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Jealous MIL

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CJ98 · 18/02/2025 22:38

I am due to go back to work in March once my maternity leave ends, the issue I’m having is my MIL is never happy with the days we’ve arranged with her.
Both myself and my partner are going back to work full time & will be having the same two days off work to spend it as a family - these being Tuesday & Saturday.
My MIL said she could have our daughter Sunday to Tuesday & my mum would have her Wednesday to Friday, we agreed with her that Tuesdays wouldn’t be ideal as we want to use that day to spend time as a family. She agreed with Sunday & Monday. She’s now decided to inform us that she can no longer do Sundays as her partner wants the weekend to spend as a family. As you can imagine we've now had to ask my mum if she’d have our daughter Sunday, Wednesday to Friday. Neither of them will be having our daughter over night, and it’s simply because me and my partners shifts overlap. I’ll be working 7-16 or 10-18 he will be working 10-18 or 14-22 and so we need someone to basically have our child in between.
My MIL has now said she’s really upset that she’s only getting one day a week with our daughter and she doesn’t think it’s fair that my mum will be spending more time with her.
At the moment my mum doesn’t have our daughter on her own (I go to my mums once a week and this is the only time my mum sees our daughter) whereas my MIL has her once a week on her own & has her for the full day. Shes never been happy with the one day a week system we having going on, she currently has our daughter on a Tuesday but because she works Wednesday to Saturday she basically wants our daughter those three days. At the moment her having her on a Tuesday works as I’m still on maternity leave so that one day a week is giving me a break but I’m worried that if she continues having our daughter on a Tuesday both me and my partner are going to feel like we are only having her once a week which is something we want to avoid.
we both are well aware that we are going to miss out on some time with our daughter as going back to full time isn’t going to be easy but we want to try and make time for us as a family hence us having the same days off.
I feel like I’m stuck in the middle of everything & I’m not sure what I’m supposed to do to make everyone happy.
Am I being unreasonable or selfish for telling her no to having our daughter on a Tuesday ?
Am I being unreasonable for asking my mum to have our daughter more than my MIL because it’s simply easier & my mum is extremely happy to do this.
am I just being unreasonable full stop. 😣

OP posts:
CJ98 · 19/02/2025 10:25

Horserider5678 · 19/02/2025 06:08

So you’re only earning £260 a week? Well that’s not right the minimum wage is currently £11.44 an hour! So something is not right, you’re actually trying to justify taking advantage of your parents! Rather than use your parents you need to pay for childcare and work around each other!

I never said I earn £260 a week. When you add up the cost of childcare for the month it’s basically a months wage for one of us. I’m not taking advantage of our parents as they have offered to help rather than seeing us pay for childcare they’ve happily said they’d look after our daughter

OP posts:
prelovedusername · 19/02/2025 10:23

You are so lucky to have this help OP. Your DM and MIL are doing you a massive favour providing any childcare at all so of course it should be on their terms. Very few people would want to give up every Sunday for childcare.

Why not let them sort it out between them? They might come up with an arrangement that gives everybody what they want.

satsumaqueen · 19/02/2025 10:22

Tell your MIL no, it’s her problem not yours. I had a similar situation when I went back to work. On maternity leave MIL said she would have my son 2 days a week, my mum offered to have him the other day and changed her hours at work to ensure she always had that day off. Then well after I had arranged my working days with my company, and confirming multiple times with her before signing my contract, MIL turned round and said she could no longer have him on those days and needed to swap. I wasn’t able to because I ended up in a job share so had to stick to the days originally said. As a result we ended up having to put my son into nursery for 1 1/2 days a week as that was the minimum they would take him for, my MIL ended up with him for the afternoon of the half day in the end. She still goes on about it now, but it’s from her own doing. I wasn’t prepared to lose a day a week with my son when I wasn’t able to earn any income.

AlternativeView · 19/02/2025 10:12

@HexagonSun because they literally don't know and realise.

