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To leave a four year old downstairs alone for about an hour?

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downthesteps · 20/02/2025 07:04

We have recently changed bedtime routine. DS is 4 and has eczema and it’s been recommended we limit baths. I also have a toddler and for both of them since birth pretty much the routine has been bath, teeth, books and bed. Because DS isn’t now joining in the bath routine he’s watching TV downstairs on his own. I feel awful and I asked him last night if he’d like to watch my iPad upstairs instead but he said no … Should I put my foot down?

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Shinycake · 02/03/2025 10:50

downthesteps · 20/02/2025 07:04

We have recently changed bedtime routine. DS is 4 and has eczema and it’s been recommended we limit baths. I also have a toddler and for both of them since birth pretty much the routine has been bath, teeth, books and bed. Because DS isn’t now joining in the bath routine he’s watching TV downstairs on his own. I feel awful and I asked him last night if he’d like to watch my iPad upstairs instead but he said no … Should I put my foot down?

When I was 4 I was in charge of measuring (was a mix of cheese and raisins, so needed measuring, not just a packet of something) and handing out snacks in nursery to the other kids when they’d been told to queue up. Granted an adult was watching, but never had to intervene. So I’d have been perfectly fine on my own for an hour - and I probably was at some times at home, don’t remember

MumtoSENprincess · 02/03/2025 10:47

What is your worry about leaving your son alone while you bath your daughter? If it is about him getting into things, you can take sensible precautions, like locking the front door or making sure anything harmful is out of sight and out of reach. If you are worried about him being alone, actually, getting used to your own company and entertaining yourself are useful life skills. He is growing up and may appreciate a bit of time away from his little sister, especially if it means he can choose what to watch on the TV. As a caring parent, you will have one ear open for him anyway, and if you are worried, it's no big deal to pop downstairs and check that all is OK. If it works for your family circumstances, then go for it.

Sapphireblueeyes · 02/03/2025 01:06

Oh dear OP ask a stupid question.

Lifelemonz · 02/03/2025 00:07

Overthebow · 20/02/2025 07:15

He’ll likely be fine and I leave my 4 year old downstairs, but an hour is a long time and I definitely wouldn’t do it every day. Does it really take and hour to do bath and bed for one child? I’d speed up that process if you’re putting them to bed one after the other, we also have a one year old and it takes around 39 minutes for bedtime here.

Good for you that your child's bedtime is shorter - I'm sure the OP loves to read this piece of mum shaming re bedtime length, well done you.

OP, I have a toddler too & a slightly older child & we do the same & that too takes an hour, totally normal from our perspective. Although I too have always felt guilty about leaving son downstairs but it's the only way & I think he enjoys the peace.

DevonMum123 · 01/03/2025 22:08

Wow I'm surprised at the majority of comments. I would not leave 4 year old alone for an hour. Accidents happen, hour is very long time. I would have him join the routine, my 4 year old went to bed at 7pm, so surely can't be that much later than toddler?

Yellowbananasarebetterthangreen · 01/03/2025 20:46

I would restrict the number of baths for your DD as well. So instead of every night for her and your 4yo sitting on his own they both have a bath twice a week (or whatever recommended by the specialist). I dont think daily baths are helpful or necessary for anyone really.

Bloke58 · 01/03/2025 20:42

What does the health visitor suggest?

Mush62 · 01/03/2025 19:46

Yes you bloody should, who's the adult in the house, you or the 4 year old???

IamMoodyBlue · 01/03/2025 18:31

A lot of interesting advice and ideas posted here for you to consider.
But really, there is no right or wrong answer. Try not to get too anxious about it as this will surely be picked up.

Leaving a 4 yr old downstairs is perfectly OK, no more risky than leaving them out of sight in the next room. Accidents can still happen when you're right there! So don't feel guilty about not being able to be in two places at once.
It just comes down to what works best for you. And what ever you decide, it's not set in stone. If you change your mind, if you feel uncomfortable with how you're doing things, you can always change it.
Best wishes to you.

Finallybackinbootcuts · 25/02/2025 20:30

GravyBoatWars · 25/02/2025 20:22

Mind you some of the posters probably expect... the wardrobe to be nailed to the wall or something

Ok I'm usually one of the least protective parents in the room but we do in fact anchor wardrobes and shelving to walls with young children in the house. That's a pretty low-level safety measure for the current century even if it wasn't as standard when I was young.

This was in 1982 😂

Genuinely had no idea wall anchoring was a thing! Well I’m not going to say it’s a bad idea 😂

GravyBoatWars · 25/02/2025 20:22

Mind you some of the posters probably expect... the wardrobe to be nailed to the wall or something

Ok I'm usually one of the least protective parents in the room but we do in fact anchor wardrobes and shelving to walls with young children in the house. That's a pretty low-level safety measure for the current century even if it wasn't as standard when I was young.

Finallybackinbootcuts · 25/02/2025 18:05

Mind you some of the posters probably expect a 4 year old to have a better grasp of basic physics (it has improved since then) or the wardrobe to be nailed to the wall or something 😂

Finallybackinbootcuts · 25/02/2025 18:00

Not sure. I mean it’ll probably be fine but it doesn’t take much for a child that young to get into fixes.

