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To think the Ofsted inspector who blames WFH parents for low attendance is probably just resentful?

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JandamiHash · 16/02/2025 14:28

The Chief Inspector of Ofsted is blaming parents who WFH for the demise of school attendance https://www.itv.com/news/2025-02-16/parents-working-from-home-makes-children-feel-school-is-optional-ofsted-head?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR0ULgukQnTsabNTlcJRBI4kVQsMYkhCPK_KA4lUAgVkxOocYfo3onmRNHU_aem_nuBknA_QEGgfA93CaTPagg. Apparently none of us want to take our slippers off so we let our kids stay at home while we work.

He makes some REALLY weird points like his overworked dad he didn’t see much as his inspiration to go to school. And also MPs making sure they spend weekends with their families is a bad work ethic.

I know MN is a good example of whenever WFH threads are brought up, non-WFHers come on dripping with resentment over WFH and implying WFHers don’t really work. AIBU to think this man - who has somehow been knighted - is basically doing that? I’m not sure how much inspecting he does now, but Ofsted inspectors aren’t any superior or harder working just because they spend a few days working away from home at a time (something BTW I’m expected to do, at least 1 overnight a month).

Also as someone from a household where 2 of us WFH, I can’t think of anything worse than having kids flapping around us while we try and work. I’m FT, and this week I’m off Weds-Fri, as is DH. my DD11 will be at home tomorrow with strict instructions to keep away unless there’s a serious emergency (she’s secondary and old enough to take care of herself) and at a friend’s on Tuesday. My DS is 8 and is going into a holiday club tomorrow and Tuesday as his neediness is unbearable. Both have somewhere between 97 and 99% attendance so far this academic year.

YABU - “He’s got a point”
YANBU - “He’s wrong/resentful”

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KatherineE · 17/02/2025 23:20

I completely agree with the OP.
I was at home, not working (either from home or an office) for 12 years with my young children. Spent every day with my "slippers on" being a SAHM through choice (and i acknowledge the privilege of that choice). My children attended school despite my slipper wearing fetish.
Now my children are 10 and 13 and I have enthusiastically returned to work (4 days) and I do most of my working week from home.
My attitude has always been, and remains, that attending school is in the best interest of our children. If they are ill and cannot attend, then of course we make arrangements between us to ensure they can be looked after. If they are well then they go to school. They have always had attendance well above 95%.
Pretty straightforward stuff and not influenced in any way by my office and bank of monitors being in our home rather than a few miles down the road.
I'm astonished at the reductive nonsense being spouted by someone that has this level of influence in education. That he can put out this drivel without any data to give credibility to his claims simply undermines Ofsted. Given the reputational damage they have suffered recently I'm surprised this interview was given the green light.
This issue is far more complex than Mr Slippers wishes to acknowledge. Those with a background in education/social care will likely agree.

PorridgeEater · 17/02/2025 23:17

StripyHorse · 16/02/2025 14:40

I think there will be a VERY small increase in children staying off when parents WFH, and they will be the children who should be off.

It is not unheard of for children to be sent in to school when they are ill and shouldn't be there - for example children who reveal they were sick that morning but mummy and daddy have to work. If parents can keep their child off in those circumstances- great!

This.
(And Ofsted inspectors say all sorts of things - you have to make your own judgement - I wouldn't describe this as resentful).

BlueSilverCats · 17/02/2025 22:42

@pollymere there is no study!

There's an article with a bloke's opinion and not much to support it.

Jumpers4goalposts · 17/02/2025 22:11

I WFH 90% of the time, my children have 100% attendance since September. I couldn’t think of anything worse than trying to work with the kids about.

Mielikki · 17/02/2025 22:07

Does he make the same assertions about SAHPs?

JandamiHash · 17/02/2025 22:05

I was thinking of this thread this morning when at 9am I was trying to proof read an important document that needed to be signed off this morning, whilst I could hear DH fannying around with DS getting ready for holiday club and DD stomping about declaring how hungry she was. I thought “Yeah this is definitely the easy option Mr Ofsted” 🙄

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JandamiHash · 17/02/2025 22:02

pollymere · 17/02/2025 21:57

The one being discussed in this thread 😂

There isn’t a study being discussed in this thread it was an article about an interview.

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pollymere · 17/02/2025 21:57

BlueSilverCats · 17/02/2025 21:06

What study?

The one being discussed in this thread 😂

Donsyb · 17/02/2025 21:48

I’ve yet to come across non WFH who are “resentful” of WFHers. More that they point out, rightly, that lots do take the piss (as evidenced often on MN). And some WFHers seem to get very defensive about that.

I am not saying all WFHers are skiving, but we all know some that are.

BlueSilverCats · 17/02/2025 21:06

pollymere · 17/02/2025 20:38

The Study suggested that kids were refusing school because their parents got to stay at home. I'm not aware of it being about parents who are too lazy to take them. I taught quite a few kids who loved online learning when they were given work at 7am and could get it done without disruption, then have the rest of the day for themselves. I found lessons written during lockdown took one and a half to two lessons in the classroom. Why should kids like that have any desire to go to school?

