is utterly tragic.

Well we are going to the USA in May. Too late to back out! We always enjoy the USA but for the first time, we are going to one Democrat state and two Republican states. We had a chat only last night about avoiding politics!

We were in Arizona and Utah in 2016 and a few people asked us what Brits thought about Trump. They then declared themselves to be Democrats. We had pleasant conversations with them and listened to their concerns. This time!! ? Who knows. We are coming up with a phrase to respect their decision. My DH is potentially a loose cannon and we are so angry about the rubbish being spouted about Ukraine and support for Russia.

We might have been unhappy about being a poodle to the USA but now we are literally irrelevant. I guess we don’t have minerals. Nothing for Trump here and he’s not going to listen to anyone in the UK. No idea what happens about our “soft power” now? Can Charles and Camilla save the day?

You’ve really shown your true colours there.

FWIW our joint income is £780k. We spend a lot of money when we go.

I would suggest giving @dottiehens the attention he/she (it?) deserves. Pretty much the same semi-literate ranting on almost every political thread. I always just think this when I see the name pop up

The problem with the approach of "we didn't fire anyone in a safety critical post" (to the best of Elon's knowledge) is that even if that were true, all the other work for which they fired people still needs to be done, which means those doing safety critical jobs might have to take on extra things.
This then reduces their focus on the critical elements and increases their stress.

It's extremely shortsighted.

There's massive wealth inequality in America. This is a fact. Historically, wealth tends to be redistributed by wars or plague or collapse of state or revolution (I guess). See Ww2, plague making labour scarce and therefore more lucrative.

The current US administration will make wealth inequality worse. They are planning on reducing access to benefits and healthcare. They will give the very rich tax cuts.

This situation is ripe for civil war.

I'm going to Canada instead.

We’ve changed our planned Xmas family visit from the US to Canada. The US relatives are going to come to Canada and we’ll have a big family get together there. Can’t wait.
US family live in the South… and we said we aren’t bring the grandkids there, so this is the chance to have something different.

If this kind of nastiness is what being wealthy does for you give me a benefits claimant any day of the week. Money is the same, regardless of its source. Every boycott hurts.

Quebec is gorgeous - particularly in the winter. In laws live there - we’re south in Montreal. Have a great time!

Aww did the direct action upset you into throwing pathetic insults around? Diddums.

Sadly, I've never been, despite having cousins on Vancouver Island. My DF, who'd worked overseas in loads of different countries, spent nearly 2 years in Nova Scotia and said that of all the places he'd been, Canada was the one he'd most like to live in.

Yes, they are so worried over there about the boycott from the people on benefits in the UK. 🤣

@LakieLady yep- we are likely going to Quebec at new year- love Canadians too -

I've only used Amazon as a last resort for years, since I heard about the appalling employment practices in their distribution centres, but I wouldn't use Airbnb now and I'm boycotting Mars products and many others (Heinz, Kraft etc). Johnson & Johnson is a tricky one, as their products aren't immediately obvious, but I'm never buying anything where it's obvious, or those brands I know of, eg Neutrogena.

My FB account was disabled due to lack of use years ago and I don't use Twatter, Insta or Tik Tok.

Well said! I encourage people to avoid supporting US owned companies.

I'm no longer using Amazon, Airbnb and also cutting down on social media (FB, Insta etc). I was in the supermarket the other day and ignored the US products (there was a promotion of US groceries in Lidl).

I will also be joining in the No Buy days - first one upcoming is 28th Feb. They urge you to spend no money on Amazon and other big US companies, and to only shop very locally only if you need to with small businesses.

I wouldn't dream of going to the US while the fascist megaloon is in charge, not because of fear of unrest, but because I don't want to do anything that will benefit a country that can elect someone who is both stupid and malign. I'm doing my utmost to avoid buying stuff produced by US-owned companies, too.

If I was minded to have a long-haul trip any time soon, I'd go to Canada.

How would they ever know if someone was travelling with a same sex partner?

I mean… many ways. Same sex partners hold hands, kiss each other, coparent, book a hotel room with a double bed? That is one of the more odd comments on this thread. Unless you go out of your way to hide it, many random people you come across while living your life will know who your partner is. At the moment, it’s unfortunately a safety issue in far too many places so people are being secretive but that’s a bad thing and not something to encourage.

Well our kids calling us both mother would give it away quite quickly. We have had to be careful or had horrible comments made before in the USA PRE-Trump so I don’t think it’ll be improving any now.
And unfortunately some people DO care that others are in a same-sex relationship. They care very much. They’re called bigots or homophobes and they can be nasty, and down right dangerous.

People that scoff at the idea that the US is descending into fascism probably think that they are not part of a group that will be targetted to lose their jobs/Medicare/Medicaid/be deported and have no empathy for the people who will be targetted.

Lots of people are loving the cruelty, but there are people who voted for Trump who are in the targetted groups and they are outraged that it is happened to them.

Very quickly the government is descending into fascism.

Trump has just removed the heads of the military but some kind of resistance isn’t unlikely.

it took less than two months in Germany.

People that scoff at the idea seem a bit naive to me.