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Ask DH to not go on holiday with female friend.

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Freelll · 17/02/2025 21:44

My DH & DS have gone on holiday with DS’s friend and his mother several times in the past. They all share an interest in basketball and travel to the US to watch NBA games.

This year, despite booking tickets, the children have decided they want to travel with the friend’s father instead - the friends parents are divorced. However, my DH & this woman, are still planning to travel to the US together, as the tickets have already been paid for.

I don’t want him to go on holiday with just her; I have never been 100% comfortable with these trips but decided to keep my mouth shut because I’ve gone on holiday with male friends in the past, which my husband was unhappy about. I regret being so blood minded at the time.

Is it reasonable to ask him not to go?

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SouthLondonMum22 · 18/02/2025 01:35

Nonrienderien · 18/02/2025 01:31

Again,of course there is nothing wrong with a business lunch together,or a work related night out with a group. Married couples who are happy with their husbands & wives having close relationships with the opposite sex where they regularly go out together should crack on. I definitely don't think they are the majority though.

After the football related stuff, we'd do other things DH also isn't really interested in such as rock climbing, kayaking etc.

DH and I have our own holidays together, he doesn't need to join me on a friend holiday.

SouthLondonMum22 · 18/02/2025 01:34

Nonrienderien · 18/02/2025 01:31

Again,of course there is nothing wrong with a business lunch together,or a work related night out with a group. Married couples who are happy with their husbands & wives having close relationships with the opposite sex where they regularly go out together should crack on. I definitely don't think they are the majority though.

A lunch is a lunch. What does it matter if it's work related or just because? Especially since it isn't unusual for friends to eat lunch together.

Are you sure you think men and women can be friends? It doesn't sound like it.

Nonrienderien · 18/02/2025 01:31

SouthLondonMum22 · 18/02/2025 01:15

If men and women can be friends, why would they be cavorting about and why would a man and woman eating together automatically be a couple? It's just eating.

Can you only eat with your husband once you get married? I think I missed the memo.

Again,of course there is nothing wrong with a business lunch together,or a work related night out with a group. Married couples who are happy with their husbands & wives having close relationships with the opposite sex where they regularly go out together should crack on. I definitely don't think they are the majority though.

FrauPaige · 18/02/2025 01:20

SouthLondonMum22 · 18/02/2025 01:03

I mean things like holidays.

My best friend is male, I'm not going to avoid going on holiday with him just because he isn't a woman.

When I go away with my best friend, it usually involves football but we make a holiday out of it too. So we'd watch a match and then spend a few days doing activity stuff.

DH hates football and sporty activity things in general so would never want to do that which is fine, we do other things on holiday instead.

My husband and I have differing hobbies and interests too, so I understand your football context - quite similar to my art gallery context.

In my world, a bestie or my husband would fly into Florence for a couple of days for the non-art gallery specific "holidaying" portion.

We are all individuals and these are your boundaries. If it works for you in your marriage, that makes it right.

Treesandsheepeverywhere · 18/02/2025 01:16

Livelovebehappy · 17/02/2025 23:54

Am gobsmacked that 22% think this is okay! On what planet do people think it’s fine that their husband go on holiday with another (single!) female?! Bonkers…

I think some people voted YABU as in that OP can't have it both ways.

If she's holidayed with male friends, why can't her DH go with a female

SouthLondonMum22 · 18/02/2025 01:15

Nonrienderien · 18/02/2025 01:09

Of course men & women can be friends. I have to admit though I'm happy my DH doesn't cavort about with other women going for meals,nights out etc as a couple. It's nothing to do with trust & plenty to do with respecting boundaries within marriage.

If men and women can be friends, why would they be cavorting about and why would a man and woman eating together automatically be a couple? It's just eating.

Can you only eat with your husband once you get married? I think I missed the memo.

SouthLondonMum22 · 18/02/2025 01:13

FallOfTheHouseOfUtterlyButterly · 18/02/2025 01:09

Do you think it happens with other transport too?
s"Oh shit, I've caught a bus with someone I know. Now everyone will think we're having an affair"

😂

FallOfTheHouseOfUtterlyButterly · 18/02/2025 01:13

Nonrienderien · 18/02/2025 01:09

Of course men & women can be friends. I have to admit though I'm happy my DH doesn't cavort about with other women going for meals,nights out etc as a couple. It's nothing to do with trust & plenty to do with respecting boundaries within marriage.

