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I probably am being unreasonable but i need to vent.....

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smileitlightsupyourface · 17/02/2025 21:05

I have an "friend" who is on benefits. She receives universal credit, PIP ( for MS) and has a car on the motability scheme. I know she has MS and has bad days but she lives a very active life...goes to the gym regularly, goes on active days out with the children each week and has a very active social life. This friend has literally never ever worked a job. She had kids young and has always been on benefits. Her dc have expensive hobbies such as horse riding and golf and are also season ticket holders at a premiership football club. She has none of the dc fathers on the scene and her family don't have much to do with them. She is constantly posting pictures on social media of her dc doing their hobbies and expensive days out. They are currently on a very expensive long haul holiday for half term. Its really starting to grate on me that she doesn't work and never has but lives this type of lifestyle while i work full time and as well as being constantly knackered i would struggle to afford her lifestyle. I know im being unreasonable but she seems very tone deaf when posting all this stuff on social media when so many are struggling to pay bills. I really don't want to be bitter but its winding me up!

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TiredTeaBag · 18/02/2025 18:36

Nobody except my husband knows that I receive PIP for exactly the reasons illustrated by your post.

I have chronic multiple autoimmune conditions which cause significant pain and mobility issues. It's hard work doing even really easy things.

But here is the thing. On the really bad days, you simply won't see me. My husband will say, "oh, she's sick" and I stay home confined to bed or needing help for the smallest tasks. I certainly don't share it on social media. People probably think I'm flaky because I appear to often be staying home apparently slightly unwell.

So what people actually see is me on my best days. They don't see my Dr reports, blood tests, weekly injections, multiple daily medications, infusions at the hospital... I share none of this because it's fucking boring and it's not the badge I want people to know me by.

So, because I don't share my illness, I also don't share my PIP eligibility because I would be terrified of being judged for looking healthy or happy at any given time....

Pessismistic · 18/02/2025 18:35

XenoBitch · 18/02/2025 17:50

She will have MS symptoms long before she was actually diagnosed. And OP didn't say why her friend has been on benefits before then. But you just assume she is "milking the system" despite knowing nothing about this lady.

I said people milk the system which they do.

SouthLondonMum22 · 18/02/2025 18:30

CuteEasterBunny · 18/02/2025 17:53

There’s a mum influencer on Instagram and TikTok.
She’s on benefits and PIP.
4 kids multiple fathers
Driving around in a Range Rover and then going on about her healthy start vouchers.

You can tell when it’s benefits day and the shopping hauls are all over her pages. She spent £2k on a media wall recently and lives a life of shopping and holidays, Turkey teeth etc and then out comes the anxiety excuse and how lonely she is when she’s clearly spent all her benefits for the month.

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She's an influencer so clearly has another income stream.

Finnyhaddock · 18/02/2025 18:19

My mum had just died of MS. my aunty is in a care home with it and my daughter also has it.
It's a progressive, disabling terrible disease. If you hear other people slating this woman you need to send them to me.
Unbelievable that people are jealous of a disease that used to be called creeping paralysis.

Leedsfan247 · 18/02/2025 18:08

I have a friend with MS he has a motability car and goes to the gym in it daily. He is desperate to strengthen his muscles as much as he can in an attempt to delay the inevitable. Please don’t judge people with MS whether they’ve worked or not.

anon666 · 18/02/2025 18:05

Yanbu - it's very puzzling to see someone living such a lavish lifestyle without having worked for it at all.

Is there some kind of scam going on, or lottery win, or inheritance?

I wouldn't want MS for the world tho, so if this was a friend I'd probably just be glad for them they're getting some joy out of life before it's too late. Maybe that explains things, but I'm still puzzled how there can be such a big differential between some people on benefits who are genuinely poor and others living the high life. How?

ilovesooty · 18/02/2025 18:00

AngelicKaty · 18/02/2025 17:59

@Pessismistic "I know plenty of people milking the system ...". How do you know they're milking the system? Have they told you they are (in which case you need to mix with better people) or, just like OP, are you making assumptions from the way they appear to be without actually knowing what their lives are like 24/7?

