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To end friendship because I can't stand her husband?

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DefrostedAccount · 18/02/2025 11:33

I have a mum friend who I get on with well, but I just cannot stand her husband. He makes me feel uncomfortable, makes my family feel uncomfortable, my friend who met him said she was uncomfortable around him. He's just so odd. Creepy almost. He's always there and I just always feel like I can't be myself. When I do spend time with her on her own it's lovely but it's not very often. I can't exactly say to her 'sorry I don't want to spend time with your DH, can we only spend time together just us', or can I? I know her well enough that that would go down like a lead balloon. Has anyone else had a similar scenario? Feel like cutting ties, and the kids are all in the same friendship group so could just limit it to hanging out with her at birthday parties and group events.... thoughts?

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AnxiouslyAwaitingSpring · 20/02/2025 02:20

ReadingSoManyThreads · 19/02/2025 00:01

@AnxiouslyAwaitingSpring he found out what you'd asked her. Either by reading her messages, or by secretly recording her at home, or by her actually telling him.

I'd be very concerned for her, and potentially think about discussing it with the school safeguarding team.

I've already brought it up with the headteacher and she spoke to friend (now presumably ex friend) and apparently "She's fine, don't worry!"

LameBorzoi · 19/02/2025 21:10

LazyArsedMagician · 19/02/2025 15:05

He could be any one of those things and OP can still have an opinion on whether she finds him creepy and whether she wants to spend time with him or not.

We're told to trust our instincts - but we're supposed to make allowances "just in case" he's not creepy he's just NT?

You can tell the difference with a modicum of reflection.

If it's just that he doesn't do small talk or take hints, that's ND.

Controlling or insidious behaviour is different.

FrogPonds · 19/02/2025 15:09

DaisyChain505 · 19/02/2025 08:42

After your update, it doesn’t sound like youre friends, it sounds like your kids are friends.

If she works and he doesn’t it makes sense that he would be the one taking the kids to play dates etc.

If you want to see this woman without her husband start making plans that don’t revolve around your children.

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Exactly. If you want to make individual plans with her, make it clear it’s her you want to see, and that it’s not a child occasions — suggest an after-work drink or something.

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User746353 · 19/02/2025 08:19

This. It doesn't seem like this man has done anything actively wrong except being perceived as "odd" and "creepy".

He could just be socially awkward, neurodivergent, can't read social cues or have other issues that affect his appearance & mannerisms which aren't related to wanting to do anything evil or creepy to his wife's friends. ND people are often disliked by NT people without a solid reason.

If he made inappropriate comments or his wife has hinted at other things then it makes sense. But to start a thread about a man who seemingly did nothing wrong except "look odd" is pure schoolgate gossip.

He could be any one of those things and OP can still have an opinion on whether she finds him creepy and whether she wants to spend time with him or not.

We're told to trust our instincts - but we're supposed to make allowances "just in case" he's not creepy he's just NT?

Mh67 · 19/02/2025 11:50

I told my sister I don't want to spend my free time seeing her husband. It's just not the same having a man hanging around. Now I say are you free to meet if he is off we just don't bother

Hdjdb42 · 19/02/2025 10:50

She obviously doesn't see you as a friend, just a mum who's kids play with hers. She's sending him, to ensure the play date goes ahead! I had this with another mum too. He was working lates and she worked long shifts, she always sent him for play dates and he'd always stay with me. I find this werid and creepy too, I stopped asking and she never followed up! Just stop arranging things. If she reaches out I'd honestly say, "I'm sorry we don't meet up anymore, it's because you're never available and send x instead! If I wanted to see x I would have arranged it with him."

Easipeelerie · 19/02/2025 10:02

Her sending him on the play date with you and the children is interesting. It suggest she has no idea that a key reason you want to meet up (apart from the children) is your friendship and camaraderie. If she’s not getting that, then she’s not the friend you think she is.
You say he doesn’t seem controlling, so I think in your position I’d bow out. Slowly be less available. If you’re keen to keep her, you could try suggesting girls nights out to see if she understands this means, not him, but I get the impression he’d still somehow tag along.

WhatColourIsThatBalloon · 19/02/2025 10:00

I’d sack this off if I were you. You don’t need to justify it really, he makes you uncomfortable and their dynamic means he’s always about. It’d be a no from me.

ShodAndShadySenators · 19/02/2025 09:47

I agree with PPs OP, this woman doesn't think you're friends, she thinks your kids are friends and all meet ups are to facilitate their friendship.