Cavorting 🤣

He's spending time with a friend

Do you go out for meals and holidays with girl friends?

Is he allowed to do the same with boy friends?

It's everything to do with trust. You are saying you don't trust him to spend time with another woman without ripping her clothes off and shagging her over dessert

babyproblems · 18/02/2025 01:10

OneShoeShort · 17/02/2025 22:05

But also I agree with PP that letting the boys back out wouldn't be an option for me for parenting reasons. That's not ok.

Agree. You sound like you get zero say!? Bizarre. I’d be asking if I could have her ticket and if not I’d be going.

Nonrienderien · 18/02/2025 01:09

FallOfTheHouseOfUtterlyButterly · 18/02/2025 01:05

There's a lot of When Harry Met Sally "women and men can never just be friends" going on here

Of course men & women can be friends. I have to admit though I'm happy my DH doesn't cavort about with other women going for meals,nights out etc as a couple. It's nothing to do with trust & plenty to do with respecting boundaries within marriage.

FallOfTheHouseOfUtterlyButterly · 18/02/2025 01:09

SouthLondonMum22 · 18/02/2025 01:07

I thought that was weird too.

Is sharing the same flight supposed to be romantic or something? Because it really isn't, even when I'm with DH. 😂

Do you think it happens with other transport too?
s"Oh shit, I've caught a bus with someone I know. Now everyone will think we're having an affair"

SouthLondonMum22 · 18/02/2025 01:07

FallOfTheHouseOfUtterlyButterly · 18/02/2025 01:03

Or you subscribe extra layers of meaning to every day occurrences

As long as they aren't in the same room, why does the same hotel matter? Why does it matter to eat meals together or catch the same plane on a specific trip to see a specific thing?

I thought that was weird too.

Is sharing the same flight supposed to be romantic or something? Because it really isn't, even when I'm with DH. 😂

FallOfTheHouseOfUtterlyButterly · 18/02/2025 01:05

Serpenting · 18/02/2025 00:13

But why is it mind-boggling? I’ve been to NY with a male friend who shares my enthusiasm for art, and DH sometimes meets a female friend of his for football trips to Rome or Barcelona which would bore me to tears. I certainly haven’t shagged anyone other than DH.

There's a lot of When Harry Met Sally "women and men can never just be friends" going on here

FallOfTheHouseOfUtterlyButterly · 18/02/2025 01:04

What about if your DH wants to go away with a gay friend?

Would that be weird?

After all, his friend is also a man and therefore uncontrollable in his lust?

SouthLondonMum22 · 18/02/2025 01:03

FrauPaige · 18/02/2025 00:54

What do you mean by "going away"? Activity partnership?

Meeting a fellow art lover at the Uffizi Galleries in Florence and discussing the pieces at dinner afterwards, staying in separate hotels - yes.

Doing a motorcycle tour of the Peruvian Andes with an experienced opposite sex rider, pooling navigating, spannering, and language skills - yes.

But getting on the same plane at Heathrow, sitting next to this person, staying in the same room/hotel, eating every meal with this person for days? - nope, way beyond activity partnership, and into the holidaying zone, which I prefer to do with my husband and or family or same sex friends.

I mean things like holidays.

My best friend is male, I'm not going to avoid going on holiday with him just because he isn't a woman.

When I go away with my best friend, it usually involves football but we make a holiday out of it too. So we'd watch a match and then spend a few days doing activity stuff.

DH hates football and sporty activity things in general so would never want to do that which is fine, we do other things on holiday instead.

FallOfTheHouseOfUtterlyButterly · 18/02/2025 01:03

FrauPaige · 18/02/2025 00:54

What do you mean by "going away"? Activity partnership?

Meeting a fellow art lover at the Uffizi Galleries in Florence and discussing the pieces at dinner afterwards, staying in separate hotels - yes.

Doing a motorcycle tour of the Peruvian Andes with an experienced opposite sex rider, pooling navigating, spannering, and language skills - yes.

But getting on the same plane at Heathrow, sitting next to this person, staying in the same room/hotel, eating every meal with this person for days? - nope, way beyond activity partnership, and into the holidaying zone, which I prefer to do with my husband and or family or same sex friends.

