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To not constantly be worrying about my children?

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evegettinglighter · 18/02/2025 17:58

As babies, I wasn’t overcome with anxiety if someone looked in the pram and breathed near them. I sent them to nursery three days a week after a happy maternity leave and wasn’t overcome with anxiousness about the terrible things that could happen to them. I don’t have a monitor to watch them at night and I didn’t keep them rear facing in the car once they got old enough to protest.

So why am I made to feel like an unfit mother? And AIBU to think that upholding anxiety as the sign of a truly caring parent is actually toxic as hell?

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BoredZelda · 19/02/2025 10:57

there is literally an example on the thread where someone essentially says that she only has one child so can’t take risks (because of course, I’d just shrug if one of my children was killed because I have another - sheesh.)

You have literally misunderstood what that poster was saying. She wasn't talking about siblings being spare children. She was saying she doesn't have a spare one in the cupboard she can take out if something happens to her child.

BoredZelda · 19/02/2025 10:55

It really isn’t. It’s a thread saying - I don’t like the way anxiety (which as others have rightly informed me is a mental illness) is held up and encouraged.

It isn't. Different people have different experiences and therefore have different ways of assessing risks. My experiences have been different from the norm and so the things I see parents doing which put their child at risk are completely different. If it is something they might not know about and I think they might like to take into consideration, I'll speak up.

Other parents will have other experiences and might see things I'm doing as a risk and they will speak up. I don't see them encouraging me to be anxious, I see them as sharing information and I'll take it on board and decide if it applies to me.

If you are feeling a certain way about people sharing risks they know about and you decide that's not a problem for you, that's on you. You need to deal with your issues there.

Ilitetallycantrememberanythinganymore · 19/02/2025 07:12

Strawberryfruitcorner · 18/02/2025 20:47

Yep mental illness is exhausting mate.

I am not talking about those who have mental illness. I know what the difference is. But take your point.

evegettinglighter · 19/02/2025 03:37

@Vvvvvvvvvvvvvv - you did say I only have one, so no spare kids I'm prepared to risk on the road! Do you honestly think that if I only had one child I’d make a different choice?

And the whole RF debate misses the point that just going on the road in the first place is potentially putting your child in danger. RF is safest, I’m not disputing that. But actually the difference in terms of safety outcomes is minimal. A child in a forward facing car seat that is properly fitted in a modern car with safety devices is not unsafe. RF would slightly increase their survival chances in terms of crash yes, but if the chances of that crash increase hugely because of a wailing toddler then those odds are higher anyway.

In any event I think the point of the thread has been a bit missed. I’m not cavalier with my children just to make some weird point; I don’t have them doing sky dives or something to make some weird point. But I suppose i do go about my normal life not envisioning terrible things happening to them. In some quarters, and you can see some of those attitudes on here emerging, that is taken to mean inferior parenting, because if you don’t RF your child, if you don’t anxiously worry about them and express that anxiety then you don’t really love them,’which is a toxic attitude to have.

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Astronautstar · 19/02/2025 00:33

I feel like I live in agony because I put my daughter on ponies at an early age, partly because she gave me no choice, but I am by nature extremely anxious about her safety. I ensure she operates within safe parameters which panders to my own needs but it is by definition a risk sport and her chances of serious injury are much higher because she rides. But I have seen how riding has developed her courage, persistence, patience, confidence and raised her overall level of well-being. And it took those skills to allow her to get into a school where she would be happy. So maybe the riding has protected her from a far more devastating mental illness or a life of unfulfilled desperation.

Astronautstar · 19/02/2025 00:26

LondonFox · 18/02/2025 22:16

I get you.
Traveled over Europe with 3mo baby forward facing.
How the hell are you supposed to feed and comfort a back facing child?
In a dire situation of a fatal accident I would be the first one to die anyway as I was rotated half way back lol.

But also, I am a kind of preson to lets a 18mo old run down the 30° path and bang on a stone bcs she was protesting to be picked up or holding hand.
Was her injury expected? Yup.
They need to learn.

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I wouldn't do this. Not a stone path. That's two lessons at once. Kinder to do the incline and terrain separately.

SouthLondonMum22 · 19/02/2025 00:26

I largely agree with you except for rear facing, that's just safety. My child may protest that he has to hold my hand when crossing the road but he's still doing it for as long as I feel is necessary to keep him safe.

Same with rear facing.

Astronautstar · 19/02/2025 00:24

A lot of mumsnet threads would be silenced if we could just accept that a diversity of approaches are acceptable.

No need to pick a side. Pros and cons both ways.

User79853257976 · 19/02/2025 00:21

evegettinglighter · 18/02/2025 18:59

They aren’t but when they are used in a sort of ‘oh I can’t possibly imagine not being able to see my child while they’re asleep’ then they are.

I am sympathetic to anxiety: I do say it’s a genuine feeling it’s hard to just stop and I do get that. I just don’t think it should be encouraged I suppose.

What about RF car seats? That’s not anxiety.

Notgivenuphope · 19/02/2025 00:17

You sound like a sensible and level headed mum!
I was the same. DD was passed round the old ladies at church at 6 days old! She threw herself head first down the slide aged 3, falls of her bike and laughs at it, went to nursery, was sleep trained, goes to parties and play dates on her own (I drop and go), and is a great kid. I will worry when she actually gives me something to worry about.

