AIBU to think the media should report people’s actual sex—not preferred gender—in legal cases, courts, and crime reporting?

Yes

Yes I agree with you completely.
I’ve also seen the argument that men should be allowed in Women’s spaces because around 90% of sexual crimes committed against women are by men that they know.
I think the stats are skewed that way simply because men haven’t historically been allowed in to women’s spaces. It’s all about opportunity.

I was reading a horrific thread on the relationships board about how many women have been subjected to sexual violence by a man from their own family - in a disturbing number of cases, their own fathers and brothers. It feels like a sizeable proportion of men would do this to a woman given the opportunity to do so.

@Binglebong Problem is these are not agreed terms. Some people will say that 'woman' includes individuals who are male and that transwoman is an unnecessary term.

Afaik the crime of 'assault by penetration' carries the same penalties as rape?

...but even though it's possible for 'women to do it too', of course the overwhelming preponderance of those crimes are by males too.

Yes it affects crime statistics.

We all know that some men are violent towards women. Therefore single sex spaces are justified as it is a proportionate means of achieving a legitimate aim - i.e. keeping women safe from male violence.

As we've started recording violent crime against women as committed by women (even though the perpetrator is biologically male), the crime statistics get watered down. It's harder to justify that a single sex space is needed for the protection of women as the stats now show that some women also commit violence against women.

I've would like anything discussing trans,including this site, to put a glossary at the beginning of every thread or article. I get confused with TIMs and TIFs and I've been here years!

The definition of rape in law is when a person puts his penis in another person's vagina, anus or mouth, without that person's permission. Yes, the law uses the word "his".

Assault by penetration is when someone puts an object or any part of the body other than their penis (for example fingers) into another person's vagina or anus, without that person's consent.

Sexual assault is when someone touches another person sexually without that person's consent, with an object or body part.

Scottish law does specifically include a surgically created penis in its definition of rape. The law in England and Wales does not.

Actual biological women can be found guilty of rape if they assist a male person to rape someone, but such verdicts are rare.

I've no objection to newspapers reporting a persons 'gender' in addition to their actual sex, it may be useful clarification if they're using a 'feminine' name.

They almost never do get phalloplasty. It's an extreme surgery with very high failure rates and involves attempting to create an approximation of a penis from a skin flap harvested from the forearm or thigh wrapped around their urethra which obviously needs to be lengthened in some way.

The main aim is to reduce dysphoria so they have something that resembles a penis, then to pee standing up.

To have intercourse with it they'd need some sort of pump or other device to produce an erection.

I don't know if this would be classed as rape if achieved as part of a sexual assault. I guess so. The numbers are likely to be very, very small given offender stats for females + rarity of the surgery + logistics.

Yes, reality should be the basis of information given in a court of law, in a hospital, in prisons, schools and reported in newspapers/media sites.

You can use your feelings, sexual preferences and preferred pronouns in personal situations and where all others have consented to being part of your fantasy life.

Ie they should print the truth

Yes

Different jurisdictions have different definitions. The fact that elsewhere other penetrative assaults are called 'rape' makes the OPs point more important.

There have been headlines using the word 'woman' - without the trans part - for rapes and other sexual assaults/crimes committed by males. As I point out every time the IPSO code is mentioned, its very first clause is about accuracy and not being misleading. Editors who allow headlines and content which call a male sex offender a 'woman' or 'she' are breaking the code.

As this is about as common as seeing a leprechaun at the end of a rainbow it seems like a bit of a moot point doesn’t it - but mansplainers always trot out this fallacy - you see it all the time on here from the incels and the odd handmaiden: “bUt WoMeN dO tHaT tOo!!!”

Yes of course people should be reported as their actual sex - fucking ridiculous we’re even having this conversation and it properly boils my piss.

Agree about most people not even knowing what a TW actually is - I’m always banging on about the TWAW issue and dh still every single time asks “what’s a TW again? Is it female to male or vice versa?” 🙄

In the UK rape is penetration of the vagina, mouth or anus with a penis.

Penetration of the vagina, mouth or anus with another object is sexual assault.

The maximum sentence for rape and sexual assault is the same. A sexual assault with an implement being used in the same way as a penis would carry the same sentence as rape.

Yanbu, sex should be the default stat for so so many things.

Do Transmen usually get some sort of penis created for their body - I mean a flesh and blood one, not a strap-on dildo.

If a transman has such a "created" penis could she commit Rape?

I agree that crimes should be recorded as committed by sex not gender, so perhaps a female could commit rape in these circumstances and it should be recorded as a such, so a woman could Rape.

Do you agree?

@Catza and @MissyB1 Penetration by another object or part of anatomy is classed as sexual assault; women can commit such a sexual assault, but rape is strictly a male offense committed by men with their penises.

That's what I thought, but I had a lawyer arguing with me the other week that a woman forcefully penetrating a male with an implement was legally defined as rape, so I'm doubting myself now 🤔

I am surprised by that. I would have thought any penetration would be classed as rape. I am extremely uncomfortable with this legal definition.... Live and learn!

Yep, I'm sick of male crimes being painted and recorded as female. Pure male supremacy.