To think that now is the time for powerful voices to speak up…

Alifemoreordinary123 · 2025-02-20T20:14:50+00:00

I’m not highly educated or hugely politically savvy. But like many people, I’m horrified by Trump and Musk’s approach, propaganda and ideology. It’s increasingly possibly they will take the world to a very dark place. I keep thinking, surely there are enough counter powers - people with power and influence, leaders from business, media, the arts, politics across the Western world to try and counter some of their rhetoric. I’m not naive to the immense power they hold, but surely reason, sense, logic and hope will win over?

Coolasfeck · 23/02/2025 06:21

JHound · 22/02/2025 16:39

I see that the Orange Man just fired the highly qualified but black Chairman of the Joint Chief of Staffs and replaced him with a much less qualified but white man.

How are people not yet realising that “DEI hire” is just the new euphemism for the N-word and the B-word? American leadership is a complete racist shitshow and the way there is complete silence is worrying. He makes me long for the days of George W Bush!

Yes this follows on the heals of firing the first woman to lead one of the six military services. Also likely replaced by a white man. This is all disgusting.

https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20250121-trump-fires-first-woman-to-head-a-us-military-service

Princessconsuelabananahammock9 · 23/02/2025 01:18

JHound · 22/02/2025 16:39

I see that the Orange Man just fired the highly qualified but black Chairman of the Joint Chief of Staffs and replaced him with a much less qualified but white man.

How are people not yet realising that “DEI hire” is just the new euphemism for the N-word and the B-word? American leadership is a complete racist shitshow and the way there is complete silence is worrying. He makes me long for the days of George W Bush!

So fucking sad.

JHound · 22/02/2025 16:42

Coolasfeck · 22/02/2025 07:42

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14421211/trump-steve-bannon-nazi-salute-cpac-elon-musk.html

They are not even bothering to pretend what they are now they are in power.

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But but but the ADL said it wasn’t a Nazi salute!

They have never hidden who they were so everybody who supports them is openly supporting this type of narrative.

JHound · 22/02/2025 16:39

I see that the Orange Man just fired the highly qualified but black Chairman of the Joint Chief of Staffs and replaced him with a much less qualified but white man.

How are people not yet realising that “DEI hire” is just the new euphemism for the N-word and the B-word? American leadership is a complete racist shitshow and the way there is complete silence is worrying. He makes me long for the days of George W Bush!

neverthelastone · 22/02/2025 16:20

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59thStreetBridgeSong · 22/02/2025 14:55

SugarPlumpFairyCakes · 21/02/2025 08:45

Russia was provoked to invade Ukraine?

I've never seen so many people keen to endorse Putin and his ambitions. It's frightening.

Luckily there are many many more people and governments who recognise Putin for what he is.

Trump is Krasnov. Has been since the 1980s.

Yes - an inconvenient truth that he was spying for Russia and he has been put where he is by the Kremlin. Now Russia have a green light to invade more countries.

ThenUm · 22/02/2025 11:11

username299 · 22/02/2025 07:26

Why do you think capitulating to dictators is pulling a blinder? Ukraine could have rolled over and handed Kyiv to Russia when they first invaded if that's what they wanted to do.

So if North Korea invaded the South, the South should just wave a white flag and hand over their natural resources and land?

Millions lost their lives fighting these fuckers in the world wars and you're cheering them on.

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Quite.

Shudacudawuda · 22/02/2025 08:57

Mila6464 · 22/02/2025 07:33

Agreement with whom?

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I'm guessing the PP is referring to this:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14423219/volodymyr-zelensky-surrenders-donald-trump-sign-mineral-deal-hours.html

Princessconsuelabananahammock9 · 22/02/2025 08:53

Coolasfeck · 22/02/2025 07:42

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14421211/trump-steve-bannon-nazi-salute-cpac-elon-musk.html

They are not even bothering to pretend what they are now they are in power.

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So disgusting.

I can only imagine the excuses people will have for him now.

Coolasfeck · 22/02/2025 07:42

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14421211/trump-steve-bannon-nazi-salute-cpac-elon-musk.html

They are not even bothering to pretend what they are now they are in power.

