How Can The World Stand By While Trump Sucks Up To Putin?

Elections weren’t necessary in the Uk during WW2 because we had a national government that was made up of representatives of all parties.

"Churchill should have held elections. So should Zelensky. Why is this difficult?"

Yes over the last few years when people were discussing Churchill legacy and questionable views through a modern lens much discussion must have taken place over the injustice of his dictatorial refusal to hold elections during total war.

Ot more likely this is revisionism to justify trump's likely capitulation to russian demands.

That would imply integrity not MAGA

Ha, no. Not only are you dealing with entirely different administrations, but it’s easy to make assurances to get your way, then renege later when you no longer consider it in your interests to follow through.

See also the Anglo-Polish Alliance, specifically when help was requested when the Soviet Union invaded.

@Horriblevirusagain
Ooohhh you are so funny.
Is your tongue firmly in your cheek?
LOL

I've heard it all now

Gonzalo Lira. A sex tourist who died due to his lifestyle choices

Like fuck was he a journalist.

@LifeExperience Thanks for that. Now we see you

Ukraine was given assurances that its borders would be protected by US, U.K. and Russia, when it gave up its nuclear weapons - Russia obviously ignored this! - but this surely is a good reason for the US to be involved, not just as (former) allies of Europe.

Yawn.

Is anyone else thinking Stephen King?

It's an odd name but isn't the wording Israel use for their defence system

ExpensiveBiscuits · Today 13:41

I think he's calling Zelensky a dictator because Zelensky has cancelled elections, which is the type of things dictators tend to do.

He hasn't cancelled them, he's followed the Ukrainian Constitution and has postponed them, during a period of martial law. All Ukrainian parties have agreed that this is the correct course of action.

Several polls-not all- are showing that his popularity has fallen, so a cynical person might not marvel at the fact that the elections are cancelled.

No, that's incorrect and more Trumpite lies. He's currently at 57% approval, 5% higher than last year, in fact. Most of the population also understand and agree with the enytirely legal, constitutionally mandated election suspension.

My OH is from a former Soviet Republic and we are hosting our third Ukrainian family.

The drop in approval from the early part of the war is because Ukraine is still grinding away, is still being bombed and high casualty rates.

No, I have a relevant age daughter in the US whom I’m terrified about. There were rumours of conscription before both Gulf wars. It didn’t happen. It’s not going to happen. This is not Russia.

One of those rare occasions when I wish I could like a post more than once. Absolutely.

Is anyone else thinking Stephen King?

Trump is a threat to the USA itself (inciting insurrection doesn't exactly scream a rational or safe leader to me). In addition, his global ignorance, failure to respect the rule of law, outrageous egomanical behaviour and kowtowing to the likes of Putin makes him the single biggest threat to the Allies other than Putin himself. In fact he's worse, because I don't believe Putin is actually crazy.

As to your belief Putin won't attack a NATO country...do you actually know which countries are NATO members? Because several countries that, within living history, were also invaded and illegally annexed by Russia into the former USSR are now NATO members. He has always wanted us back and threats, and physical and cyber attacks have been happening regularly for years. It is a very tenuous thread stopping Putin invading them again. (Particularly now the West has shown how truly weak it is in response to his war in Ukraine.) And if Ukraine falls, it will NOT just be Ukraine. It will be Poland, the Baltics, the Nordics. And don't forget Putin's charming allies, like North Korea and Saudi Arabia, who may also wish to wage their own wars (trade or otherwise) in future which, being such a good friend, he would doubtless support. Can you not see the long-term domino effect of Putin winning in Ukraine? Maybe Putin's land grab would stop with half of Europe, but what will the impact on trade, the global economy and natural resources be? Can you see how THAT will impact the UK?

The dome! 😂

Bet all the Trumpist loons would have been up in arms if Biden had sided with the Russians, wouldn't you?

Or have to pretend we support all their other batshit ideas
Quite liberating actually

Please do complete your dome. And complete your total inward looking world

At least we won’t have to follow them into them any more like Iraq and Afghanistan.

The Missile Defense Agency has been working on the missile problem for decades. We already have NORAD, just need to complete the dome. I suggest Europe get together and do the same.

www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/01/the-iron-dome-for-america/

Oh dear. We have relatives in the States who are cringing at this kind of grandiose delusion. Stop embarrassing your country.

It's not the US military that has failed, it is the US politicians. But that has ended now.

Yeah America has done so very well in its wars hasn't it

The one thing I agree on is that we should be spending more on defense. (With the caveat that much of the US spend is useless and could be taken out by long range missiles nowadays, and much of the money spent boosted their economy and /or was getting rid of older equipment etc)

It's blatantly obvious, not just from this poster, but from the urangutang's government that they don't want allies in trade, defense or anything. Backing off respectively would be preferable but that doesn't go with the arrogant attitude, all respect has gone
So we need to walk/ run away, regroup with genuine allies and count US as an enemy. Pity, I have enjoyed holidays there.
But they don't see how it will all implode. Their problem