Pinkdreams · 19/02/2025 09:47

Anytime you meet up make it clear just say 'girls dinner' or 'girls coffee' she'll get the message without having to have that conversation

Samung · 19/02/2025 09:36

Kissedbyfire1 · 18/02/2025 22:07

I’ve had this a couple of times. First was years ago, a friend with a DC same age as mine, we spent a lot of time together and she let me and DC stay with her for a few weeks when I left my DH. She was a single parent.
Subsequently she met a married a guy she thought was wonderful, said he would do anything for anyone etc. Except he wasn’t. He was controlling and set out to isolate her, while sponging off her. I told her what I thought of him and that was the end of the friendship. They’re divorced now.
Second one is current. Lovely friend, much admired, successful professional woman on her third marriage. This husband is a predator. He tries every trick in the book to get me alone, he closes the door if we happen to be in a room together and gets between me and the way out. When they leave my house he always finds a reason to nip back so he’s alone with me. I know he’s a heartbeat away from making a move. Total creep. Every time now she tries to make arrangements for us to meet as couples I find an excuse to make it just her and I because he creeps me out.
I think always trust your gut feeling with people - men- like this.

This is chilling. I'm really pleased that you're making sure you're never alone with him, he's escalating.

Niknakcake · 19/02/2025 09:30

I’ve been the friend with the creepy partner that everyone stopped talking to…. I was so controlled I couldn’t see it at the time until a light bulb moment that lead to me having him arrested. I wish some of those people had stuck around in the shadows because coming out of an abusive relationship with no support is really hard.

keep the contact minimal if you need to but don’t walk away because one day she’ll see the light and she’ll need people to help her keep going forwards. Because if the option his him and his abusive ways or nobody at all it’s too easy to go back to him thinking something is better than nothing

CharSiu · 19/02/2025 09:26

I have 2 friends who have ended up with awful men, I mean truly obnoxious. The friendship ended with one because I did point out his abusive behaviour. The other one isn’t in an abusive relationship he is just a tiresome thick individual who has some really ridiculous opinions that are not well thought out and drones on about absolute bollocks. I see a lot less of her which is a shame but they are also glued together or so it seems.

I also had a friend with an obnoxious child, they became an obnoxious adult, it was a shame. But when your family also don’t like spending time with people and it’s not just your own thoughts then it’s over.

FamilyPhoto · 19/02/2025 09:17

AnxiouslyAwaitingSpring · 18/02/2025 23:23

Oh I had a very similar situation about a year ago and it still kills me. Sorry for the long post it's quite nuanced but it's just so odd!

I met a mum at school who'd just moved here from Romania to live with her British DH and her own DD.. Get on like a house on fire (her English is perfect) and our DC were besties. Friends is about 7 months pregnant at this point. I also got on 'ok' with her DH but he gave me the absolute creeps and as a survivor of DV myself, I am as certain as I can be without witnessing something, that he's controlling & segregating her.

He works from home and she doesn't drive so any time we met up, bar once, he was with us.
Friend has her baby, so I naturally don't see her for a few weeks but I do get to meet baby once which was lovely.
Her DH does school drop offs so I'd have small talk with him in playground most mornings. He was always polite to me, no issues ....yet.....

This niggling feeling that something wasn't right just wouldn't go so eventually I pluck up the courage to ask her straight. I made all the prefaces like "I really hope I don't offend you in any way with this, I'm only asking out of concern" etc and asked if he was in any way controlling or abusive? She said no and reassured me that she wasn't offended and said she knows I'm only asking as I'm a good friend to her. So I dropped it out of respect for her.

A few months pass by, everything's normal. Chatting on WhatsApp, sharing each week's homework with whoever's DD forgot it, etc. However I still have only seen her once since baby arrived? Though I just assume it's due to having a new baby! I remember it well. Although we are now 3 months down the line and by her own admission, she hasn't left the house with the baby once? Not my business though so I just continue chatting to her, being as supportive as I can and everything seems the exact same as it ever was. She contacts me just as much as I do her. All normal. Until...

Suddenly, one Monday morning, her DH walks straight past me at drop off and looks at me as I say "Morning!" {like I do every day} and he blanks me.... I let it go, but then it happens every morning for a week so I ask her if he's ok "Yes, why?" I explain and she says "Oh he says he hasn't seen you?" So then I gently add that well, actually it's happened every morning this week but I didn't think much of it the first couple of times as we all have bad days, right?! But it doesn't matter, no big deal! and she said "Please don't turn this into something it's not" 🤨

So I figured they must just be struggling with a new baby or have something personal going on? Whatever it is, is not my business. She knew I was there for her. So I assumed that was the end of it.
Nope. The blanking continued and from that moment on, I've had nothing but hostility from any attempt I've made to try and contact her, let alone find out what their issue is with me. I've been deleted from her Facebook & I've only had 2/3 cursory conversations with her via text regarding the children eg: "Just a heads up, (my DD's name) has chicken pox" followed by one civil response from her. That sort of thing.
I'm gutted! She was a fab friend...

