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I probably am being unreasonable but i need to vent.....

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smileitlightsupyourface · 17/02/2025 21:05

I have an "friend" who is on benefits. She receives universal credit, PIP ( for MS) and has a car on the motability scheme. I know she has MS and has bad days but she lives a very active life...goes to the gym regularly, goes on active days out with the children each week and has a very active social life. This friend has literally never ever worked a job. She had kids young and has always been on benefits. Her dc have expensive hobbies such as horse riding and golf and are also season ticket holders at a premiership football club. She has none of the dc fathers on the scene and her family don't have much to do with them. She is constantly posting pictures on social media of her dc doing their hobbies and expensive days out. They are currently on a very expensive long haul holiday for half term. Its really starting to grate on me that she doesn't work and never has but lives this type of lifestyle while i work full time and as well as being constantly knackered i would struggle to afford her lifestyle. I know im being unreasonable but she seems very tone deaf when posting all this stuff on social media when so many are struggling to pay bills. I really don't want to be bitter but its winding me up!

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Queenofthejabs · 17/02/2025 22:07

smileitlightsupyourface · 17/02/2025 21:59

Not true at all! If I wanted to " bitch" i would have used the terms that i have heard being said about her by others! I just wanted to vent and understand why i felt this resentful

You just randomly heard these bitchy comments and weren’t enthusiastically joining in? Sure.

you are so jealous of this woman, it’s become like an obsession to you, so I’m guessing she isn’t the first woman you’ve been jealous of.

so this is about you,

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 17/02/2025 22:06

It’s either-

  1. maintenance from the dads
  2. debt on credit cards
  3. an income stream you don’t know about - inheritance, some sort of win, some sort of non- employed work

that’s paying for this.

It’s not going to be benefits.

Also, it’s very weird and lacking in imagination to be jealous of a single Mum with a disability - I’m sure you don’t want to swap! Or wouldn’t if you knew what MS is like.

Normallynumb · 17/02/2025 22:06

Perhaps you could ask to swap her MS so you can really tell what her good days are like?
I have enhanced rates of PIP due to CP
Fancy a walk in my shoes?

YoungGunsHavingSomeFunCrazyLadiesKeepEmOnTheRun · 17/02/2025 22:05

Yanbu op.

When I got cancer and then had a stroke, I was absolutely delighted, a life on disability benefits is amazing, sometimes I just light (expensive) candles with £20 notes because I don't know what to do with all this money.

Fencehedge · 17/02/2025 22:05

Perhaps if we all pretend we can't hear, it might go away...

AngelicKaty · 17/02/2025 22:05

BulbousFrog · 17/02/2025 21:43

I'm going to chime in here as someone who is a single parent with MS. To the outside I might look really "healthy" and "active". I go to the gym 3 times a week for example. If I didn't, I'd be much, much more disabled than I am. It's a degenerative, progressive illness so you either use it or loose it (for ever). So yes, I walk places when I could get the bus etc. because if I don't, it will speed up the day when I can't walk at all.

But to compensate, behind closed doors it's my teen DC that do the laundry, cook dinner several nights a week, I pay for a cleaner, and I need to rest a lot. I'm in constant neuropathic pain. Out of nowhere I can loose the sight in one eye for months at a time. There's never any guarantee that it will always come back in any functional way, and it's definitely very far from fully recovered after the last time. I'm really lucky that I can work part time from home.

So that's why people with MS get PIP. Even disabled people can keep fit and healthy, as much as possible.

I'm really sorry you're living with this, but pleased to hear you're doing all you can to stay healthier longer and you have great support from your DC. You paint a very clear picture of what living with a disability (specifically, MS) is like and I think one of the things that people on the outside looking in don't appreciate is the pain, which can be exhausting. I honestly don't understand anyone resenting a disabled person receiving welfare benefits and I hope this isn't your experience within your own social circle. Stay well. 🤗

elliejjtiny · 17/02/2025 22:05

Please don't be jealous of her. Lots of people post on social media and look like they are having a great time when in reality they are not. Do you know much about MS? I do. Most likely by the time she is 40 she will be falling over a lot and people will judge her, assuming she is drunk. She will increasingly need more and more care until she dies. Her dc may become young carers. She will probably attend her dc weddings in a wheelchair. She won't be able to be an active grandparent, she may not even be able to hold her first grandchild. She will probably die before she is 70. No amount of expensive hobbies are going to make up for her children not having their mum around when they are adults. And don't forget their mum is already the only present parent they have.

