Page 12 | Are you wary of travelling to USA currently?

RosaMoline · 2025-02-21T14:42:15+00:00

I am sure you will tell me I’m BU, but that’s fine! I’ve been to the states numerous times - Florida (all over, not just Disney/Orlando), New York City, California (los Angeles), Massachusetts and New Orleans. Myself and 2 adult DCs were planning to go to Orlando again this October. Primarily for Halloween and DS (28) is autistic & very fixated with all things Disney. DD (30) and I decided not to go ahead and take DS to Disneyland Paris instead. Yes, we’ve been there before, and it doesn’t really compare to the US version (IMO) not even close, but DS won’t mind. it’s solely down to the current POS in charge and all his minions. America seems (to me) to be on a knife edge, very volatile, and DD being LGBT is understandably unsettled too. I am not the sort of person who usually would even give a moment’s thought to something like this, but I just have a really uneasy feeling about going there. Chances are, at age 58, I may never go again. AIBU or would you be thinking twice at the moment about travelling there? (especially Florida which is a red state) I detest that man SO much!

ChaosAndToast · 21/02/2025 15:57

I'm considering cancelling my November holiday, I'll lose £2.5 but it seems a small price to pay.

Breezeblock · 21/02/2025 15:57

dottiehens · 21/02/2025 15:07

Do not go they won’t need you or your money. Go somewhere where your values aligned. You seem way too old to be in a place where you do not want to be. However, they will be ok either way if you go or not. Plus, there does not seem to be a running hysteria about not going.

This reminds me of studying history at school in the 1990s. Where we were talked about finding evidence of past political beliefs through newspapers, cartoons, letters etc.

The future version will be based on past social media posts. This one’s a perfect example of a certain type of mindset. Very illustrative.

Drylogsonly · 21/02/2025 15:56

Florida isn’t a safe state for anyone gay.

proporop · 21/02/2025 15:55

As a protest against the current administration and what is going on, I've cancelled all plans to go there for forseeable.

Canadians are cancelling their hols as well I see - lots of potential lost tourist revenue.

Not to mention the air safety issues - Trump has fired a load more aviation officials - which I understand means commercial flights will be less safe:

www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/trump-musk-faa-firings-purge-air-safety-1235271233/

VickyEadieofThigh · 21/02/2025 15:53

My partner and I are both L - we're off to Miami to join a cruise next month.

I think Trump is insane but I really don't feel remotely threatened.

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RosaMoline · 21/02/2025 15:52

user17353 · 21/02/2025 15:51

We were going to visit this summer. We are now going somewhere else.

I no longer view the US as a friendly country. As someone in my 50s who has lived through various turbulent times, I'm more worried than I have ever been about the state of the world and its trump and musk that are responsible.

It’s good to know I’m not alone in my thoughts and fears.

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user17353 · 21/02/2025 15:51

We were going to visit this summer. We are now going somewhere else.

I no longer view the US as a friendly country. As someone in my 50s who has lived through various turbulent times, I'm more worried than I have ever been about the state of the world and its trump and musk that are responsible.

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RosaMoline · 21/02/2025 15:50

Allthegoodnamesarechosen · 21/02/2025 15:49

You are less likely to be stabbed randomly in the States than In Birmingham or Dublin.

But the chances of getting shot in a massacre are higher!

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medianewbie · 21/02/2025 15:50

RandomButtons · 21/02/2025 15:04

Rise of facism, DOGE erasing public workers left right and centre, Trump basically declaring war on multiple nations, calling himself King, making unilateral decisions that go against their constitution, declaring that no one can speak against him.

He’s setting himself up as a dictator (a puppet one at that), and the American constitution is designed to prevent a dictator or King arising. The people are constitutionally allowed to overthrow that. That basically means civil war.

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Perfectly put.
Also, swinging cuts to everything may well affect the safety of, eg, air traffic control. I am female & disabled, I have 2 ASD YP (1 is LGB). Not the place for us atm. We would travel to Canada tho.

Overtheatlantic · 21/02/2025 15:50

I’m heart broken at what’s happening to the U.S. and talk of civil war is utterly anathema to me. That would mean Americans killing other Americans. I consider trump and his administration to be traitors and I hope he gets impeached and removed from office.

Allthegoodnamesarechosen · 21/02/2025 15:49

You are less likely to be stabbed randomly in the States than In Birmingham or Dublin.

BIossomtoes · 21/02/2025 15:48

dottiehens · 21/02/2025 15:17

Orange messiah? Who is that? What is that talk? I do not know what you mean with that? I do not live my life by having politics to rule my world. I think some people are way too ridiculous and affecting their own mental health. May be I should have said you are a grown up and should not go if you feel that way?

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Of course you know what was meant. Unless you’ve been living in a cupboard for the last ten years.

I was planning a trip to the US next year but I refuse to give it my money at the moment. I might consider it post 2028 if they come to their senses and elect someone half sensible.

foureightnine · 21/02/2025 15:47

Tacocatgoatcheesepizza · 21/02/2025 15:41

We are going to California at Easter and have no plans to cancel as it is so close now.