Pound to a penny he has her phone.

LameBorzoi · 19/02/2025 09:09

User746353 · 19/02/2025 08:19

This. It doesn't seem like this man has done anything actively wrong except being perceived as "odd" and "creepy".

He could just be socially awkward, neurodivergent, can't read social cues or have other issues that affect his appearance & mannerisms which aren't related to wanting to do anything evil or creepy to his wife's friends. ND people are often disliked by NT people without a solid reason.

If he made inappropriate comments or his wife has hinted at other things then it makes sense. But to start a thread about a man who seemingly did nothing wrong except "look odd" is pure schoolgate gossip.

Yes - by the sound of it, he's not actually doing anything wrong.

alwaysdeleteyourcookies · 19/02/2025 09:03

From your update, it's your children who are friends. She doesn't see you as a friend, it sounds like.

dontcryformeargentina · 19/02/2025 09:00

She is disrespectful and a boundary pusher. I was in similar situation few years back and it turned out that my so called friend and her husband wanted a threesome with me. So her husband was behaving exactly as you have described. She would send him instead of her, he would pry on my private life, make inappropriate jokes. She told me later that I was his type and they were into different things to keep their marriage spicy. Nothing wrong with that but not at my expense. We are obviously not friends anymore.

Wsxx · 19/02/2025 08:46

I wouldn't give that a second thought.
I would 100% stop making any effort.

Unbelievably rude to not turn up and send her husband, even if you liked him.

Unbelievably rude.

Make no further effort.
If asked tell her you don't turn up, send your husband, which is really rude.

Or say nothing except no thanks busy.

She would really piss me off.
So bloody rude.

Actually I would find her very controlling and creepy to do that.
She is dictating your time and company.
So dishonest of her.

Bestfootforward11 · 19/02/2025 08:45

Bestfootforward11 · 19/02/2025 08:38

This does sound odd to me. Your instinct has kicked in re the ‘creepy vibe’ and I do find it a strange that he’s always there when you meet save for a few occasions. I’d expect it to be the other way around. My friends rarely meet with our DHs around save for maybe the odd party/dinner etc. Or if my DH is at home he’ll do some chit chat and then disappear so I can have time with my friend. His behaviour sounds deliberate and controlling. I’d suggest finding ways to get her out of the house to meet but I’m guessing maybe this is hard as it’s not happening that much.

I've read your updates and the ‘creepy vibe’ sounds less creepy than someone who maybe finds some life stuff hard that you don’t. His DW sounds like she’s trying to get him out and about perhaps. I get that you may not want to see him in the same way as you want to catch up with your friend and you can just say you prefer girlie time etc.

DaisyChain505 · 19/02/2025 08:42

After your update, it doesn’t sound like youre friends, it sounds like your kids are friends.

If she works and he doesn’t it makes sense that he would be the one taking the kids to play dates etc.

If you want to see this woman without her husband start making plans that don’t revolve around your children.

Bestfootforward11 · 19/02/2025 08:38

This does sound odd to me. Your instinct has kicked in re the ‘creepy vibe’ and I do find it a strange that he’s always there when you meet save for a few occasions. I’d expect it to be the other way around. My friends rarely meet with our DHs around save for maybe the odd party/dinner etc. Or if my DH is at home he’ll do some chit chat and then disappear so I can have time with my friend. His behaviour sounds deliberate and controlling. I’d suggest finding ways to get her out of the house to meet but I’m guessing maybe this is hard as it’s not happening that much.

Tistheseason17 · 19/02/2025 08:22

So she went to Aldi instead of meeting you and sent her husband in her place.
I don't think the husband is the problem.
You think she's your friend - she does not feel the same way about you, sorry.

User746353 · 19/02/2025 08:19

LlamaDharma · 18/02/2025 13:14

What is it that's creepy about him?

This. It doesn't seem like this man has done anything actively wrong except being perceived as "odd" and "creepy".

He could just be socially awkward, neurodivergent, can't read social cues or have other issues that affect his appearance & mannerisms which aren't related to wanting to do anything evil or creepy to his wife's friends. ND people are often disliked by NT people without a solid reason.

If he made inappropriate comments or his wife has hinted at other things then it makes sense. But to start a thread about a man who seemingly did nothing wrong except "look odd" is pure schoolgate gossip.

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