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When a relative bites your child

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Roberta2020 · 20/02/2025 15:27

I don't want to delve into details, because I am still angry about it.
Let's just say that a relative on my husband's side bit my child to teach them 'how it feels when you bite your brother'.
I was raised to be respectful of elders, so obviously I said nothing and consoled my screaming child, but since then I have felt unable to leave my child alone around that relative.
The relative in question, after saying 'I did it for his own good', changed their tune and started saying they did not do it in front of my husband. My child is adamant he was bitten.
I trust my child. I am not willing to leave him alone with that relative again.
Am I being unreasonable? Am I being too much? Should I give them the benefit of doubt?

OP posts:
pinkstripeycat · 21/02/2025 17:44

QueenAstrid · 20/02/2025 15:40

Missing the point much? OP assuming you won’t go to the police I would never see this relative again and let them know why.

I agree with you. That poster is totally missing the point

Julimia · 21/02/2025 17:42

Would your child be willing to be left with this person? This is nowadays considered to be the wrong way to go about this. The adult needs seriously telling....tantamount to assault.

MumTeach88 · 21/02/2025 17:40

I wouldn't be seeing them again. It's not OK. And those who bite to show biting hurts, all you're doing is saying to a brain at that developmental stage "We bite when people do something we don't like"

Sharptonguedwoman · 21/02/2025 17:37

Ponderingwindow · 20/02/2025 15:59

“Respect your elders”?!? You are the parent. You are in charge. It is your job to protect your child, even if that means chastising someone older than you.

you need to think of yourself as the mother bear. She will do anything to protect her cubs.

Oh please no.

MyLimeGuide · 21/02/2025 17:33

needapokerface · 20/02/2025 15:40

My daughter bit me on the fleshy part of my boob when she was about 2, a full set of teeth marks were visible for hours and I bit her on her arm not as hard as she bit me but enough to know it hurts.

It was the 1st and last time she ever bit anyone.

Old school is sometimes the best way, as they have no idea how much it hurts till they experience it.

I bet it was, probably the last time she trusted her mum also. Why would you be proud of this????

satsumaqueen · 21/02/2025 15:13

Do you know the relative actually bit your child? You didn’t mention any marks and seemed to give the impression you me child was the one screaming and who told you about it?

Kids lie, could it possible they got caught biting their sibling, got told off and the relative said they would bite them back if they did it again and started screaming? My son has a screamed in the past when he’s been caught up to no good. No one’s touched him, it’s just how he reacts sometimes.

If they did bite your child, I honestly cannot believe you didn’t say anything. Respect is earnt not given, and I wouldn’t be respecting any person who thought it was acceptable to assault my child. Don’t care what age or relation they are.

A 4 year old should not be going around biting people. Is this a common occurrence that everyone around you is sick of witnessing all the time and you not doing anything to stop it? I’m not defending their actions, but at some point someone has to step in a discipline a child who is harming other children (not physically I might add, but I know some of the older generation resort to it as that’s what they know). My son is the same age and has never bitten anyone. I know all children are different but it’s really not acceptable for a 4 year old to be biting his younger brother when he is tired and you need to get on top of that. The way you worded it seemed to brush over it as a normal thing kids do, and it really isn’t.

IButtleSir · 21/02/2025 15:13

ACatNamedRobin · 20/02/2025 16:07

@Dozycuntlaters
Why is it abuse if it's just doing something to someone that they did to you??

Because one person is a child and the other is an adult, obviously. What a very stupid question.

thepariscrimefiles · 21/02/2025 15:01

sandyhappypeople · 21/02/2025 14:55

It takes some special kind of person to take a toddler's little arm and bite hard enough to cause pain to 'teach them a lesson'.

You don't actually know that is what happened, OP didn't seem to see any physical evidence of what happened. just that her child is adamant it happened and she believes them (if there was a physical mark or scar or teeth impressions she wouldn't be relying on her child to tell the truth, she would have seen it for herself) she was there immediately as soon as it happened so if someone had bitten them hard enough to cause pain there would have been evidence of it, I don't condone anyone physically punishing your child, but he could well have been crying from shock rather than pain.

If this sort of behaviour was acceptable and effective, why isn't this technique used by adults on other adults that they have authority over?

TBH this is such a ridiculous thing to say and I've seen it said quite a lot on here, it really isn't comparable at all.. if an adult came up to you and pushed you.. would you just stand there or would you push them back? What if they pushed or kicked or bit your child? Would you stand there or would you intervene and defend your child?

This wasn't some random attack from an adult to a child, it was one child biting, who at 4 is more than old enough to know that their actions are causing pain and suffering to a smaller weaker child and the adult intervening in a way they thought age appropriate to stop it happening/defend the younger child.

I don't agree with the persons actions AT ALL and would never tolerate someone doing that to my child, family member or not, but it is nothing like your boss biting you for not getting a project in on time FFS.. what a silly comparison.

Instead of making excuses about her 4 year old being tired and overstimulated, she should be safeguarding her younger child from his attacks and this probably wouldn't have happened in the first place.

