To think that now is the time for powerful voices to speak up…

You are of course wrong. No idea why you would possibly think this.

Very powerful voices with huge platforms did speak up. From Hollywood icons to huge music stars with millions of followers, multiple news agencies, politicians around the world, they all ridiculed and liabled and vilified Trump and musk - and then we saw men in women's sports and spaces, ridiculous DEI quotas, and the most powerful, but most invisible, voice spoke in the election.

The American voters listened to all of this and still voted Trump, why do you think that was? Every single person who voted for him in 2024 knew exactly what type of person and President he was from 2016, and every powerful voice in the world spoke up against him and he STILL got voted in? Why do you think that was?

I am no fan of trump, by the way, but I am not as convinced that he is a warmongering misogynist idiot as i used to be.

Kamala Harris, trudeu, starmer et al tho? No thanks.

He’s created a concentration camp in the Panama jungle. It took Hitler two months to create the first one. Trump took power less than a month ago.

If you hadn't noticed he's getting involved in a lot of things that he doesn't understand properly ie foreign policy. He doesn't care about the outcome either.

Yes it is chilling how similar the situation is in the Middle East — a genocide is being carried out by a state headed by a facist and racist government.
Only this time instead of defending and fighting for the victims of this genocide, as the Allies did in WW2, the West is complicit in it. Huh,🤔 what gives.

Meanwhile the US is run by a bunch of people who care remarkably less for those that voted for them and would prefer people weren’t able to vote at all, or for that fact have human rights. Nothing to worry about though, I’m sure.

I don't think it's the"big" people who will rescue the world from Trump and Musk. I think it will be millions of little people who will just say fuck off you arrogant twats.

The people leading the opposition to them in America are the low paid civil servants.

The United force of millions of "little" people are who I m putting my trust and hope in.

Completely agree. And that’s without taking into account his attitude to women.

Or there are resources within the region that he wants. Or both. Or lots of other reasons. He has still invaded another country in much the same way that Hitler did. His reasons are moot. It was wrong. He is the aggressor. He is the bully. He needs to be stood up to. As does the giant orange toddler.

That’s a wildly inaccurate characterization

Trump has made parallels between what Hitler did and what he wants to do and the way he has operated and the events that have been unfolding are chillingly like WWII since his first term.

It’s not missing the point.

I can see where he's coming from.

The best evidence we have now suggests that Putin believed that an independent, democratic Ukraine is a threat to him and to Russia.

He sees Ukraine's interest in joining NATO as an act of war.
Unfortunately, Putin’s decided that the only way to deal with that threat is through the use of overwhelming military force.

Just words. He's called lots of people lots of things. The rest of the World are free to support Ukraine if they wish

I believe continuing this conversation would be like trying to teach a fish to ride a bicycle.

No, it hasn’t. Next.

It is absolutely the point.

It’s been debunked. Repeatedly. Next.

Putin helped him get elected. They are not enemies, but allies. It will be Poland and Finland next.

Missing the point how?

He did and the he called Zelinsky a dictator for not having elections despite Ukraine having a rule about no elections during war. Signed in 2015 so before Zelinsky was elected.

Trump doesn't let facts get in the way of his rhetoric

Absolutely. Appeasing him is dangerous. If you give a bully an inch they will take much more than a mile. You have to stand up to them. We appeased Hitler and kept him close at the start of WWII and look what happened there.

Bless you. Easy to parrot someone else’s lines and completely miss the point, isn’t it?

No. He wants Ukraine to hand over half its mineral rights. He’s called its leader a dictator. He supports the Russian attempt to annex Ukraine. That’s far more than simply withdrawing military aid.

Listening to how Trump and Musk have spoken about Ukraine - I agree. I haven't liked how they have started to try and tell the UK what we should be doing either. In my head I have the Love Actually speech to the president that maybe needs to be said out loud...

	Prime Minister?
	<a class="break-all" href="https://m.imdb.com/name/nm0000424/?ref_=ttqu_qu" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Prime Minister</a>: I love that word &quot;relationship.&quot; Covers all manner of sins, doesn&#039;t it? I fear that this has become a bad relationship; a relationship based on the President taking exactly what he wants and casually ignoring all those things that really matter to, erm... Britain. We may be a small country, but we&#039;re a great one, too. The country of Shakespeare, Churchill, the Beatles, Sean Connery, Harry Potter. David Beckham&#039;s right foot. David Beckham&#039;s left foot, come to that. And a friend who bullies us is no longer a friend. And since bullies only respond to strength, from now onward I will be prepared to be much stronger. And the President should be prepared for that.