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Ask DH to not go on holiday with female friend.

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Freelll · 17/02/2025 21:44

My DH & DS have gone on holiday with DS’s friend and his mother several times in the past. They all share an interest in basketball and travel to the US to watch NBA games.

This year, despite booking tickets, the children have decided they want to travel with the friend’s father instead - the friends parents are divorced. However, my DH & this woman, are still planning to travel to the US together, as the tickets have already been paid for.

I don’t want him to go on holiday with just her; I have never been 100% comfortable with these trips but decided to keep my mouth shut because I’ve gone on holiday with male friends in the past, which my husband was unhappy about. I regret being so blood minded at the time.

Is it reasonable to ask him not to go?

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ritasuebobtoo · 18/02/2025 18:24

No no no no no. No. Absolutely not. 🤷‍♀️

Dervel · 18/02/2025 18:21

Freelll · 18/02/2025 13:52

My holidays were years ago, not when we had children. Also, they were mates, nothing more and nothing else.

I will try to say this as gently as I can, but you don’t get to set objective line for where this does or doesn’t become acceptable. Mainly because there isn’t one, as you’ll note from this thread that is a fair amount of dissent.

The stark fact is it went over that line for your husbands emotional comfort back when you did it, and you prioritised getting your fun in over his feelings. As it stands he’s not quite done the same thing (yet!) in that you have yet to share with him how this is making you feel. So he could in all innocence think well the trip away you took turned out perfectly fine and this is no different!

I think suddenly expecting him to toe your new moral line on the subject is absurd. All you can really do, and I really think that you should is simply confess how this is making you feel. I’d even go on to include how you now appreciate how it must have made him feel back when the shoe was on the other foot. You then have to hope he is willing to prioritise how you feel about this more than you did. However I’d steel yourself for the possibility that from his side pov you expected him to trust you, he may feel entitled to the same level of you trusting him. I’m pretty sure that was probably the thrust of your argument for you being able to go when it was you.

For the record I’m not particularly for or against the principle of two platonic opposite sex friends so I’m not judging you on that point. I could name a handful of friends of the opposite sex I could vacation with and I could guarantee you nothing would happen, but I would be unlikely to do it unless I had a very understanding partner. I hope you find the right balance here and it all works out.

latetothefisting · 18/02/2025 18:05

How old is your DS?
Did you pay for his ticket?
If so, I don't think he should just be allowed to decide he's going with someone else - tell him he can see his friends at the game and hang out with them while theyre on holiday but hes travelling with/staying with his dad. If not he doesn't go at all and you take his ticket.
Does the ex-h even want to be responsible for your DS, whom I assume he doesn't know well?

MsBette · 18/02/2025 17:18

Freelll · 18/02/2025 13:52

My holidays were years ago, not when we had children. Also, they were mates, nothing more and nothing else.

Presumably he'd say the same, they're just friends.

You went on holiday, albeit years ago, with male friends whilst your husband was unhappy about it.

No surprise he's doing the same. I think you need to sit down together and agree what is and isn't acceptable in your relationship.

Cottonplease · 18/02/2025 17:13

SouthLondonMum22 · 17/02/2025 23:22

Right. Because she's split with her husband, it means she'll want to shag any man that moves. 🙄

Exactly!😄

ChildrenOfTheQuorn · 18/02/2025 17:06

I'm not a masochist so it 100% would not be happening.

Gogogo12345 · 18/02/2025 16:56

Alaimo · 18/02/2025 13:18

I'm surprised you have time to post here in between all the shagging and emotional cheating that you two are obviously doing.

Lol it would be like shagging my brother. No thx

Butchyrestingface · 18/02/2025 15:40

Freelll · 18/02/2025 13:52

My holidays were years ago, not when we had children. Also, they were mates, nothing more and nothing else.

Well, it seems like your husband has a loooong memory.

Also, he and and this woman are presumably 'mates, nothing more and nothing less' too. So you should be flying the bunting for him.

SigmaStarFlower · 18/02/2025 15:28

If I were you, I would have an honest conversation with your husband about how you feel. If you go along with it, without voicing how you feel as you did when he went with your son, his friend and their mother; your husband and her might plan more trips together when they return from this one. You are in a stronger position now and it will be too late to say anything after the trip! What’s the worst that can happen by speaking up. He needs telling how you feel about this. Xx

AviationGeek · 18/02/2025 14:55

HeyDrake · 18/02/2025 09:03

All of these comments are mental. If he wants to cheat, he would cheat. Could be with someone at work, or a woman at the gym or a waitress or anyone. I bet this other woman, who has committed the ultimate crime in the eyes of married women by actually divorcing, finds your husband repellent. As I find 90% of my friend's husbands.

and what about the 10% you don't find repellent? OPs husband might be in that bucket for this woman.

luckylavender · 18/02/2025 14:52

@SeenYourArse - I thought the whole point of Mumsnet was sharing our opinions. 🤔

AviationGeek · 18/02/2025 14:41

I had a boyfriend who was meant to be spending a week off with me. A couple of weeks before that, he announced he'd decided to go away with a group of friends instead. He left me here and went to Majorca with 26 (yes, 26) girls.

I didn't say anything. What was the point?