It's become something that you just do now, it's what everyone does so it's not given that extra investigation. It's why it's so important to be aware of reality to then work around that and do spot checks on the child. Turn up unannounced.

Ponoka7 · 19/02/2025 10:11

DazedDragon · 19/02/2025 08:54

I think it's quite sad and almost weird that your own child will spend more time with their grandparents than you!

I don't like the fact that your MIL seems to consider your DD a possession that she can demand. That's rather controlling.

I'd suggest you and your DH have ONE day off together (Saturday) then take different other days off (so one Thursday and one Friday). Your MIL can then have DD Monday and Tuesday, and your mum can have her Sunday and Wednesday.

Personally I'd consider a nursery for 2 days a week as kids get SO much out of nursery. Then the grandparents can do one day a week each.

'I think it's quite sad and almost weird that your own child will spend more time with their grandparents than you!"

So, like other posters, you'd have the child spend more time with strangers twice a week, instead? Madness. There was a lot of bias in most research regarding GP childcare and a lot of the research was paid to be done by childcare providers.

I'm my DD's childcare. The youngest is seven. I'm packing in as much as I can this year because I'm actually going to miss softplay and the craft activities, they won't entertain next year. I'm hoping that my DD's best friend is successful in ttc, because I will be available, as I've been for her other friends. Some of us enjoy children. I was brought up in an extended family and close neighbours, including going on holiday. Thankfully bounce places, crazy golf, zoos etc aren't grown out of. In the pub you can see the difference in those of us who are very involved with younger family members. We haven't gone down the 'snowflake/woke/boat people' etc hyperbole. It's also keeping us active.
OP, stick with your plan. It doesn't have to be forever, you can rethink your shifts as the school nursery years approach. On a Tuesday, there's less people about, it's a good day to have off together. Santa's grottos etc have more availability. There might be the odd time you and your DH wouldn't mind your MIL having your DC, even half the day. Children do best in loving, involved, extended families.

RedSkyDelights · 19/02/2025 09:53

KeepDancing74 · 19/02/2025 09:45

I think a key part of your plan people are missing is that long opening hours in retail mean you're not actually looking for full days of childcare: "I’ll be working 7-16 or 10-18 he will be working 10-18 or 14-22 and so we need someone to basically have our child in between." Not sure what your travel times are like, but on a day A (7am-4pm / 10am-6pm) you'll need childcare from 10am-4pm, and on a day B (10am-6pm / 2pm-10pm) you'll need childcare from 2pm-6pm

And when they are both working 10am-6pm they will need childcare from 10am-6pm plus travel times. Which is a full day.

The travel makes a huge difference here as well - where is their house relative to OP's mum's house and OP's MIL's house and their places of work?

JanaJ1988 · 19/02/2025 09:52

Easy answer is now that your days have changed, start again with the rota.
This includes your days and DM’s days too.

Your DM may also be happy to have less childcare responsibility and grateful for a change.

You will also have more flexibility around sick days, given your DM is regularly doing less and you have both maintained your days.

Zusammengebrochen · 19/02/2025 09:50

Redlocks30 · 19/02/2025 09:29

but I am genuinely confused by the amount of people commenting that childcare is better or the solution to OPs problem

Paying for a nursery does usually mean that you get the days you want without guilt tripping, them cancelling or being unavailable due to illness/tiredness/car breaking down etc etc though. I know lots of people have found it reliable and far easier than depending on flaky (though in paper 'free') relatives.

It is a better option because it's a business arrangement, as opposed to a family one.

