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Are you wary of travelling to USA currently?

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RosaMoline · 21/02/2025 14:42

I am sure you will tell me I’m BU, but that’s fine!
I’ve been to the states numerous times - Florida (all over, not just Disney/Orlando), New York City, California (los Angeles), Massachusetts and New Orleans.
Myself and 2 adult DCs were planning to go to Orlando again this October. Primarily for Halloween and DS (28) is autistic & very fixated with all things Disney.
DD (30) and I decided not to go ahead and take DS to Disneyland Paris instead. Yes, we’ve been there before, and it doesn’t really compare to the US version (IMO) not even close, but DS won’t mind.
it’s solely down to the current POS in charge and all his minions. America seems (to me) to be on a knife edge, very volatile, and DD being LGBT is understandably unsettled too.
I am not the sort of person who usually would even give a moment’s thought to something like this, but I just have a really uneasy feeling about going there. Chances are, at age 58, I may never go again.
AIBU or would you be thinking twice at the moment about travelling there? (especially Florida which is a red state)
I detest that man SO much!

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foureightnine · 21/02/2025 15:35

dottiehens · 21/02/2025 15:31

I could not care less where do you go or not.

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I don’t think anyone asked wheter you care or not. And I wasn’t about to tell you where we go either, so there is not much for you to involve yourself in.

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RosaMoline · 21/02/2025 15:35

pinotnow · 21/02/2025 15:32

We are booked to go in the summer as a special holiday to mark the end of the dc's A levels and GCSEs. It's their first time out of Europe and was booked before the election. We'll be in blue states on the East Coast. To be honest, I am regretting it but there's nothing I can do without wasting a lot of money and disappointing the dc so I'm trying to look on the bright side. Even flying there seems less safe now and I do wish we had stuck to Europe. 🙄

Try not to worry. I’d be a little more relaxed (just!) about going to a blue state. It was 10 years ago, but the nicest place I went to (in terms of inclusivity) was Massachusetts. They were so lovely, kind and welcoming to my SN son.

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MissConductUS · 21/02/2025 15:34

RandomButtons · 21/02/2025 14:43

I think they are headed for civil war tbh.

Yank here. That's wildly unlikely.

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RosaMoline · 21/02/2025 15:32

As a PP said upthread, I’m worried about the right to bear arms too. Too many gun nuts on the loose out there.

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pinotnow · 21/02/2025 15:32

We are booked to go in the summer as a special holiday to mark the end of the dc's A levels and GCSEs. It's their first time out of Europe and was booked before the election. We'll be in blue states on the East Coast. To be honest, I am regretting it but there's nothing I can do without wasting a lot of money and disappointing the dc so I'm trying to look on the bright side. Even flying there seems less safe now and I do wish we had stuck to Europe. 🙄

dottiehens · 21/02/2025 15:31

foureightnine · 21/02/2025 15:27

Not advising. We are adults and can decide for ourselves, same as you. And we don’t want to go anymore. It’s got nothing to do with that they don’t need our money, we just don’t want to go. It’s not a great country.

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I could not care less where do you go or not.

ARealitycheck · 21/02/2025 15:30

RosaMoline · 21/02/2025 15:23

We won’t be going into Paris city centre. Disneyland Paris is on the outskirts. I’ve been to Paris a few times and wasn’t worried (yes, I know there have been terrorist acts committed there) - I live close to London, and don’t give it a second thought when I go into the city. It’s comparable to Paris in my opinion.

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The Parisiennes themselves love a good riot and demo. 😂

Crikeyalmighty · 21/02/2025 15:29

I love visiting certain bit of USA - both pleasure and work- but am giving it a swerve for a good while -

foureightnine · 21/02/2025 15:28

dottiehens · 21/02/2025 15:26

Oh I am so offended by this. I won’t sleep tonight.

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I wasn’t even talking to you tbf. Sleep or don’t sleep.

pearbottomjeans · 21/02/2025 15:28

I would, but mainly about guns, and worried the same when we went in 2018. Hoping to go this October as well. I was on alert for gunmen every time we were in a petrol station or diner etc! Too much social media for me I think! I have no idea how Disney etc haven’t had a terrorist attack yet but they must have robust procedures as surely it would be a prime target.

foureightnine · 21/02/2025 15:27

dottiehens · 21/02/2025 15:21

Confused ? Nah just sick of the idiots throwing the toys out of the pram. The US is perfectly fine to travel to may be check that advise of travel to US in the government page. Are they advising people not to travel to the US? It must be confusing being so dumb.

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Not advising. We are adults and can decide for ourselves, same as you. And we don’t want to go anymore. It’s got nothing to do with that they don’t need our money, we just don’t want to go. It’s not a great country.

FuckMeUpFlorida · 21/02/2025 15:26

Yes I'm headed there next month, but then I live in a 'scary' middle eastern country so it's water off a ducks back when you're hearing negativity all the time.