My post was in response to a poster who said that she bit her own toddler daughter's arm hard enough to hurt her and teach her a lesson after her daughter bit her on the boob.

sandyhappypeople · 21/02/2025 14:55

thepariscrimefiles · 21/02/2025 08:47

I don't think that biting small children was ever acceptable, even 30 years ago. It takes some special kind of person to take a toddler's little arm and bite hard enough to cause pain to 'teach them a lesson'.

If this sort of behaviour was acceptable and effective, why isn't this technique used by adults on other adults that they have authority over? Would a manager biting a member of their staff who made a mistake be OK? If not, why not, if physical punishments are acceptable to use on small children, why not use them on adults?

It takes some special kind of person to take a toddler's little arm and bite hard enough to cause pain to 'teach them a lesson'.

You don't actually know that is what happened, OP didn't seem to see any physical evidence of what happened. just that her child is adamant it happened and she believes them (if there was a physical mark or scar or teeth impressions she wouldn't be relying on her child to tell the truth, she would have seen it for herself) she was there immediately as soon as it happened so if someone had bitten them hard enough to cause pain there would have been evidence of it, I don't condone anyone physically punishing your child, but he could well have been crying from shock rather than pain.

If this sort of behaviour was acceptable and effective, why isn't this technique used by adults on other adults that they have authority over?

TBH this is such a ridiculous thing to say and I've seen it said quite a lot on here, it really isn't comparable at all.. if an adult came up to you and pushed you.. would you just stand there or would you push them back? What if they pushed or kicked or bit your child? Would you stand there or would you intervene and defend your child?

This wasn't some random attack from an adult to a child, it was one child biting, who at 4 is more than old enough to know that their actions are causing pain and suffering to a smaller weaker child and the adult intervening in a way they thought age appropriate to stop it happening/defend the younger child.

I don't agree with the persons actions AT ALL and would never tolerate someone doing that to my child, family member or not, but it is nothing like your boss biting you for not getting a project in on time FFS.. what a silly comparison.

Instead of making excuses about her 4 year old being tired and overstimulated, she should be safeguarding her younger child from his attacks and this probably wouldn't have happened in the first place.

NiftyKoala · 21/02/2025 13:20

thepariscrimefiles · 21/02/2025 08:56

Children who are physically punished by their parents are more likely to display aggressive and anti-social behaviours. Therefore, it is counter-productive as well as morally wrong.

Where did I say he should have been physically punished? I was responding to someone one talking about a boy's parent who didn't parent. Nothing at all to do with what punishment. Have a lovely day.

Concentrationlost · 21/02/2025 09:10

I'd imagine the only 'valuable lesson' these posters taught their DC was 'Mummy is not your safe place'.

Concentrationlost · 21/02/2025 09:07

thepariscrimefiles · 21/02/2025 08:47

I don't think that biting small children was ever acceptable, even 30 years ago. It takes some special kind of person to take a toddler's little arm and bite hard enough to cause pain to 'teach them a lesson'.

If this sort of behaviour was acceptable and effective, why isn't this technique used by adults on other adults that they have authority over? Would a manager biting a member of their staff who made a mistake be OK? If not, why not, if physical punishments are acceptable to use on small children, why not use them on adults?

Do you know what, last night after reading this thread, I actually looked at my 3 YOs tiny little arms and that made the thread all the more distressing. How could anyone want to harm such a tiny person? Some posters on this thread seem very proud, and almost seem to take pleasure from the fact that they harmed their children. It is so fucked up.

thepariscrimefiles · 21/02/2025 08:56

NiftyKoala · 20/02/2025 21:30

Growing up, I'm 50 there was a boy we nicknamed Jimmy why'd you do that because his mother used to say that oh 100 times a day. Died in prison. NO I AM NOT SAYING THATS WHAT HAPPENS TO EVERY CHILD WHO ISNT PARENTED. But it did to Jimmy why'd you do that.

Children who are physically punished by their parents are more likely to display aggressive and anti-social behaviours. Therefore, it is counter-productive as well as morally wrong.

thepariscrimefiles · 21/02/2025 08:47

needapokerface · 20/02/2025 16:19

Okay so before everyone derails the post, this was not abuse, it may be considered abuse now by the flaky way in which we parent, as in we have no control over our children, the teachers have no control of the children and the police have no control over children.

When this happened it was over 30 odd years ago, this is not an excuse and I will not be apologising for teaching my daughter a valuable lesson.

As the saying goes opinions are like arse holes and everyone has one.

You don't have to like or agree with what I did, but at the time it was the correct thing to do for me.

I don't think that biting small children was ever acceptable, even 30 years ago. It takes some special kind of person to take a toddler's little arm and bite hard enough to cause pain to 'teach them a lesson'.

If this sort of behaviour was acceptable and effective, why isn't this technique used by adults on other adults that they have authority over? Would a manager biting a member of their staff who made a mistake be OK? If not, why not, if physical punishments are acceptable to use on small children, why not use them on adults?

