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Nursery staffs older children playing with my 14 month old

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CalmPanda · 19/02/2025 21:56

My daughters (14m) been going to a nursery full time for a few months now. She's come on leaps and bounds and really enjoys it there. There's just one thing that's really bugging me and I'm not sure whether I'm worried for nothing.

All the nursery staff have children that either go to the nursery or the primary school next door. For weeks now the nursery staff have been telling us 'funny stories' of how obsessed one of the workers sons is with our daughter. How much he loves playing with her and comes into the baby room to feed her her breakfast before he goes to school. He's 7. His mum works in the room so watches all the time, but it just feels weird that a significantly older child gets to be around my daughter and I have no idea who it is, what he's like and what they do together.

All the staff paint a picture that it's so funny/cute and that my daughter loves it. But I can't help but feel like this shouldn't be something happening at a private nursery. AIBU?

OP posts:
EmeraldShamrock000 · 20/02/2025 09:44

Then I guess if the OP is that uncomfortable about it they need to find another nursery. She should also report them for breaking the rules, the rules enforced to ensure the age appropriate safety of all children attending, they cannot bend safeguarding rules.

Moonnstars · 20/02/2025 09:39

EmeraldShamrock000 · 20/02/2025 09:37

I work in a school but still have to pay when my children go to breakfast or after-school club.
Paying or not, babies, toddlers and breakfast club children are separated.

Then I guess if the OP is that uncomfortable about it they need to find another nursery.

Their OP explains why the staff would have these older children there, and I agree with the above post that even if the staff aren't paying, it is perhaps a perk of the job and ensured a happy and consistent workforce.

BigSilly · 20/02/2025 09:39

A childminder would look after them all together!

BigSilly · 20/02/2025 09:38

"and I'm assuming the staff's primary age children are not included in the nursery numbers"
Well that's a big assumption!

EmeraldShamrock000 · 20/02/2025 09:37

I work in a school but still have to pay when my children go to breakfast or after-school club.
Paying or not, babies, toddlers and breakfast club children are separated.

MoreDangerousThanAWomanScorned · 20/02/2025 09:36

Moonnstars · 20/02/2025 09:29

How do we know they don't pay something towards having their child there?
I work in a school but still have to pay when my children go to breakfast or after-school club.

Also if it is a free perk for the staff it probably means that the nursery avoids the high turnover and constant recruitment that costs many nurseries a lot of money. In any case, if this is part of their model then OP's choice is to accept that or move to another nursery. There seems to be a real overestimate from some on this thread of the extent to which a parent can just demand a nursery change what they're doing. Nurseries normally have long waiting lists, especially for the younger ages. They aren't going to change their staff's working and childcare arrangements because OP feels funny about it.

Moonnstars · 20/02/2025 09:29

Washinghanginginthesun · 20/02/2025 08:01

It sounds reasonable that the staff have children with them until the school next door opens and I imagine this is included in their ratios.

So you are saying OP is paying for the additional staff required to maintain ratios? Paying towards this child’s wrap around care as the nursery are having to operate with spaces or additional members of staff to look after this seven year old?

Edited

How do we know they don't pay something towards having their child there?
I work in a school but still have to pay when my children go to breakfast or after-school club.

charmanderflame · 20/02/2025 09:25

Washinghanginginthesun · 20/02/2025 08:09

There is a big difference between a five year old and an eleven year old interacting in the school playground and a seven year old taking care of physical needs (feeding) a fourteen month old.

I said in my post I don't think he should be feeding her.

EmeraldShamrock000 · 20/02/2025 09:16

According to the staff he is cute and funny and likes your baby, as many older children do.
Well they aren't going to say, colleagues child is a brat, even if he was.
He should be told NO.

pelargoniums · 20/02/2025 09:14

Our wonderful, brilliant nursery – I will genuinely weep when DS graduates – allows staff children in like this and it’s great: makes life miles easier for staff, so they can have their kids in with them during half term for instance rather than booking that time off. So my kids have their regular key workers not substitutes. Lots of familiar faces and when my DC started school they recognised nursery workers’ children from seeing them at nursery. The nursery is really embedded in the community, not just a money/childcare exchange – staff stop in the street or park to ask after graduated DC, they welcome back older DC accompanying their parents in picking up younger siblings and will let them use the loo or have a drink of water or offer leftover snacks from nursery tea – it’s really give and take, makes for a lovely atmosphere, and it has never occurred to me for an instant that it should be anything other than this.