Or you subscribe extra layers of meaning to every day occurrences

As long as they aren't in the same room, why does the same hotel matter? Why does it matter to eat meals together or catch the same plane on a specific trip to see a specific thing?

FrauPaige · 18/02/2025 00:54

SouthLondonMum22 · 18/02/2025 00:25

How does it sound like an open marriage?

Going away with my male friend is no different than going away with my female friend. You don't have to be in a romantic relationship with someone to go away with them.

What do you mean by "going away"? Activity partnership?

Meeting a fellow art lover at the Uffizi Galleries in Florence and discussing the pieces at dinner afterwards, staying in separate hotels - yes.

Doing a motorcycle tour of the Peruvian Andes with an experienced opposite sex rider, pooling navigating, spannering, and language skills - yes.

But getting on the same plane at Heathrow, sitting next to this person, staying in the same room/hotel, eating every meal with this person for days? - nope, way beyond activity partnership, and into the holidaying zone, which I prefer to do with my husband and or family or same sex friends.

DurinsBane · 18/02/2025 00:47

Freelll · 17/02/2025 21:44

My DH & DS have gone on holiday with DS’s friend and his mother several times in the past. They all share an interest in basketball and travel to the US to watch NBA games.

This year, despite booking tickets, the children have decided they want to travel with the friend’s father instead - the friends parents are divorced. However, my DH & this woman, are still planning to travel to the US together, as the tickets have already been paid for.

I don’t want him to go on holiday with just her; I have never been 100% comfortable with these trips but decided to keep my mouth shut because I’ve gone on holiday with male friends in the past, which my husband was unhappy about. I regret being so blood minded at the time.

Is it reasonable to ask him not to go?

He shouldn’t be going with just her. By then you shouldn’t have gone with male friends so……

Kneeboobs · 18/02/2025 00:44

You have every right not to like it but no leg to stand on to veto it as you did the same.

SouthLondonMum22 · 18/02/2025 00:39

Nonrienderien · 18/02/2025 00:35

@southLondonMum22 As I mentioned each to their own. I would find it distasteful & disrespectful to my DH if I suggested going away with another man & he wouldn't dream of holidaying with another woman. I almost find laughable.

Edited

Very true.

I'd find it controlling if my DH thought he got a say in who I go on holiday with and I'd assume he didn't trust me and if he didn't trust me then well, what's the point?.

SpryUmberZebra · 18/02/2025 00:36

Vaxtable · 17/02/2025 21:45

Why do t you go with themas well? I would

That would be hell if she has no interests in basketball, having to attend games with people who are ardent fans isn’t fun, and she still needs to work on the core issue of if she has a reason to be concerned.

Nonrienderien · 18/02/2025 00:35

@southLondonMum22 As I mentioned each to their own. I would find it distasteful & disrespectful to my DH if I suggested going away with another man & he wouldn't dream of holidaying with another woman. I almost find laughable.

DRose3 · 18/02/2025 00:30

Could it be that the children don’t want to go with the usual parents, as they don’t feel comfortable with the setup? Children do pickup on things…

Alarm bells - your DH wants to holiday with another woman. This would make me extremely upset, and rightly so.

SouthLondonMum22 · 18/02/2025 00:25

Nonrienderien · 18/02/2025 00:23

I doubt if a poll was taken you would find many women happy to have their husband going off on holiday with another woman,nor men happy for their wives to holiday with another man. Sex or no sex it still sounds more like an open marriage but each to their own.

How does it sound like an open marriage?

Going away with my male friend is no different than going away with my female friend. You don't have to be in a romantic relationship with someone to go away with them.

Nonrienderien · 18/02/2025 00:23

Serpenting · 18/02/2025 00:13

But why is it mind-boggling? I’ve been to NY with a male friend who shares my enthusiasm for art, and DH sometimes meets a female friend of his for football trips to Rome or Barcelona which would bore me to tears. I certainly haven’t shagged anyone other than DH.

I doubt if a poll was taken you would find many women happy to have their husband going off on holiday with another woman,nor men happy for their wives to holiday with another man. Sex or no sex it still sounds more like an open marriage but each to their own.