Obviously the relationship was over after he got back. He was somewhat puzzled by this and asked if the recent holiday had something to do with it. I said ''yes, but if I have to explain to you what's wrong with that then we're too different to ever meet in the middle''.

FallOfTheHouseOfUtterlyButterly · 18/02/2025 13:53

Freelll · 18/02/2025 13:52

My holidays were years ago, not when we had children. Also, they were mates, nothing more and nothing else.

So you think this woman is something more than a mate then?

Freelll · 18/02/2025 13:52

My holidays were years ago, not when we had children. Also, they were mates, nothing more and nothing else.

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Alaimo · 18/02/2025 13:18

Gogogo12345 · 18/02/2025 07:24

I really don't see the issue. Am currently away with a male friend. What's the big deal

I'm surprised you have time to post here in between all the shagging and emotional cheating that you two are obviously doing.

ArtTheClown · 18/02/2025 12:59

So you are only ever allowed to spend time with your partner?
I can't imagine being in a relationship with someone so controlling and demanding on my time...

I gladly encourage DH to go on days/weekends away with friends to do hobbies - I have for instance no interest in injuring myself hurtling down a steep track on a mountain bike, and I think he'd rather hit his toe with a hammer than join me at book club or for a run.

I would definitely not be cool him going away one on one with another woman though, and he'd feel exactly the same if I wanted to go away with some bloke.
Fortunately, neither of us do as we love each other and like spending most of our precious spare time together.

SouthLondonMum22 · 18/02/2025 12:54

Nonrienderien · 18/02/2025 10:27

I wish the advocates for men & women holidaying together without their spouse could understand its about far more than sex. Having a special emotional relationship with someone else's husband or wife & worse holidaying together is definitely overstepping the normal boundaries of married life. I trust my DH 100% but he would never disrespect me by going off on holiday with another woman nor I with another man. If it works within your unusual relationship it's nobody else's business.

Going on holiday with my best friend who is male is no different to going on holiday with a female friend.

My marriage is also perfectly normal. There's just no insecurity or jealousy which I see as a good thing.

SouthLondonMum22 · 18/02/2025 12:48

KimberleyClark · 18/02/2025 08:41

It’s not controlling to not like the idea of your spouse going on holiday alone with a member of the opposite sex. It’s perfectly normal.

Of course it's controlling if you believe you get a say who your spouse goes on holiday with. It also shows a lack of trust no matter how many times someone may claim it isn't about not trusting them, of course it is.

Lurkingandlearning · 18/02/2025 11:18

I see your point about being a hypocrite but now you know what it feels like there is absolutely nothing wrong with saying you made a mistake and totally understand why he didn’t want you to go on holiday with your male friends. Apologise. You can ask him not to go with her, maybe go with them. If he insists on going with her alone then I think he would be very petty and teaching you a lesson you’ve already learned, punishing you, or maybe hoping to have sex with her.

FallOfTheHouseOfUtterlyButterly · 18/02/2025 11:12

Nonrienderien · 18/02/2025 10:27

I wish the advocates for men & women holidaying together without their spouse could understand its about far more than sex. Having a special emotional relationship with someone else's husband or wife & worse holidaying together is definitely overstepping the normal boundaries of married life. I trust my DH 100% but he would never disrespect me by going off on holiday with another woman nor I with another man. If it works within your unusual relationship it's nobody else's business.

Or, again, you're putting a weird amount of emphasis on things

Why does it matter if they have a "special emotional relationship" outside the marriage. Do you think married people can only have emotional relationships with each other? Why would a friendship of the same sex be different? Would it be different again if it was a gay man he was friends with?

Skipthisbit · 18/02/2025 11:06

SouthLondonMum22 · 18/02/2025 00:22

Yep.

I've been away with my best friend who is male hundreds of times involving things that wouldn't interest my DH, mainly football related. I also didn't shag him and he didn't try to shag me.

Amazing, I know.

Me too. I hate skiing and snow / cold. Husband loves it. He goes with female friend of many years because they both love it. I’ve also been away with male friend who loves arts /city tours without husband.
Somehow we’ve all managed not to shag anyone else because we don’t want to. Imagine that!!

If you genuinely believe that the only thing that stops men or women having affairs is opportunity- firstly you are an idiot and secondly you aren’t in a loving relationship anyway so leave.

Kitchensinktoday · 18/02/2025 10:56

Notmycircusnotmyotter · 18/02/2025 10:53

I wouldn't have this. Hell no.

Me neither. I could only be a Cool Wife if I didn't love my husband

Notmycircusnotmyotter · 18/02/2025 10:53

I wouldn't have this. Hell no.

FriendlyEeyore · 18/02/2025 10:49

Could you warn the other woman your concerned he would be unable to control himself around her?

Nonrienderien · 18/02/2025 10:27

Gogogo12345 · 18/02/2025 07:28

The ones who maybe aren't so insecure and trust their spouses

I wish the advocates for men & women holidaying together without their spouse could understand its about far more than sex. Having a special emotional relationship with someone else's husband or wife & worse holidaying together is definitely overstepping the normal boundaries of married life. I trust my DH 100% but he would never disrespect me by going off on holiday with another woman nor I with another man. If it works within your unusual relationship it's nobody else's business.