When I was four I decided to jump from my bed into an open drawer in the wardrobe by the bed and back again. This didn’t quite work out but fortunately the wardrobe landed on the bed not me.

downthesteps · 25/02/2025 17:33

BuildbyNumbere · 25/02/2025 17:28

Another mumsnet poster that asks for peoples opinions and then gets argumentative or defensive when they are different from hers. Why do they do it?!?!

Who, me? I don’t think I’ve been argumentative but sorry if you feel that way! I don’t think saying how long it takes is being especially argumentative though.

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BuildbyNumbere · 25/02/2025 17:28

Another mumsnet poster that asks for peoples opinions and then gets argumentative or defensive when they are different from hers. Why do they do it?!?!

ERthree · 25/02/2025 17:26

No wonder we have children riddled with anxiety, it's down to neurotic parents that are so bloody scared to leave a 4 year old in another room for a while. Do all these neurotic parents sleep outside their children's bedrooms on the hall way floor or are they brave enough to leave their child in a room for a whole night to sleep alone?

downthesteps · 25/02/2025 15:58

BuildbyNumbere · 25/02/2025 15:02

For an hour?? 🤣🤦🏻‍♀️

… yes?

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BuildbyNumbere · 25/02/2025 15:02

downthesteps · 20/02/2025 07:14

Because I have a child in the bath or that I’m trying to get to sleep.

For an hour?? 🤣🤦🏻‍♀️

Goodtogossip · 25/02/2025 14:31

It's absolutely fine leaving him downstairs as long as he's sitting watching TV & not running riot. Also it's best not to let little ones eat unsupervised just to be on the safe side. I know 4 is ok eating most foods without choking but just to be extra careful don't leave him with anything he could choke on.

JRM17 · 24/02/2025 23:49

Surely DS still joins in with Teeth, Books, Bed. So why is he left so long. 5 mins to run a bath, 10mins in the bath, 5 mins to get dry/dressed. 20min max.

Shmee1988 · 24/02/2025 21:38

downthesteps · 24/02/2025 21:18

Firstly, because together they get really silly. Squabbling over books and then both trying to turn the page or lift the flap on the lift the flap books DD likes and arguing over who sits on my lap and elbowing one another and tears … It isn’t how I envisioned story time with my darling children to be sure!

And then because it means both children get one to one time for books.

But of course if he wanted to join in for it I wouldn’t say no, he just seems happy enough with Spidey or Peppa or something.

Then if it suits you and your kids you've nothing to worry about. No need to feel guilty if he's safe and happy

downthesteps · 24/02/2025 21:18

Shmee1988 · 24/02/2025 20:46

Why cant your 4 yo join you both for teeth and story time?

Firstly, because together they get really silly. Squabbling over books and then both trying to turn the page or lift the flap on the lift the flap books DD likes and arguing over who sits on my lap and elbowing one another and tears … It isn’t how I envisioned story time with my darling children to be sure!

And then because it means both children get one to one time for books.

But of course if he wanted to join in for it I wouldn’t say no, he just seems happy enough with Spidey or Peppa or something.

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GreenFields07 · 24/02/2025 21:00

Yourethebeerthief · 24/02/2025 20:22

People can't imagine lives that aren't their own. So if their child is in nursery for a couple of days and the rest of the week doesn't do much outdoor activity or get dirty, they can't imagine any other way. So it's "bad for their skin", "a waste of water", and "they don't really need it"

As though all children are the same. Well, of course if your child mostly stays at home they're not going to get very dirty.

If you're talking about me here then thats absolute crap. First of all, you're being just as argumentative as I was so OP was talking about you as well as me.
Second of all, I didnt say my kids only spend 2 days at nursery then the rest of the time are sat indoors. You took that one all on your own. My kids spend plenty of time outdoors they just dont get caked in mud or need a bath every night.
And lastly, I have absolutely no problem with imagining other peoples lives to be different to my own, I accept that everyone is different as I said people are welcome to bath their kids every night if they wish to do that.
You're arguing with me for the sake of arguing. I said kids dont need a bath every night in my opinion, which you actually agreed with, and also said yours dont get bathed every night, but have continued to argue with me for some unknown reason. Then try to dig me out for apparently not being able to imagine others lives and kids are different which is complete nonsense because you know nothing about me or how I think. Bore off

Shmee1988 · 24/02/2025 20:46

downthesteps · 20/02/2025 07:10

Thanks. It just feels like a long time and it’s dark and we’re remote so I was feeling really guilty.

Dd having a bath, getting out of the bath, nappy and pyjamas, teeth, reading books, into sleeping bag and into cot takes around an hour.

Why cant your 4 yo join you both for teeth and story time?

Yourethebeerthief · 24/02/2025 20:27

@GreenFields07

My kids get a lot of time outdoors too but I still wouldnt bath them everyday. Covered in mud fine, but going to the park, for walks, on a bike ride etc not really necessary in my opinion. They can have a quick wash or wipe down with a flannel but really dont see the need for a full on bath. If people want to do that then fine thats their perogative but I wont be doing that with mine.

Yes, it's obviously not necessary for your children. That's fine.