Another one the likes of whom you can't debate with. Referring to @Pessismistic of course.

AngelicKaty · 18/02/2025 17:59

@Pessismistic "I know plenty of people milking the system ...". How do you know they're milking the system? Have they told you they are (in which case you need to mix with better people) or, just like OP, are you making assumptions from the way they appear to be without actually knowing what their lives are like 24/7?

ilovesooty · 18/02/2025 17:58

Pessismistic · 18/02/2025 17:28

I am entitled to my opinion I was responding to the op. She has had ms 2 years been on benefits for 23 years. I know plenty of people milking the system so keep your ffs to yourself.

We have another one who displays ignorance about the diagnosis pathway of life limiting illness. You know plenty of people milking the system? Of course you do. 🙄

CuteEasterBunny · 18/02/2025 17:53

There’s a mum influencer on Instagram and TikTok.
She’s on benefits and PIP.
4 kids multiple fathers
Driving around in a Range Rover and then going on about her healthy start vouchers.

You can tell when it’s benefits day and the shopping hauls are all over her pages. She spent £2k on a media wall recently and lives a life of shopping and holidays, Turkey teeth etc and then out comes the anxiety excuse and how lonely she is when she’s clearly spent all her benefits for the month.

Iamtired123 · 18/02/2025 17:51

With friends like you who needs enemies!

XenoBitch · 18/02/2025 17:50

Pessismistic · 18/02/2025 17:28

I am entitled to my opinion I was responding to the op. She has had ms 2 years been on benefits for 23 years. I know plenty of people milking the system so keep your ffs to yourself.

She will have MS symptoms long before she was actually diagnosed. And OP didn't say why her friend has been on benefits before then. But you just assume she is "milking the system" despite knowing nothing about this lady.

Queenofthejabs · 18/02/2025 17:31

Pessismistic · 18/02/2025 17:28

I am entitled to my opinion I was responding to the op. She has had ms 2 years been on benefits for 23 years. I know plenty of people milking the system so keep your ffs to yourself.

You were being harsh though, you’ve no idea why this woman was on benefits since 16,you’re just making assumptions like the op due to jelousy. You ve no idea if it’s true, her personal cricumstances, anything, you’ve just seen benefits and holidays and jumped.

Pessismistic · 18/02/2025 17:28

XenoBitch · 17/02/2025 22:56

Milking the system? FFS, she has MS. She is not going to make old bones, and her life leading up to then is just going to be increasingly limited in terms of what she can do. People with MS go to Dignitas.

I am entitled to my opinion I was responding to the op. She has had ms 2 years been on benefits for 23 years. I know plenty of people milking the system so keep your ffs to yourself.

Sunnydiary · 18/02/2025 16:34

Seriously @smileitlightsupyourface what the fuck is WRONG with you?

Jealous of a single parent with MS?

Look at yourself.

rosalynd34 · 18/02/2025 15:58

I have to say this thread has been awesome for me so thank you OP for your sheer ignorance and lack of awareness.

I live day to day with worry about judgement because of my rare good days, in case I come across too healthy and happen to enjoy myself so much that someone narrow minded like yourself would judge me.

Unfortunately in the past ive been ridiculed by family for having to use a wheelchair and also talked about for days where I felt strong enough to try without it. I feel judged when I'm well enough to venture out on a day out, judged by people for having to use the benefits system. I stress on my bad days because all I want is to consistently be well enough to work, to do anything, to feel like I can contribute and not feel so useless. I feel bad for having good days, like I'm a fraud, but lately they have been so few and far between.

