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Just been sacked for the first time ever after a funeral

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PrueD · 19/02/2025 09:33

On Monday I was at a funeral and yesterday I was off on compassionate leave. When I returned today the director sacked me. Been there 9 months.

Before now, I hadn’t been made aware of any issues in my one to ones, the last one being a week and a half ago. I had told my manager a month ago about my terminally ill relative. It was harder to work at my usual capacity at this time but I was still doing a good job on important projects. The main problem I had was they kept piling on more work on top of existing work.

I said I would’ve liked the chance to address any issues and they said they don’t have capacity to support and that’s it. I’m in shock, having an awful week as it is.

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Fencehedge · 19/02/2025 10:54

My current job accepted the PAYE statement from Gov.uk showing that I had indeed worked at a former location I wasn't able to get a reference from (because they're an ineffectual shower of shits). I then used a personal reference as well, for my good character.

luckylavender · 19/02/2025 10:54

Foundanotherwrinkle · 19/02/2025 09:39

I think they need to give you warnings before going straight in to sack you unless it was for something really serious like you stabbed someone or stole all the money out the safe. Could be wrong but that's what we had to do

Not when it's not 2 years service.

LogicVoid · 19/02/2025 10:52

PrueD · 19/02/2025 10:42

It’s a thorough review I wasn’t privy to. It was never raised in one to ones or in writing.

if you can dismissed like this without a fair process it doesn’t seem correct at all.

Then it might be prudent to make a Subject Access Request:
https://ico.org.uk/for-the-public/getting-copies-of-your-information-subject-access-request/

Spirallingdownwards · 19/02/2025 10:49

Daisyvodka · 19/02/2025 09:37

Have a read of the ACAS Unfair dismissal page and see what you think.
Did they document concerns with your performance in writing?

She hasn't been there for 2 years. They can dismiss her without reason and it still not be unfair.

Hibernating80 · 19/02/2025 10:49

It's then not you.

It's probably a finance issue and nothing to do with your performance. That's probably an excuse.

People won't judge you they will judge them. Focus on grieving if you can. You will find another job, a much better one.

Commonsense22 · 19/02/2025 10:49

GiveMeSpanakopita · 19/02/2025 09:55

When I've let someone go with the words 'it's not working out', what I mean is that they're just not the right fit for my company. Sometimes clients don't like them, sometimes they're a poor fit with the rest of my team, or their ways of working aren't the ones I want to see in my company. It's not personal, they're just not right for me.

Talk it on the chin and find something better, tbh if you found the workload unreasonable it might not be a great place fr you anyway. You will find somewhere better!!

This exactly. It's probably not performance related but I am sorry you’re going through this.

fiorentina · 19/02/2025 10:49

I’m very sorry for your loss.

I think being very pragmatic that you should park the issues with being let go and just focus on getting a new role. Personally I’d develop a “I’ll show them/fuck them” attitude, and go all out, updating your LinkedIn profile, CV etc, reaching out to industry contacts and seeking a new (better!) role for a business who values you. In interviews I’d simply say the role wasn’t the right fit for you or similar, be professional, everyone is allowed mistakes and look forward. I absolutely appreciate this week you may not feel like doing this, but maybe it can be a positive distraction.
Don’t let it diminish your confidence, if appropriate maybe do some online CPD so you feel up to date and confident for new roles. Good luck.

Caterina99 · 19/02/2025 10:47

It’s probably not personal at all Op. although it’s a horrible thing to do to you.

Its most likely the company is not doing great financially, will be even more so from April if they have a lot of employees, and you were an easy target to get rid of without you having too many rights to redundancy etc.

if it’s project based, then even more so a reason to let you go once the project is finished.

Fingers crossed for you for the future!

Loopytiles · 19/02/2025 10:45

It’s poor practice, but you have no recourse. Some ruthless companies even do it deliberately to aid recruitment, since more people apply for ‘permanent’ roles than short ones.

Holdonforsummer · 19/02/2025 10:44

Employer sounds awful, you might have had a lucky escape. Sorry it happened to you and sorry about your gran too. Good luck finding a new job.

Fairyliz · 19/02/2025 10:42

There’s going to be a lot more of these dismals in the next few weeks. Employers costs are going up and it’s easier to get rid of people like the op rather than people who have been there years and will have rights and redundancy pay.
Sorry op it’s probably nothing whatsoever to do with your performance.

AAAwantto · 19/02/2025 10:42

PrueD · 19/02/2025 09:38

My gran died but she mostly raised me, so between grandparent and parent. We were very close which not everyone understands when it’s a grandparent.

So basically an equal to your mum.

SkankingWombat · 19/02/2025 10:42

I'm sorry you've lost your DGM.

It doesn't remove the absolute ball ache of job searching and paying the bills in the meantime, but this screams of being a Them Problem not a You Problem. Don't tie yourself up in knots trying to figure out what you did wrong or trying to prove their reasons wrong: there are no answers to this because they've made up something vague and wishy washy as they can't say you're fired with no explanation and won't want to share the real reason.

Given they haven't replaced the other woman and the large increase in your workload rather than employ another person there too, my money is on the business struggling. In those cases it is always either the most well-paid employee (provided they haven't been there too long, necessitating a large settlement of course. This usually proves foolish as that pay was given due to a wealth of experience that turns out to be carrying the department IME...) or, because there are no legal complications, those with less than 2 years service.

