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To think a lot of horse owners don't deserve their animals?

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Goodnurseorgremlin · 16/02/2025 21:20

I keep my horse on a DIY livery yard. We have access to daily turnout with no time restrictions throughout the entire winter.

For the last three months the vast majority of the horses on the yard have had little to no turnout. Some literally stand in their stables for days/weeks at a time, with the owners mucking out around them. I could count on one hand the horses that are regularly turned out aside from my own

It just makes me so so sad. These poor animals being imprisoned for months at a time for no good reason. The owners basically can't be arsed to turn out and bring in because they don't want to walk to the fields or get themselves/their horses muddy.

AIBU to think these people don't deserve the privilege of caring for these amazing animals if they can't even be arsed to meet their basic need for freedom?

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elastamum · 16/02/2025 21:47

That's why I built my own yard. Ours are on daily turn out with hay in the winter. They are out at least 5 hours a day. Clipped and rugged and as happy as larks. They live out from April to October coming in for a snooze in the day if it is hot or flies are bad. They are all very chilled.

SabrinaThwaite · 16/02/2025 21:43

On DIY livery we used to have them out during the day in winter and in overnight, and out most of the time in summer - maybe in during during the day if was very hot or if flies were bothering them (used to get nasty little black flies in their ears).

Bambam2019 · 16/02/2025 21:40

Yep! Sometimes I would love amazing facilities that come with some yards but my horse is in a rented field so 24/7 turnout with natural shelter and a field shelter that we built and hay as required. In a small herd. It makes riding through the winter a bit awkward, but she’s not remotely bothered, and the days I can ride it means she’s not wild because she’s been stood in a box for days on end.

Goodnurseorgremlin · 16/02/2025 21:36

@Needanewnameidea Yes they'll ride and complain the horse is 'naughty' when they do🙈🙈

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Goodnurseorgremlin · 16/02/2025 21:35

@bellsend I don't get people bringing in for night in summer (unless for health reasons) My boy is out for the summer as early as allowed. I'm counting down the days🤣

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Needanewnameidea · 16/02/2025 21:34

It ought to be regarded as animal cruelty, equivalent to keeping a dog in a crate all day every day. Unless medically necessary (and even then I think if they’re on box rest for long periods there’s an argument to consider if that’s fair to put them through) they should have access to turnout daily, ideally with others. Not every horse will want to be out for long and not every horse plays nicely with others, but it should at least be tried for. And if for some reason field turnout isn’t feasible for periods (flooding etc) then they need other exercise and stimulation.

If you can’t cope with mud or your horse being muddy you simply shouldn’t have horses. I bet those owners then think it’s appropriate to ride the horse that’s stood doing nothing all week too…

Goodnurseorgremlin · 16/02/2025 21:33

@Ineedanewsofa I've never been on a yard that didn't allow all year turnout. They do exist I promise 🙈

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Goodnurseorgremlin · 16/02/2025 21:32

@lammasEve Well some of the owners only come to see them once a day! I've had horses nearly all my life and never known anything like it!!

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Ineedanewsofa · 16/02/2025 21:29

Where is this mythical yard with unrestricted winter turnout?!
It’s so frickin wet here most yard owners are insisting the horses are in, we are lucky that our yard is still allowing morning turnout (8-1)
But I agree that unless advised by a vet (or due to yard owner decree!) all horses should be allowed to be horses and out as much as possible with adequate rugs and shelter

ChancesAreLow · 16/02/2025 21:29

sanityisamyth · 16/02/2025 21:28

It means putting them in the field for exercise, fresh air and grazing.

Thank you!

That seems cruel to not do that at least once a day.

A dog is treated better.

bellsend · 16/02/2025 21:28

I was once basically held hostage to this when my old boy was pts. My younger one was in a field with two others, belonging to one lady. She brought them in every single afternoon for the night, no matter the weather or time of year. Which meant I either had to leave my young boy distressed on his own or stable him too! Couldn’t get out of that place quick enough, it was awful.
she also majorly over rugged hers in the winter but that’s another story

sanityisamyth · 16/02/2025 21:28

ChancesAreLow · 16/02/2025 21:26

Does turn them out mean taking them out?

It means putting them in the field for exercise, fresh air and grazing.

ChancesAreLow · 16/02/2025 21:26

Does turn them out mean taking them out?

LammasEve · 16/02/2025 21:25

I agree 100%, they should get toy ones if they can't be bothered to turn them out. My main concern when looking for somewhere for my horses is as much turnout as I want for them, with no restrictions regardless of weather. Ok, mine look like they're semi feral at the moment but they live out 24/7 which they are very happy with.

Surely it's easier to turn them out than have to cope with the extra mucking and stressed horses, too?

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