Vvvvvvvvvvvvvv · 19/02/2025 00:13

evegettinglighter · 18/02/2025 20:45

I don’t feel like that at all @Diningtableornot .

I am uncomfortable with the way anxiety is held up as a sign of a mother that truly loves her children - there is literally an example on the thread where someone essentially says that she only has one child so can’t take risks (because of course, I’d just shrug if one of my children was killed because I have another - sheesh.)

Just to correct you, not "can't take risks" but "won't put her child in danger on the road". Slight differences, hey :)

LondonFox · 18/02/2025 22:16

evegettinglighter · 18/02/2025 19:33

When people say things like I couldn’t possibly have mine forward facing, I’ve seen too many horror stories!

I get you.
Traveled over Europe with 3mo baby forward facing.
How the hell are you supposed to feed and comfort a back facing child?
In a dire situation of a fatal accident I would be the first one to die anyway as I was rotated half way back lol.

But also, I am a kind of preson to lets a 18mo old run down the 30° path and bang on a stone bcs she was protesting to be picked up or holding hand.
Was her injury expected? Yup.
They need to learn.

TagSplashMaverick · 18/02/2025 21:47

I’m not particularly anxious. I’ve worked hard to not instil fear into my kids too, and will never say “be careful you don’t fall/slip/bang your head etc”, but instead say “do you think you can do it? Yeah? Go on then!” And then help them do it or better, stand back. Even if it is a bit sketchy for their age/stage. I think it teaches them to risk assess and know they’re responsible for themselves and their safety.

It has provoked comments before from other more anxious friends, and I like to wind them up as a result.

“If he falls off that rock he could break his neck.”
”Yeah, but he’ll only do it once.”

Could be a coincidence but it’s created brave but sensible kids.

Elsbels00 · 18/02/2025 21:47

Like a pp not plaque.

Elsbels00 · 18/02/2025 21:47

But like a plaque, everyone has a level of risk that they're comfortable with.

Like your baby monitor/car seat example. You say it's worrying, for other people they think it's safety.

I didn't personally have a video monitor or a rear facing (beyond a certain age). But if the rear facing car seats are safer then it's not anxiety to choose one.

It's like what age do you let your child cycle or run off ahead out of sight. Do you trust them not to run in the road. Do you feel otherwise safe in the environment you're in. This will be different for different families.

evegettinglighter · 18/02/2025 21:37

Worrying about a child isn’t looking after them, though.

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Elsbels00 · 18/02/2025 21:34

Who has told you that you're a lesser parent because you don't worry?

I don't think worrying is held up as being a good thing.

Feeling worried and anxious is a horrible state to be in.

I do think it can go to the other extreme. A certain amount of worry or more caution is a good thing. Children do need to be looked after at the end of the day.

RisingSunn · 18/02/2025 21:27

It’s hard to get the balance. I’ve had to pull a child back onto the pavement - as he had gone ahead of his parents and his ball had fallen into the main road. He went to retrieve it without even looking - in the midst of fast traffic flowing.

Parent was so far back and didn’t have a clue what was happening .

Everyone will have a level of risk they are comfortable with. If someone is more cautious than you - it doesn’t make them anxious.

Oblomov25 · 18/02/2025 21:26

Mn is ridden with posters who have high anxiety. I don't really do anxiety. I don't really worry about ds's as such, even now they are older. I don't want them stabbed or hurt, but most of that is outside of my control anyway, so why worry?

tappitytaptap · 18/02/2025 21:23

I've found this at my kids very middle class school. It seems more normal to be less worried amongst some of my less than middle class school friends?! I worry when the kids are ill, when one kept having seizures, about my oldest fitting in/having difficulty with school, etc, but I had to mute some WhatsApp groups as some of the parents were so over the top about everything. I started to feel like a rubbish parent like you do, but I'm not sure what all the worrying about school dinners, swimming lessons etc achieves, so I ignore and eye roll nowadays.

evegettinglighter · 18/02/2025 21:22

You’ve misunderstood me @Rowen32 . I was talking about parents who insist on using a monitor when their child is asleep because they would be too anxious to leave them in their cot or whatever. The car thing - rear facing is safest; doesn’t make forward facing unsafe.

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evegettinglighter · 18/02/2025 21:21

Sportacus17 · 18/02/2025 21:13

Stealth goady thread.

It really isn’t. It’s a thread saying - I don’t like the way anxiety (which as others have rightly informed me is a mental illness) is held up and encouraged.

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Sportacus17 · 18/02/2025 21:13

Stealth goady thread.

Rowen32 · 18/02/2025 21:13

evegettinglighter · 18/02/2025 18:59

They aren’t but when they are used in a sort of ‘oh I can’t possibly imagine not being able to see my child while they’re asleep’ then they are.

I am sympathetic to anxiety: I do say it’s a genuine feeling it’s hard to just stop and I do get that. I just don’t think it should be encouraged I suppose.

But you can see your child asleep forward facing with a mirror.

Rear facing is 4 times safer so complain or not, your children would have been safer in an accident rear facing, that's not fear, it's just fact.

Icanttakethisanymore · 18/02/2025 21:13

I think you are either a worrier or you’re not. I’m not and I’m very grateful for that. No one has ever implied (to my face at least) that not worrying makes me a bad mother, but to be honest I wouldn’t worry (see what I did there!) if they did.