Moonnstars · 19/02/2025 09:50

KeepDancing74 · 19/02/2025 09:45

I think a key part of your plan people are missing is that long opening hours in retail mean you're not actually looking for full days of childcare: "I’ll be working 7-16 or 10-18 he will be working 10-18 or 14-22 and so we need someone to basically have our child in between." Not sure what your travel times are like, but on a day A (7am-4pm / 10am-6pm) you'll need childcare from 10am-4pm, and on a day B (10am-6pm / 2pm-10pm) you'll need childcare from 2pm-6pm

This is a really good point. And actually another good reason why it might be better if the parents have one day as family day and then have different days off on the other.
Though if they work different shifts maybe it would be less of an issue (I am thinking if they both start work at 8 and leave at 7, would granny have the baby over night? Then what happens if the next shift is the same hours the next day? Does baby just stay with granny, and parents visit at granny's house when they finish work at 4 but put baby to bed there?). I think the shift rota is definitely something to consider in terms of how that will work if there are late nights/early starts.

Zusammengebrochen · 19/02/2025 09:49

KeepDancing74 · 19/02/2025 09:45

I think a key part of your plan people are missing is that long opening hours in retail mean you're not actually looking for full days of childcare: "I’ll be working 7-16 or 10-18 he will be working 10-18 or 14-22 and so we need someone to basically have our child in between." Not sure what your travel times are like, but on a day A (7am-4pm / 10am-6pm) you'll need childcare from 10am-4pm, and on a day B (10am-6pm / 2pm-10pm) you'll need childcare from 2pm-6pm

Half a day of childcare is still a commitment though, it kind of stops you doing some other stuff too. E.g. I went on a sneaky break away for a few days last weekend - if there had been even a few hours of other commitments in the middle of it I wouldn't have been able to do it so easily. Grandparents have 'parented' already.

Zusammengebrochen · 19/02/2025 09:48

MumblesParty · 19/02/2025 09:03

Because often grandparents want to do it.

I think a lot of grandparents underestimate how much hard work it is, plus there definitely is an expectation from some folk.

KeepDancing74 · 19/02/2025 09:45

I think a key part of your plan people are missing is that long opening hours in retail mean you're not actually looking for full days of childcare: "I’ll be working 7-16 or 10-18 he will be working 10-18 or 14-22 and so we need someone to basically have our child in between." Not sure what your travel times are like, but on a day A (7am-4pm / 10am-6pm) you'll need childcare from 10am-4pm, and on a day B (10am-6pm / 2pm-10pm) you'll need childcare from 2pm-6pm

MellowCritic · 19/02/2025 09:30

SocialMeeds · 18/02/2025 22:41

I’d love to have a snippet of the childcare support you have. We have nothing and both sets of grandparents are about 30 minutes away. If you don’t like it, drop your hours and do your own childcare.

Edited

If you understood the post op isn't complaining about her mil not being able to accommodate her work pattern. It's the mil getting upset because ops mum will have the child more. you'd love to have what op has as you said yourself, so don't be hating on those that have help. For some reason on a platform called mumsnet ppl take issue with others getting free child care from family. Ppl need to work. Ppl can't always afford nursery. If free help is available, op should absolutely ask and take it.

Dearover · 19/02/2025 09:29

Certainly not irrelevant when the OP's mum is exhausted after 4 days of free childcare if she does Sundays on top of Wednesdays, Thursdays and Fridays At the moment the spends one day a week with the baby. It's going to be s culture shock to her as well. It sounds like a nice idea, but the reality of the commitment is very different.

This whole thing sounds unsustainable

Redlocks30 · 19/02/2025 09:29

but I am genuinely confused by the amount of people commenting that childcare is better or the solution to OPs problem

Paying for a nursery does usually mean that you get the days you want without guilt tripping, them cancelling or being unavailable due to illness/tiredness/car breaking down etc etc though. I know lots of people have found it reliable and far easier than depending on flaky (though in paper 'free') relatives.

Codlingmoths · 19/02/2025 09:26

Dearover · 19/02/2025 09:08

My own NDN works and juggles providing free childcare to 4 grandchildren. The parents seem to be oblivious to how tired she is and the income she has lost by reducing her own hours so they can avoid childcare costs themselves. Perhaps more grandparents ike this MiL should be honest about the impact it has on them when they try to help out.

