I never thought I'd see the US aligning with Russia

That's your take on this?

Well maybe Britain needs to step up and innovate and make some stuff worth watching and/or buying? Your choices as a consumer are on you.

And your grammar's not amazing, by the way. Which I wouldn't ordinarily comment on, but since you felt the need to shit on American's usage...

Americans aren't a lump sum entity, by the way. Just as people in the UK are not. 🙄

Impeachment seems like the obvious option but I'm not sure how feasible that is currently.

Yes, they thought he wouldn't hurt them. He spouted his Populist policies and they voted without thinking them through. Like the UK and Brexit. Also I don't think they realised how hastily, nastily and ill-thought out Trump's proposals would be. I doubt anyone thought he'd endanger national security. Or that government contracts with them would be nulled with immediate effect..

@HRTQueen they could impeach him.

Brexit was the first step towards this. Divide and conquer. Steve Bannon and others have been behind this and Trump is the thick goon who will be the face of it all.

That's a really interesting point actually. Russia has always relied on a strategy of attrition - just keep on throwing young brutalised conscripts at the enemy in sufficient numbers that the enemy can't keep up. In WWII for example there were reports from the Nazi forces that their attempts to advance were compromised by the mounds of Russian dead. USSR losses in that war were catastrophic for entire regions.

A country as big as Russia can do this for a long time but it has led to actual demographic alteration - as well as the fact Russian birthrates are plummeting, the population and in particular men are pretty unhealthy with a low lifespan. After several generations of losing lots of men to conflict there is a big imbalance now. Not enough to stop them entirely but it is a salutary reminder of the wide reaching consequences for the nation itself.

I think you are forgetting how difficult it is to remove a sitting president have you forgotten about Biden he literally had to be dragged out

Its not like the UK system where party democracy really does work when there is a PM in power that that party has turned against

Regretful Trump voters can quite frankly fuck off.

I don't think they are this, more likely non voters protesting.

Regretful Trump voters can quite frankly fuck off. People are free to fuck up their own lives but I draw the line at actively trying to harm others, and this is what they voted for.

It had nothing to do with the price of eggs and everything to do with many people believing Trump only meant to harm other people. But they’re going to find out they are also other people.

He and the people around him were very clear what their plans were, but having a half Indian, half black woman President was the worse choice apparently.

They can all enjoy working with no rights in Tesla or Amazon factory until they’re worn out. Give it 2 years and people in red states will be trying to get across the border into Mexico illegally.

And interestingly many immigrants voted for Trump

The predictions were incorrect

Kind of. Russia never declared war. They announced an escalation of hostilities. There isn't a requirement to declare war though. There's a convention to announce intention and reason, which they did. They sailed close to the wind though - the timing meant it was already a done deal, the justification was spurious and obscured a lot of the motivation.

He probably wants to offer him a Cabinet position.

This is only tangentially relative, but the figures I heard the other day about how many Russian soldiers they are losing every day in the conflict blew my mind. 1200* people a day on average - That's utterly mind blowi ng to me!

*estimates vary wildly, but all are grim

The experts on the radio show I was listening to last week (discussing this) seemed to be of the opinion that Russia can afford to keep losing men at this rate because of how vast it is. National service, compulsory call ups etc are feeding the war machine nicely. Ukraine, sadly, cannot continue to sustain their losses, even though they are much lower, because they can't replace the fighting soldiers at the rate they are dying.

I am not surprised at Trump dictators admire dictators they will both know how to dance around each another, one is certainly more intelligent and the other just thinks he is and

And the feeling towards Russia and being suspicions of Russia in the US isn't prevalent like it once was

I think people mistakenly think that the world dislikes Trump and are concerned about the Ukraine and the threat of Russia to Europe

Average American doesn't care much and Ukraine is nothing to many people

Ukraine shall end up being divided things will settle for a while then likely to start again

This, and Russia needs money.

They both hate the EU too, so that's them stuffed for good. Once Putin gets some more Putin friendly governments and political parties in the EU then the whole thing is screwed.

It's pretty clear to me that Trump sees himself and Putin as two tough no-nonsense guys who can work together. While Putin is laughing his arse off at having helped elect such an easily manipulative simpleton, twice, with nothing fancier than bot farms. Who will destroy America for him, while handing him the keys to being a real threat to Europe again.

I don't think Trump has made any deals, or is being blackmailed or anything. He's just too fucking stupid to recognise he is being played and it makes him feel important to have feel like he, Donald J Trump, has tamed the Russian bear that was the boogeyman of his childhood, through his clever 'deal making'.

But it seems they do have special rights. I just read that they told Romania to give Andrew Tate and his brother their passports back and release them. These are rapists.

I very much agree with you. The only point I was making was that trump's narrative isn't a newly thought up one.

There's a law to declaring war and Russia have not followed it. 'Feeling threatened' doesn't provide jus ad bellum and it's incorrect to say that Ukraine's actions provide any kind of justification.

In all fairness this narrative was around since the beginning of the war. It just wasn't the widely reported one. Plus there's a long standing history of conflict in the region that most of us don't really know or understand.

Much though I absolutely do NOT support Russia's invasion of Ukraine, I can see that from their point of view Ukraine joining EU and NATO was something that felt like a threat to Russia.

Can’t disagree with you. It’s a mess that’s for sure!

Not surprising in the least bit. Both leaders want a weak NATO and EU - having closer ties with Putin and Russia will shift power dynamics globally. They’re both nationalist - so their political ideology are aligned. They are both dictators in my opinion - Putin with a D and Trump for now with a d. They undermine democratic institutions and want to suppress any opposition.

I said on one of the other threads that Russia's investment in the US elections has worked well for them. Trump is nothing but a puppet for Putin. They already succeeded in destabilising the EU with their input into the whole Brexit saga, and now this. All those people that support Farage and Reform should take note.

If I lived in any of those old Eastern bloc countries bordering Russia, I would be feeling distinctly uneasy watching recent events unfolding.

Not as big a 'win' as Putin got when he realised how malleable Trump was and started to use him.

And everyone who voted for Trump is now complicit in the world damage done, including to the former reputation of the US.

We won a hell of a lot more seats that anyone would have thought. He won more swing states than anyone could have imagined so it was a big win whether you agree or not.

@Clearinguptheclutter is likely closer on this

is it though? my impression is that he's doing exactly what he said he would.I think the MAGA crowd is delighted.