But this thread has shown me for every misinformed, judgey, bitchy person, there are 10s who understand, who won't judge and they do get it. I think those who understand dont voice it and so all we hear is the nasty or ill informed voices, online, in person and mostly in the media. So it's so easy to get down on yourself for being ill, even though none of us would choose this. But I really do appreciate hearing how many do get it, so thank you.

Next time I feel judged, I will remember all those who do get it and remember that, at least on mumsnet, these people were in the minority.

WalkingonWheels · 18/02/2025 15:56

ilovesooty · 18/02/2025 15:31

Mind you I haven't reported it. People like her need to be seen for what they are.

I reported it, but, and here's a surprise... It's still there.

You're right, though. It lets people see who they really are.

ilovesooty · 18/02/2025 15:31

WalkingonWheels · 18/02/2025 14:48

Someone with Multiple Sclerosis is a slacking grifter?

Just, wow. How do you sleep at night, knowing what a disgusting, appalling person you are?

And Mumsnet - why is hate speech about other protected characteristics removed, but disabled people, covered under the same law, are fair game?

Mind you I haven't reported it. People like her need to be seen for what they are.

ilovesooty · 18/02/2025 15:30

WalkingonWheels · 18/02/2025 14:48

Someone with Multiple Sclerosis is a slacking grifter?

Just, wow. How do you sleep at night, knowing what a disgusting, appalling person you are?

And Mumsnet - why is hate speech about other protected characteristics removed, but disabled people, covered under the same law, are fair game?

It's a dreadful comment. Unsurprising, sadly.

WalkingonWheels · 18/02/2025 14:48

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Someone with Multiple Sclerosis is a slacking grifter?

Just, wow. How do you sleep at night, knowing what a disgusting, appalling person you are?

And Mumsnet - why is hate speech about other protected characteristics removed, but disabled people, covered under the same law, are fair game?

Cornflakes123 · 18/02/2025 13:58

You sound extremely ignorant and nasty. Do you know much about MS?

ilovesooty · 18/02/2025 13:55

AngelicKaty · 18/02/2025 13:36

@smileitlightsupyourface And there's a further alternative to the above options OP: you could take on board what the overwhelming majority on here are telling you (in particular, the very personal stories of the reality of living with disabilities) and join in the bitches' conversations explaining to them how ignorant they are and how much you've learned about the subject recently (assuming you've learned anything at all, of course).
I still can't get my head around the premise of this thread - slagging off a disabled person - honestly, you can't get much lower than that OP.

It hasn't stopped the odd ignorant poster joining in. Some people are just so keen to benefit bash they show how misinformed and lacking in empathy they are. They pop up on all sorts of threads to spew the same bile.

ruethewhirl · 18/02/2025 13:55

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You do realise your mouth is for talking out of and your arse is for farting out of, right? Because you seem to have it back to front...

alwaysdeleteyourcookies · 18/02/2025 13:47

sparrowhae · 18/02/2025 11:23

Thank you, I know I sound a bit moany but I can't talk to anyone about it in real life. I do get on with it. Thanks for the virtual hug (weak one back at you) 😀😊

Very similar here. One day (sometimes one hour) at the time... and you didn't moan at all.

AngelicKaty · 18/02/2025 13:36

toomuchfaff · 18/02/2025 11:34

You feel this resentful because your envious.

Make no mistake, you are not just venting, if you don't like seeing her updates, then don't fkin stalk her. Butt out of her life, don't listen when others talk about her, it's that simple.

Or choose to join in and be just as hateful, because they are all horrible people too, just because they are "all" doing it, doesn't make it right.

@smileitlightsupyourface And there's a further alternative to the above options OP: you could take on board what the overwhelming majority on here are telling you (in particular, the very personal stories of the reality of living with disabilities) and join in the bitches' conversations explaining to them how ignorant they are and how much you've learned about the subject recently (assuming you've learned anything at all, of course).
I still can't get my head around the premise of this thread - slagging off a disabled person - honestly, you can't get much lower than that OP.

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