Mila6464 · 22/02/2025 07:33

hamstersarse · 22/02/2025 07:16

I think this is exactly what Trump has been doing - why he’s been slaying Zelensky https://x.com/scottadamssays/status/1892629486627389832?s=10

And we wake up to news an agreement is imminent. I really think Trump has pulled off a blinder if that happens today

Agreement with whom?

username299 · 22/02/2025 07:26

hamstersarse · 22/02/2025 07:16

I think this is exactly what Trump has been doing - why he’s been slaying Zelensky https://x.com/scottadamssays/status/1892629486627389832?s=10

And we wake up to news an agreement is imminent. I really think Trump has pulled off a blinder if that happens today

Why do you think capitulating to dictators is pulling a blinder? Ukraine could have rolled over and handed Kyiv to Russia when they first invaded if that's what they wanted to do.

So if North Korea invaded the South, the South should just wave a white flag and hand over their natural resources and land?

Millions lost their lives fighting these fuckers in the world wars and you're cheering them on.

BIossomtoes · 22/02/2025 07:17

hamstersarse · 22/02/2025 07:16

I think this is exactly what Trump has been doing - why he’s been slaying Zelensky https://x.com/scottadamssays/status/1892629486627389832?s=10

And we wake up to news an agreement is imminent. I really think Trump has pulled off a blinder if that happens today

It won’t.

hamstersarse · 22/02/2025 07:16

I think this is exactly what Trump has been doing - why he’s been slaying Zelensky https://x.com/scottadamssays/status/1892629486627389832?s=10

And we wake up to news an agreement is imminent. I really think Trump has pulled off a blinder if that happens today

ThenUm · 22/02/2025 06:58

@Donotwantnot… ”for the people in these regions to actually wake up and DO something themselves”

Wow. Did you actually think those thoughts and then write them down publicly?

That is another level of psychopathy. ‘These people’. JFC. What have I just read?

Where is your humanity? What has gone so horribly wrong in your life that you think like this?

Further proof that you are absolutely not someone worth listening to. Get some therapy.

ThenUm · 22/02/2025 06:52

Willyoujustbequiet · 21/02/2025 23:21

The first is based on what he said regarding removing Palestinians from Gaza. Against their will from their homeland is the definition of ethnic cleansing. Their words.

The second - so you're saving he's a liar and he didn't mean what he's said numerous times now. Good to know.

Third. Are you on glue?

Shameful.

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Glue = All news sources coming from Social
Media with a particular algorithm creating only an echo chamber of the currently very toxic and highly dangerous misinformation that is akin to Nazi propaganda at the beginning of WWII but far worse as technology means it’s much easier to spread.

Technology also means that we can seek out fact checking and search for alternatives to our own world view. Get news from various sources.

I suspect @Donotwantnot doesn’t engage in the latter from the posts I’ve read of theirs which makes me far less likely to take them seriously.

So yeah. On glue. Not likely to give up the glue. Utterly bonkers.

Willyoujustbequiet · 21/02/2025 23:46

Donotwantnot · 21/02/2025 23:27

It’s really not
Alternatively - a lot of what he is saying (such as Gaza = Dubai Take 2) is being said to act as a motivator for the people in these regions to actually wake up and DO something themselves. I know, right? Imagine that there are possibilities outside of your black and white thinking.

Yes, you’re right about something - how shameful it is that the majority of people seem to have lost critical thinking skills. I can barely muster up the energy to put the above points across in threads like these, and when I do, it’s usually short-lived. It’s simply not worth my time nor energy. I have zero desire to convince you even if I could, which I couldn’t, because you’re not interested in ideas, you’re interested in rhetoric and ideology. It’s so utterly dull.

Enjoy replying. I won’t be reading it.

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The irony of your comment is clearly beyond you 😂

Llttledrummergirl · 21/02/2025 23:32

Donotwantnot · 21/02/2025 23:27

It’s really not
Alternatively - a lot of what he is saying (such as Gaza = Dubai Take 2) is being said to act as a motivator for the people in these regions to actually wake up and DO something themselves. I know, right? Imagine that there are possibilities outside of your black and white thinking.

Yes, you’re right about something - how shameful it is that the majority of people seem to have lost critical thinking skills. I can barely muster up the energy to put the above points across in threads like these, and when I do, it’s usually short-lived. It’s simply not worth my time nor energy. I have zero desire to convince you even if I could, which I couldn’t, because you’re not interested in ideas, you’re interested in rhetoric and ideology. It’s so utterly dull.