SouthLondonMum22 · 20/02/2025 23:42

Hallebere · 20/02/2025 23:12

I don't condone the adults behaviour at all. Just because it's a knee jerk reaction doesn't mean it's right. However, a 4 year old biting is not on at all and I would be fuming if another 4 year old bit my child.

Of course a 4 year old biting is wrong, no one is going to disagree with that.

I'd be upset if another child bit my child but children will grow and learn, I'd be beyond furious if an adult bit my child.

NiftyKoala · 20/02/2025 23:21

Littleblackcatsmum · 20/02/2025 21:40

Did Jimmy or his parents have any other issues?

Would he not have been in prison if someone had bitten him?

Please reread his mother always said Jimmy...I also bolded that I was not saying that was why Jimmy died in prison....

Snugglemonkey · 20/02/2025 23:17

IfItWasUpToMeIWould · 20/02/2025 17:51

You speak utter rubbish, some kids are ferrel because their parents are either too busy, too tired or can’t be bothered to teach them right from wrong.
If our kids hurt each other they got back what they gave out from me. Guess what, we have an excellent loving well balanced loving relationship with our adult DD and DS, and they are successful in every possible way.
I saw a child in Sainsbury’s a while back, about 4 yrs old, dragging stuff off the shelves and throwing it on the floor, the mother did nothing. If that’s today’s parenting then something has gone seriously wrong!

They got back what they gave out? That is not parenting, it's exacting revenge on someone weaker. It teaches that it is ok to abuse someone weaker. I think the previous posters opinion was spot on.

ImTheOnlyUpsyOne · 20/02/2025 23:16

Snugglemonkey · 20/02/2025 22:54

Lots of other consequences would probably also curb the behaviour, but also fall into the abusive category. It is why people do not hit children, burn them, cut them etc. Because harming children is NEVER a hey ho matter!

Yes...that's why A was my first question.
I know OP isn't here to tell what she IS doing to curb the behaviour and that it isn't the point of this post.

But so many users having chimed in to say they had to use this to deter their own children from biting, it's made me curious to hear what the other consequences for a 4 year old to stop biting are. Because 4 year old is too old to be biting, IMO (SEN aside)

Hallebere · 20/02/2025 23:12

SouthLondonMum22 · 20/02/2025 19:46

So it's ok for an adult to have a knee jerk reaction but not a 4 year old?

You're expecting more from the 4 year old than you are the adult. If an adult can't possibly control themselves with knee jerk reactions, how can a 4 year old be expected to?

I don't condone the adults behaviour at all. Just because it's a knee jerk reaction doesn't mean it's right. However, a 4 year old biting is not on at all and I would be fuming if another 4 year old bit my child.

Snugglemonkey · 20/02/2025 22:54

ImTheOnlyUpsyOne · 20/02/2025 17:22

I too am interested to know...
A) what OPs method of stopping her child from biting is and...
B) Since this incident, has child bitten again?

It may be missing the point but I do think if it curbs the behaviour and child doesn't do it again...hey ho.

Also, I do believe if this is a relative that loves your child and you have trusted up till this point, having a conversation to say please don't do that again, should be enough.

I also think having 1 awkward conversation with a family member is a lot better than having a bunch of nursery or school mums angry with you because your child thinks it OK to bite....

All of the people screaming abuse on here would be livid if their Child was bitten by another and the other parent was apologetic but had nothing in place to stop the behaviour.

Lots of other consequences would probably also curb the behaviour, but also fall into the abusive category. It is why people do not hit children, burn them, cut them etc. Because harming children is NEVER a hey ho matter!

IfItWasUpToMeIWould · 20/02/2025 22:54

Littleblackcatsmum · 20/02/2025 21:24

I'm the product of good parenting. I don't look back at everything my parents did, particularly my more strict dad, and say yes they were 100 percent right. Just because your kids are doing well and love you (and probably forgive your more daft moments) doesn't mean everything you did will work for all parents and all kids.

Yes that’s true, I totally accept your response, and thank you. I’m sure as parents we made mistakes.
I think I’m just trying to say our kids have grown up into well adjusted happy adults without issues, and they are definitely not scared of me as someone suggested, I’m struggling to understand why someone said that, it was cruel. Our DC’s understood right from wrong, and they had nothing to be scared of as kids and don’t as adults, we are a ‘normal’ loving relaxed family.

SouthLondonMum22 · 20/02/2025 22:45

Snugglemonkey · 20/02/2025 22:43

You would support a relative abusing your child? I would ring the police.

I'd involve the police too.

suburburban · 20/02/2025 22:44

Haven't they got enough to do

Snugglemonkey · 20/02/2025 22:43

ClockingOffers · 20/02/2025 16:46

Presumably, you were being ineffective in stopping your child biting others and perhaps other annoying behaviours?

If that’s the case, then I’d support the grandparent. Presumably, they didn’t draw blood but just gave the child pause for thought?

Ineffective parenting is the bane of everyone’s lives at the moment.

You would support a relative abusing your child? I would ring the police.

suburburban · 20/02/2025 22:41

@Snugglemonkey

It's totally disproportionate and I think there is nothing wrong with this approach.