Theunamedcat · 17/02/2025 22:04

Your disabalist and nasty

If the government stopped supporting disabled people with benefits you would still be no better off they don't even know who you are they don't care all they care about is making you crap on people worse off than you and causing a divide

Patterncarmen · 17/02/2025 22:04

Crikey OP, she has MS. Be grateful you don’t have a chronic disease. Here is a sampling of what she is dealing with (from the NHS)

There are lots of possible symptoms of multiple sclerosis (MS). Everyone with the condition is affected differently.
Some of the most common symptoms include:

  • feeling extremely tired (fatigue)
  • problems with your eyes or your vision, such as blurred vision or eye pain
  • numbness or a tingling feeling in different parts of the body
  • feeling off balance, dizzy or clumsy (uncoordinated)
  • muscle cramps, spasms and stiffness
  • needing to pee more often or not being able to control when you pee
  • problems with memory or concentration
  • sexual problems, including a dry vagina or erection problems
Symptoms may come (called "flare-ups" or "relapses") and go (called "remissions"), and may get worse over time.

She’s living the best she can between flare ups.

MurdoMunro · 17/02/2025 22:04

smileitlightsupyourface · 17/02/2025 22:01

Where did i mention that she had only two kids?

2, 5, 15. The numbers still don’t stack up. It’s bollocks

InWalksBarberalla · 17/02/2025 22:04

smileitlightsupyourface · 17/02/2025 21:59

Not true at all! If I wanted to " bitch" i would have used the terms that i have heard being said about her by others! I just wanted to vent and understand why i felt this resentful

I think you need to stop focusing on her curated social media portrayal of her life and focus on your own life. What are you not happy with, what are your options? Can you re train and find a better job, do you just need to prioritise more exercise and outdoor time for your family, etc.

smileitlightsupyourface · 17/02/2025 22:03

@Pigeonqueen people can't help being disabled and never working. The person im talking about has only had her illness for two years but has been on benefits since leaving school at 16 ( she is now 39). She has never worked through choice not because of her disability.

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Normallynumb · 17/02/2025 22:03

FFS Another one about benefits
Nose out... You're no friend

Smith111 · 17/02/2025 22:03

smileitlightsupyourface · 17/02/2025 21:05

I have an "friend" who is on benefits. She receives universal credit, PIP ( for MS) and has a car on the motability scheme. I know she has MS and has bad days but she lives a very active life...goes to the gym regularly, goes on active days out with the children each week and has a very active social life. This friend has literally never ever worked a job. She had kids young and has always been on benefits. Her dc have expensive hobbies such as horse riding and golf and are also season ticket holders at a premiership football club. She has none of the dc fathers on the scene and her family don't have much to do with them. She is constantly posting pictures on social media of her dc doing their hobbies and expensive days out. They are currently on a very expensive long haul holiday for half term. Its really starting to grate on me that she doesn't work and never has but lives this type of lifestyle while i work full time and as well as being constantly knackered i would struggle to afford her lifestyle. I know im being unreasonable but she seems very tone deaf when posting all this stuff on social media when so many are struggling to pay bills. I really don't want to be bitter but its winding me up!

I get where you're coming from it's tough to see someone living that kind of lifestyle when you're working hard and still struggling. It's easy to feel frustrated when things seem unfair, especially with social media showing only the highlights. But try to remember, you don't know everything going on in her life behind the scenes. Maybe it's not all as perfect as it seems. At the end of the day, focus on your own path and what makes you happy. You're doing your best, and that’s what matters.

