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To think the Ofsted inspector who blames WFH parents for low attendance is probably just resentful?

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JandamiHash · 16/02/2025 14:28

The Chief Inspector of Ofsted is blaming parents who WFH for the demise of school attendance https://www.itv.com/news/2025-02-16/parents-working-from-home-makes-children-feel-school-is-optional-ofsted-head?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR0ULgukQnTsabNTlcJRBI4kVQsMYkhCPK_KA4lUAgVkxOocYfo3onmRNHU_aem_nuBknA_QEGgfA93CaTPagg. Apparently none of us want to take our slippers off so we let our kids stay at home while we work.

He makes some REALLY weird points like his overworked dad he didn’t see much as his inspiration to go to school. And also MPs making sure they spend weekends with their families is a bad work ethic.

I know MN is a good example of whenever WFH threads are brought up, non-WFHers come on dripping with resentment over WFH and implying WFHers don’t really work. AIBU to think this man - who has somehow been knighted - is basically doing that? I’m not sure how much inspecting he does now, but Ofsted inspectors aren’t any superior or harder working just because they spend a few days working away from home at a time (something BTW I’m expected to do, at least 1 overnight a month).

Also as someone from a household where 2 of us WFH, I can’t think of anything worse than having kids flapping around us while we try and work. I’m FT, and this week I’m off Weds-Fri, as is DH. my DD11 will be at home tomorrow with strict instructions to keep away unless there’s a serious emergency (she’s secondary and old enough to take care of herself) and at a friend’s on Tuesday. My DS is 8 and is going into a holiday club tomorrow and Tuesday as his neediness is unbearable. Both have somewhere between 97 and 99% attendance so far this academic year.

YABU - “He’s got a point”
YANBU - “He’s wrong/resentful”

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Britishsavoy · 17/02/2025 08:03

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unlimiteddilutingjuice · 17/02/2025 08:01

The comment about Westminster clearing out on Thursday night is very ignorant.
Friday is the day that MPs generally do constituency stuff.
So on Thursday afternoon they'll be travelling back to their constituencies (some hundreds of mikes away).
On Fridays they'll be running advice surgeries, catching up with constituency staff, going to meetings about local issues etc.
It's not a day off to piss about.

PixiePonies · 17/02/2025 07:47

JustMyView13 · 16/02/2025 15:03

It’s probably got more to do with schools closing over Covid, kids being abandoned in a lot of cases (from an education standpoint), schools closing on strike days.

Marketing the importance of attending school is somewhat undermined when the schools themselves seemingly close ‘when it suits’.

Agreed.

i have actually read the full article. In terms of the new report card - I agree with what he says. Frankly the unions seem to want no report cards at all except one saying ‘fabulous of course’.

on the WFH - the stats in the article for not ‘support’ him. They are meaningless. Correlation does not equal causation. He has not identified the cause - he’s just got an opinion.

BlueSilverCats · 17/02/2025 07:29

Oliver said several other factors were also affecting attendance, including poor mental health, such as anxiety and depression,and a lack of funding for services such as school nurses and child psychologists, as well as difficulties luring children away from their screens.

I love how this is just one paragraph, and no mention of physical health and waiting times for diagnosis/treatment (for all types of health), but going on and on about parents in their slippers being a bad example.

Yeah, it's all bollocks.

soupyspoon · 17/02/2025 07:25

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How is that relevant?

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Lessexpected · 16/02/2025 23:43

Theunamedcat · 16/02/2025 23:29

In years past it was the norm for one parent to work and one to stay home what was attendance like back then?

This is my problem with the war on WFH. In years past, fewer women had big jobs. We need big jobs now to pay half mortgage. Plus everything costs more. My school has just asked us for two trips to bloody theme
parks. Zero educational value but £100+ required to foot the bill. We’re all killing ourselves to work more but yet it’s impossible without an element of WFH and flexibility. But schools and all these so-called ‘important people’ now want to take that off us too!

Lessexpected · 16/02/2025 23:36

2024YR4 · 16/02/2025 14:44

Perhaps parents who WFH or are SAHP are just able to keep their dc off when necessary rather than sending ill children to school? Looking at some schools info sheets on when to send dc in it seems they want them in when not well at all. Maybe the focus needs to be on why schools have these ridiculous targets and expectations for children to be in unwell (when they won’t be receptive to learning anyway ?)

100% this. Normalise being ill and staying home because a parent has used their own judgement. I’m sick of being harassed by the school to fill in forms and then take further phone calls even though I’ve done the forms in first instance in a timely fashion. I only keep my child off if they’re sick!

Theunamedcat · 16/02/2025 23:29

In years past it was the norm for one parent to work and one to stay home what was attendance like back then?

ThePartingOfTheWays · 16/02/2025 22:54

BustopherPonsonbyJones · 16/02/2025 22:27

But ‘Cos Covid’ really doesn’t cut it now. It’s a poor excuse. Will we have adults refusing to work because they couldn’t go to school for a term and a half when they were in Year 2? The country’s finances won’t stand for it, hence the hardening of attitudes.

It's immaterial whether anyone thinks it's a poor excuse. Don't conflate should and is.

If I'm wrong about the change in social contract, I'm wrong because I've misidentified that, not because someone isn't happy about the implications.

I don't know what long term impact this might have. There's clearly no automatic statute of limitations on shifts in social attitudes, though. Neither is a view that national finances require higher school attendance going to do anything to change parental attitudes in itself.