DH is American and all of his nuclear family are based there. Going on our annual visit to a red state.

dottiehens · 21/02/2025 15:26

foureightnine · 21/02/2025 15:24

I watched Schitt’s Creek last night, and this is exactly how the confused adult son talks. 😂 It’s great.

Who is that? What is that talk? I do not know what you mean with that?

Oh I am so offended by this. I won’t sleep tonight.

BigDecisionWorthIt · 21/02/2025 15:25

I've gone for YABU. But at the same time YANBU because it's upto you on how comfortable/uncomfortable you feel with travelling there.

Not an ideal or best time with Trump.

Although some changes lgbt wise, that's not changed for travellers/immigration. I know enough through the immigration discords I am on where travel/moving/entering for the first time has been completely normal, safe and welcomed.

Overall, still safer than Paris and France has had more unrest recently than America.

StandFirm · 21/02/2025 15:24

ThisBlueDeer · 21/02/2025 15:22

He can mention it all he wants, he still denies he lost the 2020 election but Biden took over anyway. I believe it needs two thirds of congress to change the constitution which he won’t get so I can’t see him staying on for a third term. I’m sure he’ll get like last time but if anything I think last time showed how robust the American constitution is.

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Which is precisely why he is on a swift demolition mission. His aim must be to make the constitution toothless by the Midterms. If he succeeds, the US election process would be about as fair as Russia's.

foureightnine · 21/02/2025 15:24

I watched Schitt’s Creek last night, and this is exactly how the confused adult son talks. 😂 It’s great.

Who is that? What is that talk? I do not know what you mean with that?

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RosaMoline · 21/02/2025 15:23

ARealitycheck · 21/02/2025 15:18

Far more chance of being involved in public disturbance in Paris than any of the American tourist areas.

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We won’t be going into Paris city centre. Disneyland Paris is on the outskirts. I’ve been to Paris a few times and wasn’t worried (yes, I know there have been terrorist acts committed there) - I live close to London, and don’t give it a second thought when I go into the city. It’s comparable to Paris in my opinion.

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ThisBlueDeer · 21/02/2025 15:22

RandomButtons · 21/02/2025 15:18

He’s repeatedly mentioning a third term. He doesn’t think the rules apply to him.

www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-third-term-2028-amendment-b2702225.html

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He can mention it all he wants, he still denies he lost the 2020 election but Biden took over anyway. I believe it needs two thirds of congress to change the constitution which he won’t get so I can’t see him staying on for a third term. I’m sure he’ll get like last time but if anything I think last time showed how robust the American constitution is.

dottiehens · 21/02/2025 15:21

foureightnine · 21/02/2025 15:19

You seem very confused.

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Confused ? Nah just sick of the idiots throwing the toys out of the pram. The US is perfectly fine to travel to may be check that advise of travel to US in the government page. Are they advising people not to travel to the US? It must be confusing being so dumb.

foureightnine · 21/02/2025 15:21

dottiehens · 21/02/2025 15:17

Orange messiah? Who is that? What is that talk? I do not know what you mean with that? I do not live my life by having politics to rule my world. I think some people are way too ridiculous and affecting their own mental health. May be I should have said you are a grown up and should not go if you feel that way?

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She is a grown up. She is not going.

I’m not in the UK or America, but politics does very much affect everyone.

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RosaMoline · 21/02/2025 15:19

dottiehens · 21/02/2025 15:17

Orange messiah? Who is that? What is that talk? I do not know what you mean with that? I do not live my life by having politics to rule my world. I think some people are way too ridiculous and affecting their own mental health. May be I should have said you are a grown up and should not go if you feel that way?

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Stop being deliberately obtuse. You know perfectly well who I’m referring to.
And like I said, I’ve seen you kissing his backside on other threads.
Delusional.

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mindutopia · 21/02/2025 15:19

I am a US citizen and I would not travel to the US right now. I’m so sure of that that I’ve let my dc’s passports lapse and will only keep mine current because I do still have family there and might have to travel in an emergency (but reluctantly!).

foureightnine · 21/02/2025 15:19

dottiehens · 21/02/2025 15:17

Orange messiah? Who is that? What is that talk? I do not know what you mean with that? I do not live my life by having politics to rule my world. I think some people are way too ridiculous and affecting their own mental health. May be I should have said you are a grown up and should not go if you feel that way?

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You seem very confused.

Sunnydays25 · 21/02/2025 15:18

I wouldn't go to the US as I wouldn't want to support any country with an autocratic ruler, and travelling to the US as a tourist is supporting the current regime - I also wouldn't go to Dubai, Saudi or Israel

I would also be worried that Tump has embolded racist misogynists to call out anyone they don't like the look of, and as I'm not a white Christian man, I don't want to risk being told to 'go home' by someone with a gun.

RandomButtons · 21/02/2025 15:18

dottiehens · 21/02/2025 15:13

Well that is ok he won’t be releected anyway. However, the polls? Really still on about polls after the last election polls? 🤔

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He’s repeatedly mentioning a third term. He doesn’t think the rules apply to him.

www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-third-term-2028-amendment-b2702225.html

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