When they beg to help out you mean, and try to guilt trip their daughter in law to miss out on one of her only two days with her own child? Your friend might be tired but that seems irrelevant to this thread.

godddwhathaveyoudone · 19/02/2025 09:25

Wow I must admit I’m very jealous at your childcare offers, your mum offering to look after your daughter virtually 50% of the time is incredible. You’re very, very lucky.

As for MIL I think others have given some good advice- definitely the sort of free childcare that comes at a cost and she sounds very problematic and dramatic.

HexagonSun · 19/02/2025 09:24

Newposter180 · 19/02/2025 09:10

My parents are dead so I do have to use nursery but was actually put off a childminder setup by several threads on here where loads of people commented that they’d been subjected to inappropriate behaviour by childminders’ partners, who obviously don’t have any checks etc. There definitely has to be more trust with a childminder IMO; if they’re completely alone with your child in a way that’s less common at nursery then there is a lot more opportunity for all forms of abuse.

And this is what is the best choice for you and your children. Every parent has to weigh up the available resources and make the best decision they can- that will be nursery for many.

Summerbod25 · 19/02/2025 09:20

I am telling you now that while it seems wonderful and convenient and money-saving for your MIL to look after your daughter, long term this is absolutely not going to work. She’s being incredibly difficult about the arrangements already (the Sunday is totally fair though, her & her partner should have free time together) and ultimately this won’t end well. You are already walking on eggshells around her demands/sulking, or you would simply tell her “no, Tuesday is obviously a day we will be spending together as a family”
This won’t work, look for a childminder or nursery to do 3 days a week, and allow the grandparents a day each. Set your boundaries firmly now, once your MIL is doing regular childcare, it will be very hard to establish any boundaries around anything.

Advocodo · 19/02/2025 09:19

I personally would have just one day a week when you and your partner have a family day together. This would mean your daughter has more days with her parents which is surely t better for your daughter. Just my opinion though. Lots and lots of families don’t manage 2 days a week for family days.

HexagonSun · 19/02/2025 09:18

AlternativeView · 19/02/2025 08:05

@HexagonSun there was a rare thread on here recently about nursery, someone said they saw some bad behavior from a staff member and lots came on to say similar.

Op I wouldn't bow to mil, only if it works for you. One day a week is still loads.

I didn’t see this thread, but I’ve seen awful things in very well rated nurseries.
I don’t want to scare parents into thinking all nurseries are bad. But even good ones are struggling, the majority rely on agency staff which puts incredible strain on the permanent staff and is unfair on the children.

Edit- I know this isnt the topic of the original post, but I am genuinely confused by the amount of people commenting that childcare is better or the solution to OPs problem

museumum · 19/02/2025 09:17

Absolutely stand firm on your two days - it's important your child spends time with their own parents!

You can offer your MIL any of the days your DM agreed to (wed, thur, fri) - it might be nice for your DM not to have to do three days in a row. But stand strong on the Tuesday.
In fact, if i were you, i'd stop visiting her on a Tuesday soon in order to start getting into the 'new routine'. What days does your DP have off now - can he start his new shift pattern sooner than when you go back?

ssd · 19/02/2025 09:14

lauraloulou1 · 18/02/2025 22:47

This post is so entitled. Pay for some childcare!

This. And spend some time with your child!!!

ClairDeLaLune · 19/02/2025 09:11

CJ98 · 18/02/2025 23:35

That’s something we’ve just sat down and spoke about, either that or moving our day off to Wednesday and allowing my MIL to have her on a Tuesday so that we still get our two days off together and she gets the day she wants.

Surely moving your day-off to Wednesday is the answer.

Then MIL can have her Mondays and Tuesdays, and your mum Sundays, Thursdays and Fridays. 4 days for your mum was a really big ask tbh.

Redlocks30 · 19/02/2025 09:11

@CJ98 how old are your mum/MIL and do they still work? If so, how many days?

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