My curiosity would get the better of me, and I'd be watching to see if your post gets advertised.

PrueD · 19/02/2025 10:42

LogicVoid · 19/02/2025 10:38

If the reference is inaccurate ('‘This decision follows a thorough review of your performance and overall suitability for your role.’) then they are on potentially dodgy ground. It might be worth getting some legal advice, sometime home insurance includes this, or ACAS for general pointers on poor references.

It’s a thorough review I wasn’t privy to. It was never raised in one to ones or in writing.

if you can dismissed like this without a fair process it doesn’t seem correct at all.

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AngelicKaty · 19/02/2025 10:38

Treesandsheepeverywhere · 19/02/2025 10:11

Sorry for your loss OP and the job.
Not great, but as one door closes, another opens.
You left your old job for a reason, so onwards and upwards.

Being unemployed can be upsetting, but it will get better.
If your old company was sad to see you go, another will be happy to have you.

And her old employer may also be happy to have her back if they have a vacancy - it's certainly worth her getting in touch with them just to check.

LogicVoid · 19/02/2025 10:38

If the reference is inaccurate ('‘This decision follows a thorough review of your performance and overall suitability for your role.’) then they are on potentially dodgy ground. It might be worth getting some legal advice, sometime home insurance includes this, or ACAS for general pointers on poor references.

catgirl1976 · 19/02/2025 10:35

You don’t have the service for an unfair dismissal claim. Unless there was any discrimination you’re limited really to wrongful dismissal (If they’ve not followed a fair process) but if you’ve had your notice pay you’re unlikely to get anything from such a claim

Sorry for your loss

PixieMcGraw · 19/02/2025 10:34

I'm so sorry, some employers are totally immoral.
Although the law is supposed to change soon, there is no recourse to unfair dismissal unless you can show you were sacked due to a protected characteristic. I would say you have nothing to lose by talking to ACAS. The service is free and they are super helpful and know the law.
They do have to pay your contractual notice period I believe.
Post a truthful review on glassdoor.com.
It may not feel like it now, but you are probably better off out of there in the long term.

RubyFlax · 19/02/2025 10:33

I’m really sorry about your job situation, but also about your loss of your grandparent. What an awful time. Just came to say although it feels like you’re in the thick of it today, and dealing with a big shock on top of your grief, something better will come along as a work opportunity. Unfortunately being in a role less than 2 years they can just let you go. They have to put a reason in writing, but more than likely it’s not at all to do with the quality of your work (even if it says it is). Take their reason with a pinch of salt. The same thing happened to my husband a few years ago after 6 months in a role. He was so upset and it really knocked his confidence, but it was absolutely nothing to do with his capability or him as a person. He was a very highly valued employee at other companies before that role, and has been successful and valued at every employer since…. And you know what, you will be too. Please don’t let this knock your confidence or take it too personally. Some companies / managers are arseholes, and honestly who wants to work for them? Take time to rest, be kind to yourself after the loss of your relative & I’m sure another much better opportunity will be around the corner. Sounds like a huge cliche, but it’s usually true. It feels like a sucker punch at the time, but better days are coming.

PrueD · 19/02/2025 10:32

@Notgivenuphope yes the funeral this week and now the reality of being sacked is starting to kick in.

thank you for understanding.

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PrueD · 19/02/2025 10:31

MikeRafone · 19/02/2025 10:26

Id approach your previous company to ask for a reference, as you said they were pleased with your work - so they should give you a decent reference.

Going forward if anyone asks say you were let go as others were during your time there & people weren't replaced and it was all rather unpleasant - that's honest & what has happened.

Thankfully I did ask for this before leaving and got a good reference from my previous manager.

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DazzlingCuckoos · 19/02/2025 10:30

PrueD · 19/02/2025 10:22

How do I explain why I’m leaving at new interviews?

I'd suggest finding a way to word your reply that indicates it was an issue with your employer, not you.

i.e. "Unfortunately it transpired they weren't a great company to work for so I'm looking for something that is a better fit."

Washinghanginginthesun · 19/02/2025 10:29

Probably too late now, but could you ask to resign instead?

Notgivenuphope · 19/02/2025 10:27

PrueD · 19/02/2025 09:38

My gran died but she mostly raised me, so between grandparent and parent. We were very close which not everyone understands when it’s a grandparent.

I understand you.
I helped my mum nurse my dear gran until she died last year. She was my absolute world.
It is bollocks to have a blanket system that rewards more leave and care if it’s a parent, spouse or child. I know many who are closer to aunts, cousins or even godparents than an actual direct bloodline relative. Each case is unique.
Take care of yourself OP. This is a horribly vulnerable time.

MzHz · 19/02/2025 10:27

PrueD · 19/02/2025 09:50

I’ve just had the termination letter. This is the wording:

‘This decision follows a thorough review of your performance and overall suitability for your role.’

My manager said she was happy with my
performance and hadn’t told me about concerns. So I’ve been blindsided and not given a chance to address things.

They hired you for that project delivery and now that’s done, you’re surplus to requirements

they did it before, right?

it’s cheaper than hiring a contractor probably