We’ve been to the US loads of times, mainly as we are Disney nuts. It’s like a second home so I follow the politics fairly closely. I am speechless at how quickly things have gone completely crazy. Literally speechless. It was bad enough last time but this is on a whole new level and I genuinely fear the possible outcomes for the world over this. Would I be booking a holiday now? Possibly not, I think there is the potential for things to spiral completely out of control very quickly. Could I see Trump and Musk taking offence or dislike to another country and deciding to go to war? I can’t believe I’m saying this but actually I think it is in the realms of possibility. Because they’re not operating inside normal parameters, so normal rules just don’t seem to apply anymore.

Not only that, I love flying and am perfectly happy getting on a plane, but it’s hard not to raise an eyebrow at the number of accidents that have happened in a very short space of time.

Well said.

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RosaMoline · 21/02/2025 15:45

Andylion · 21/02/2025 15:43

Canadian, here, I was planning on going to the states in the spring to meet up with friends. I am no longer going. No fucking way am I setting foot over the border and spending my money to support their economy. I will spend my vacation in Canada,

We’re really keen on visiting Canada at some point as we’ve never been ♥️

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ExercicenformedeZ · 21/02/2025 15:45

RosaMoline · 21/02/2025 15:41

I do see your POV.
However, some of the horrific and batshit things we’ve witnessed since DT became POTUS again, we would’ve not believed possible
months ago too. It was bad enough first time around. This is 1000 x worse.

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What makes you think that what is happening will lead to a civil war, though? That would take a very specific set of circumstances which don't look likely to occur. I'm not saying that things aren't bad in the US, but I don't think that there will be a war.

CanadianJohn · 21/02/2025 15:45

I was thinking of taking a winter vacation, maybe Florida. However, I've decided not to spend any money in the US. Some other country can have my vacation money.

Voting with my feet, or dollars, in this case.

Tvp123 · 21/02/2025 15:43

I wouldn't be worried about going there but I wouldn't be going there in protest of what is going on. I doubt there will be a full on civil war and if there is it won't be in October but later on.

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RosaMoline · 21/02/2025 15:43

Tacocatgoatcheesepizza · 21/02/2025 15:41

We are going to California at Easter and have no plans to cancel as it is so close now.

We’ve been to the US loads of times, mainly as we are Disney nuts. It’s like a second home so I follow the politics fairly closely. I am speechless at how quickly things have gone completely crazy. Literally speechless. It was bad enough last time but this is on a whole new level and I genuinely fear the possible outcomes for the world over this. Would I be booking a holiday now? Possibly not, I think there is the potential for things to spiral completely out of control very quickly. Could I see Trump and Musk taking offence or dislike to another country and deciding to go to war? I can’t believe I’m saying this but actually I think it is in the realms of possibility. Because they’re not operating inside normal parameters, so normal rules just don’t seem to apply anymore.

Not only that, I love flying and am perfectly happy getting on a plane, but it’s hard not to raise an eyebrow at the number of accidents that have happened in a very short space of time.

This. Well said.

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Andylion · 21/02/2025 15:43

Canadian, here, I was planning on going to the states in the spring to meet up with friends. I am no longer going. No fucking way am I setting foot over the border and spending my money to support their economy. I will spend my vacation in Canada,

Tacocatgoatcheesepizza · 21/02/2025 15:41

We are going to California at Easter and have no plans to cancel as it is so close now.

We’ve been to the US loads of times, mainly as we are Disney nuts. It’s like a second home so I follow the politics fairly closely. I am speechless at how quickly things have gone completely crazy. Literally speechless. It was bad enough last time but this is on a whole new level and I genuinely fear the possible outcomes for the world over this. Would I be booking a holiday now? Possibly not, I think there is the potential for things to spiral completely out of control very quickly. Could I see Trump and Musk taking offence or dislike to another country and deciding to go to war? I can’t believe I’m saying this but actually I think it is in the realms of possibility. Because they’re not operating inside normal parameters, so normal rules just don’t seem to apply anymore.

Not only that, I love flying and am perfectly happy getting on a plane, but it’s hard not to raise an eyebrow at the number of accidents that have happened in a very short space of time.

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RosaMoline · 21/02/2025 15:41

MissConductUS · 21/02/2025 15:34

Yank here. That's wildly unlikely.

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I do see your POV.
However, some of the horrific and batshit things we’ve witnessed since DT became POTUS again, we would’ve not believed possible
months ago too. It was bad enough first time around. This is 1000 x worse.

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MumCanIHaveASnackPlease · 21/02/2025 15:40

I would never go because I don’t want to get shot. This view hasn’t changed.

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RosaMoline · 21/02/2025 15:38

The last time I went to Florida was in 2008 which coincided with the elections, which were weeks away. It was Obama/McCain. How civilised and different it was.

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dottiehens · 21/02/2025 15:37

ExercicenformedeZ · 21/02/2025 15:36

On what grounds do you think that they are headed for civil war?

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Yes, please elaborate.

ExercicenformedeZ · 21/02/2025 15:36

RandomButtons · 21/02/2025 14:43

I think they are headed for civil war tbh.

On what grounds do you think that they are headed for civil war?