BustopherPonsonbyJones · 16/02/2025 22:27

ThePartingOfTheWays · 16/02/2025 18:31

Yeah, we can. Because that's what happened. Primary school children's attendance is primarily dictated by the parents, and parents not only remember but continue to absorb existing and ongoing cultural attitudes.

But ‘Cos Covid’ really doesn’t cut it now. It’s a poor excuse. Will we have adults refusing to work because they couldn’t go to school for a term and a half when they were in Year 2? The country’s finances won’t stand for it, hence the hardening of attitudes.

BustopherPonsonbyJones · 16/02/2025 22:21

JandamiHash · 16/02/2025 18:28

I don’t think we can blame it for kids under what 8, but for older kids and teens it had a huge impact - which it was always going to do, but the support to address this was never put in place.

I don’t think so. It really means very little to them now. In fact the ‘children’ who feel they were impacted are now at university. I would move on from focusing on the impact of Covid and perceived issues with parents working from home and have a good, hard look on the impact of technology on children. It is affecting concentration, behaviour, energy and even levels of anxiety. All of these lead to children underperforming in schools and maybe even a rise in absence (in my opinion).

Treesandsheepeverywhere · 16/02/2025 21:55

BitOutOfPractice · 16/02/2025 15:18

There must be three threads a day on mn full of WFH-ers frantically telling us how much more productive they are at home 🤔

😅, so true. Whilst in bed, updating MN about their very important jobs at every opportunity.

Newname85 · 16/02/2025 21:29

He is an idiot.

  1. a lot of children had/have a stay at home parent. so? Is that encouraging truancy!?
  2. Its actually very stressful to work with a child to take care
smilingeleanor · 16/02/2025 21:27

a huge proportion of the listed workforce are homebased workers and have been for years before the pandemic

really strange sentiment

HeyDrake · 16/02/2025 21:09

I don't know one person who works from home who doesn't use it to reduce the amount that's childcare they need. Literally anyone would do the same.

ThePartingOfTheWays · 16/02/2025 20:54

Greentiles67 · 16/02/2025 20:39

If you don't WFH there isn't the option to have your DC with you. So you have to take a day off.
WFH parents seem to attempt to carry on WFH with a child who is poorly, and doesn't have to take leave (be that annual leave, lieu, unpaid etc).
Seen it in my workplace. And I'm an absolute nightmare if you try to tell me you need to 'WFH tomorrow as no childcare' no.. you need to book the day off.

If the point here is WFH enables parents more flexibility so they therefore are more inclined to keep a child at home, then there is a point to the article.

The second sentence doesn't follow the first. People often have family locally, or a part time parent who's not in that day, or a SAHP. They might work outside the home, but do shifts. As a pp pointed out, this assumption is underpinned by the idea that work is always Monday to Friday, 9 to 5.

whippy1981 · 16/02/2025 20:45

JustMyView13 · 16/02/2025 20:13

I don’t like it? Whose making assumptions now… 👀👀

Well you're doing everything you can to avoid it! If you liked it you would answer but you keep on deflecting.

Greentiles67 · 16/02/2025 20:39

If you don't WFH there isn't the option to have your DC with you. So you have to take a day off.
WFH parents seem to attempt to carry on WFH with a child who is poorly, and doesn't have to take leave (be that annual leave, lieu, unpaid etc).
Seen it in my workplace. And I'm an absolute nightmare if you try to tell me you need to 'WFH tomorrow as no childcare' no.. you need to book the day off.

If the point here is WFH enables parents more flexibility so they therefore are more inclined to keep a child at home, then there is a point to the article.

JandamiHash · 16/02/2025 20:38

Matronic6 · 16/02/2025 20:38

Sorry it wasn't you. I meant to put PP but automatically did autocorrect.

Haha I was like OMG what have I done now 😂

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Matronic6 · 16/02/2025 20:38

JandamiHash · 16/02/2025 20:34

Sorry I didn’t realise I was involved in this - I don’t think I said anything about kids of teachers either way??

Sorry it wasn't you. I meant to put PP but automatically did autocorrect.

JandamiHash · 16/02/2025 20:34

Matronic6 · 16/02/2025 20:29

But there is no point in answering your questions as they are nonsensical. OP said she did not think kids of teachers will have poor attendance. You then said that meant she assumed kids of teachers don't have mental health issues. OP never said that, you are putting words in her mouth then expecting her to justify something she never said.

She then commented that you were taking this very personally and you said she was wrong to assume you were a parent. OP never said you were a parent.

She is not deflecting, you are arguing with yourself at this point. There is literally no point in engaging with you

Sorry I didn’t realise I was involved in this - I don’t think I said anything about kids of teachers either way??

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JandamiHash · 16/02/2025 20:33

Fines aren’t issued for authorised absences though?

I think I’ve been super lucky with the schools my DC are at. I work with the primary on DS’s medical needs and whilst I know his attendance dipped below 95% last academic year due to hospital stays and spells of pain, I never got a letter about it. And DD had her first sickness absence of secondary (she’s in year 7) when she knocked her front tooth out and needed surgery to put a false one in. They were very much “Oh god poor DD send our love and take as long as she needs”. She actually only needed a couple of days. I hear horror stories of schools going batshit over a couple of days absence all the time though.

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