How lucky your baby is to have a supervised older child play with her!

EmeraldShamrock000 · 20/02/2025 09:13

OP hasn’t met the 7 year old.

Not every child under the age of 8 is an angel.

Some are sly, some are aggressive, some are obsessive, it shouldn't be happening, the age ratio is there for a reason.

Breakfast club children should never mix with woddler / toddler / or preschool children in a professional childcare environment.

littleluncheon · 20/02/2025 09:05

ThejoyofNC · 20/02/2025 08:42

Except that someone is a child. She (or the funding) doesn't pay for 1:1 playtime with a 7 year old.

She gets an additional freebie. Lucky her.

Newbie8918 · 20/02/2025 09:02

Such a shame that you feel like this. What has happened to the world when people are uncomfortable and suspicious of a 7yo showing a caring side?

GhoulWithADragonTattoo · 20/02/2025 09:00

Is the 7 year there officially eg breakfast club before school / holiday club? I'd be grateful worried about ratios if not.

Longma · 20/02/2025 08:59

Surely PPs would feel differently if a surgeon brought their 7 year old to work and let them have a root around their innards? I mean, he's just a little boy who loves playing with scalpels?

In what way are the two scenarios even vaguely similar?!

Longma · 20/02/2025 08:56

I have no idea who it is,

He is the nursery workers 7 year old child.

what he's like

According to the staff he is cute and funny and likes your baby, as many older children do.

and what they do together.

They play and he helps with her breakfast

You say that he is supervised throughout the time.

What actual concerns do you have?

OCDmama · 20/02/2025 08:48

This would bother me too. This isn't a childminding setting where you expect a range of ages and the childminders own children to be involved. It's a nursery with rooms dedicated to defined ages.

You didn't sign up for this.

ThejoyofNC · 20/02/2025 08:42

littleluncheon · 20/02/2025 08:39

The short time he's playing with her before school will be more attention for her, not less. The rest of the day she'll be getting at best 1/3 of an adults attention. Someone talking and playing with her 1:1 is probably the best part of the baby's day.

Except that someone is a child. She (or the funding) doesn't pay for 1:1 playtime with a 7 year old.

littleluncheon · 20/02/2025 08:39

The short time he's playing with her before school will be more attention for her, not less. The rest of the day she'll be getting at best 1/3 of an adults attention. Someone talking and playing with her 1:1 is probably the best part of the baby's day.

Whatthefuck3456 · 20/02/2025 08:21

I would be just as concerned as you are OP.

Washinghanginginthesun · 20/02/2025 08:09

charmanderflame · 20/02/2025 08:05

I don't think he should really be feeding her (the staff should do that) but as for being around and playing with her, honestly, what is the actual problem? When she goes to school there will be older children around her all the time that she will interact with and you won't have a clue what goes on between them.

There is a big difference between a five year old and an eleven year old interacting in the school playground and a seven year old taking care of physical needs (feeding) a fourteen month old.

ThejoyofNC · 20/02/2025 08:06

To be honest yes it's cute and funny a couple of times but when you're presumably paying through the nose for your child to attend nursery then I wouldn't expect this to continue.

charmanderflame · 20/02/2025 08:05

I don't think he should really be feeding her (the staff should do that) but as for being around and playing with her, honestly, what is the actual problem? When she goes to school there will be older children around her all the time that she will interact with and you won't have a clue what goes on between them.

bluebalou · 20/02/2025 08:03

I'd be ok with him being there, but feeding your baby, no I wouldn't , don't think a child of 7 should be feeding a baby that is an adults job, which is what your paying for.

Washinghanginginthesun · 20/02/2025 08:01

It sounds reasonable that the staff have children with them until the school next door opens and I imagine this is included in their ratios.

So you are saying OP is paying for the additional staff required to maintain ratios? Paying towards this child’s wrap around care as the nursery are having to operate with spaces or additional members of staff to look after this seven year old?