Enjoy replying. I won’t be reading it.

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You are absolutely correct that people have lost critical thinking skills. Look at the load of bollocks you've just posted. That demonstrates a major lack of any thinking skills, let alone critical ones.

Princessconsuelabananahammock9 · 21/02/2025 23:31

Donotwantnot · 21/02/2025 23:27

It’s really not
Alternatively - a lot of what he is saying (such as Gaza = Dubai Take 2) is being said to act as a motivator for the people in these regions to actually wake up and DO something themselves. I know, right? Imagine that there are possibilities outside of your black and white thinking.

Yes, you’re right about something - how shameful it is that the majority of people seem to have lost critical thinking skills. I can barely muster up the energy to put the above points across in threads like these, and when I do, it’s usually short-lived. It’s simply not worth my time nor energy. I have zero desire to convince you even if I could, which I couldn’t, because you’re not interested in ideas, you’re interested in rhetoric and ideology. It’s so utterly dull.

Enjoy replying. I won’t be reading it.

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I’m not convinced you’ve been reading to begin with.

Donotwantnot · 21/02/2025 23:27

Willyoujustbequiet · 21/02/2025 23:21

The first is based on what he said regarding removing Palestinians from Gaza. Against their will from their homeland is the definition of ethnic cleansing. Their words.

The second - so you're saving he's a liar and he didn't mean what he's said numerous times now. Good to know.

Third. Are you on glue?

Shameful.

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It’s really not
Alternatively - a lot of what he is saying (such as Gaza = Dubai Take 2) is being said to act as a motivator for the people in these regions to actually wake up and DO something themselves. I know, right? Imagine that there are possibilities outside of your black and white thinking.

Yes, you’re right about something - how shameful it is that the majority of people seem to have lost critical thinking skills. I can barely muster up the energy to put the above points across in threads like these, and when I do, it’s usually short-lived. It’s simply not worth my time nor energy. I have zero desire to convince you even if I could, which I couldn’t, because you’re not interested in ideas, you’re interested in rhetoric and ideology. It’s so utterly dull.

Enjoy replying. I won’t be reading it.

Willyoujustbequiet · 21/02/2025 23:21

Donotwantnot · 21/02/2025 23:09

The first is your feelings not fact.
The second isn’t going to happen.
The third…looking likely.

The theme is you don’t get it.

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The first is based on what he said regarding removing Palestinians from Gaza. Against their will from their homeland is the definition of ethnic cleansing. Their words.

The second - so you're saving he's a liar and he didn't mean what he's said numerous times now. Good to know.

Third. Are you on glue?

Shameful.

Donotwantnot · 21/02/2025 23:09

Willyoujustbequiet · 21/02/2025 21:48

Proposing ethnic cleansing? (Gaza)
Suggesting taking over a sovereign country? (Canada)
Accusing the leader of a country that was invaded of being a dictator?

There's a theme there. 1930s Germany.

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The first is your feelings not fact.
The second isn’t going to happen.
The third…looking likely.

The theme is you don’t get it.

Willyoujustbequiet · 21/02/2025 22:06

BIossomtoes · 21/02/2025 07:48

Exactly that. Trump’s a useful idiot.

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This is the part I struggle with

Trump is just Putin's lapdog now. Total capitulation. He's too stupid to realise he's being controlled. But the hardcore supporters ......I wonder why his blatant cowardice re Russia isn't causing them to desert him?

Willyoujustbequiet · 21/02/2025 21:48

Donotwantnot · 20/02/2025 20:21

I wish our government was being as forthright as Trump and Co are. I’m cheering them on. It’s world changing, yes. But in a good way.

What exactly do you object to? Cost cutting? Reducing financial waste? Stopping fraud? Efficiency?

Proposing ethnic cleansing? (Gaza)
Suggesting taking over a sovereign country? (Canada)
Accusing the leader of a country that was invaded of being a dictator?

There's a theme there. 1930s Germany.

Jumpingthruhoops · 21/02/2025 20:48

Princessconsuelabananahammock9 · 21/02/2025 05:36

What friends is he keeping close?

Canada? Because repeatedly hearing we will be the 51st State isn’t helping our relationship.

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Putin. The comment I replied to.