NippyNinjaCrab · 17/02/2025 22:03

myplace · 17/02/2025 21:18

If she has MS, then she’s making the most of her healthy years.

Yep exactly this, have a word with yourself lady! Here, have my pain I've got right now for about an hour. I hope she's living her best life ever before MS fucks her body completely.

toomuchfaff · 17/02/2025 22:02

Someone else said it; you're not her friend.

Stop looking at her life, stop following her, look in a mirror, envy isn't your friend.

Will you be happier when she progresses her MS? Stop bitching, stop being envious and do her a favour and distance yourself.

BeMoreAmandaland · 17/02/2025 22:02

smileitlightsupyourface · 17/02/2025 21:57

I know she can't help being poorly and would obviously rather she didn't have her illness ( she was diagnosed 2 years ago) i think what gets me is that shes taken so much from a system that she has never ever contributed to and probably never will contribute to. Her eldest dc has now had a dc and is also living on benefits.

WOW

That's socialism, and she still contributes to the economy in vital ways. Benefits in reality are pretty poor and you have to jump through intrusive & humiliating hoops for them, but they save people too ill to work from destitution.

Your own life could change in a moment and you'd find you need them yourself.

As someone else has said, the motability scheme doesn't give people free cars and remains expensive for those who participate.

Also benefit fraud is less than <1%

101Nutella · 17/02/2025 22:02

This is not very nice. This woman could die suddenly and also will likely have a shortened life as a result.
and you begrudge her for making the most of the time she has with her family?

i wouldn’t believe everything you see on social media.

Pigeonqueen · 17/02/2025 22:01

smileitlightsupyourface · 17/02/2025 21:57

I know she can't help being poorly and would obviously rather she didn't have her illness ( she was diagnosed 2 years ago) i think what gets me is that shes taken so much from a system that she has never ever contributed to and probably never will contribute to. Her eldest dc has now had a dc and is also living on benefits.

You do realise that some people are so disabled they will never work and never “contribute” as you so nicely put it. Maybe we should all just euthanise them like the Nazis did… 🙄🙄

You don’t sound very nice op. It’s a telling sign of how content you are with your own life to so enthusiastically launch an attack on someone else’s.

smileitlightsupyourface · 17/02/2025 22:01

MurdoMunro · 17/02/2025 21:59

Do people really believe this? That a single parent with two kids can fund all their housing, food, electric, clothing plus ponies, golf and premiership football on benefits. Putting aside the MS for a minute and the implications of that. Honestly, are people really so fucking thick as to believe that this is true? Come on OP, for fucks sake.

Can we go back to the days of it just being about the big telly. Please.

Edited

Where did i mention that she had only two kids?

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Ger1atricMillennial · 17/02/2025 22:00

OP I get it, its normal and reasonable to be envious of people who you percieve to have more than you.

I also know that you wouldn't actually swap lives with her.

I deleted my FB a few years ago, and I deleted Insta about 6 months ago after bursting into tears when it told me that my pension was 10% of what it should be at my age. My life is so much better, less stressful that I can just concentrate on myself.

Ph3 · 17/02/2025 22:00

ilovesooty · 17/02/2025 21:57

PIP isn't means tested.

Oh I see I didn’t realise that. Thank you for clarifying

MurdoMunro · 17/02/2025 21:59

Do people really believe this? That a single parent with two kids can fund all their housing, food, electric, clothing plus ponies, golf and premiership football on benefits. Putting aside the MS for a minute and the implications of that. Honestly, are people really so fucking thick as to believe that this is true? Come on OP, for fucks sake.

Can we go back to the days of it just being about the big telly. Please.

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anyolddinosaur · 17/02/2025 21:59

MS is a progressive illness, I would rather be healthy than sick and needing benefits.

Hobbies maybe but long haul holidays - not possible on benefit payments.

I used to vaguely know someone who entered a lot of competitions and won holidays and other things like Christmas hampers. They were willing to make fools of themselves and concentrated on that sort of competition. So maybe they've done that or maybe you're making this up.