What study?

mumatlast14 · 17/02/2025 21:00

REDB99 · 16/02/2025 15:15

But why don’t you still give them calpol and send them in? If you managed that before but now let them stay off then you’re using your WFH to enable your kids to be off school. If they’re too ill then of course they should be off but you’ve stated that you would have sent them in previously but now don’t as you WFH. Hence, people think that that an increase in WFH has led to an increase in school absence, you’ve just proved the link in your case.

Or maybe we could look at it from a health perspective. Kids with WFH parents have better health care and recovery.
Its all about the framing.
Kids are sick and their health is being given priority by WFH parents because their work isn't dictating the ability for them to stay home and recuperate. Frankly kids should stay home when sick and the main reason they don't is because parents often have no choice to prioritise their kids health and wellbeing over work.
Two sides to the same coin.

And one more idea ...maybe the poor kids suffering Long Covid make up a large number of these absences?
www.longcovidkids.org/

pollymere · 17/02/2025 20:38

The Study suggested that kids were refusing school because their parents got to stay at home. I'm not aware of it being about parents who are too lazy to take them. I taught quite a few kids who loved online learning when they were given work at 7am and could get it done without disruption, then have the rest of the day for themselves. I found lessons written during lockdown took one and a half to two lessons in the classroom. Why should kids like that have any desire to go to school?

Lollipop81 · 17/02/2025 18:19

I couldn’t think of anything worse that wfh with kids either, just to save a 10 minute school run 😅 doesn’t seem like a good trade off to me. It’s hard enough when they are poorly and home.

JandamiHash · 17/02/2025 12:46

NoSoupForU · 17/02/2025 10:37

And that's great. But it isn't being claimed that WFH is the only factor. It's merely being stated that it is a factor, and one worth exploring.

We know there are other issues. We know those other issues have a more profound impact.

See I don’t think it is worth exploring any more than other baseless speculation about other causes.

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Bromptotoo · 17/02/2025 12:27

Oblomov25 · 17/02/2025 12:11

"We know there are other issues. We know those other issues have a more profound impact."

But he doesn't say that. All he says is the wfh bit.

If he'd stated it better, implied there were many reasons, and all needed looking into, he would've got a different reaction.

Is the emphasis on WfH actually his or the spin the reporting paper - The Times - has chosen for the story?

tallcurvey · 17/02/2025 12:27

@JandamiHash

jesus no
i think he has a very solid point.

Oblomov25 · 17/02/2025 12:11

"We know there are other issues. We know those other issues have a more profound impact."

But he doesn't say that. All he says is the wfh bit.

If he'd stated it better, implied there were many reasons, and all needed looking into, he would've got a different reaction.

ThePartingOfTheWays · 17/02/2025 10:58

NoSoupForU · 17/02/2025 10:37

And that's great. But it isn't being claimed that WFH is the only factor. It's merely being stated that it is a factor, and one worth exploring.

We know there are other issues. We know those other issues have a more profound impact.

Worth pointing out that we don't actually even know if it's a factor. There's no data, only vibes.

NoSoupForU · 17/02/2025 10:40

unlimiteddilutingjuice · 17/02/2025 08:01

The comment about Westminster clearing out on Thursday night is very ignorant.
Friday is the day that MPs generally do constituency stuff.
So on Thursday afternoon they'll be travelling back to their constituencies (some hundreds of mikes away).
On Fridays they'll be running advice surgeries, catching up with constituency staff, going to meetings about local issues etc.
It's not a day off to piss about.

Edited

It also is very reflective of general working. I work away a lot and Thursday evening is peak time for travel home because nobody wants to have their flight or train cancelled on a Friday and potentially be stuck into the weekend. It doesn't mean we don't work on Friday, we just do a different type of work.

NoSoupForU · 17/02/2025 10:37

JandamiHash · 16/02/2025 19:50

But parents not leaving for work when their kids leave for school is nothing new.

I get up because someone has to take the kids to school. People will work night shifts and be laying in bed whilst their children get ready. Some people are part time and so won’t be leaving the house that day. This has been the case for decades

It makes ore sense to teach children that hard work can be achieved within the home - which is not hard for them to understand

Edited

And that's great. But it isn't being claimed that WFH is the only factor. It's merely being stated that it is a factor, and one worth exploring.

We know there are other issues. We know those other issues have a more profound impact.

Chillilounger · 17/02/2025 10:07

There is a massive backlash against WFH at the moment. I am sure there are those that take the piss but it's down to companies to set the culture. In our place I can always get hold of WFH colleagues and we are in calls a lot everyone is fully and professionally dressed, workloads are kept on top of. I just don't recognise the newspaper headlines saying no one thinks people are really WFH on a Friday. If Anything I work later on Fridays if WFH because no commute.

Treesandsheepeverywhere · 17/02/2025 09:06

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Oh wow! These are the bad apples. No less, chores done and whatever else on top.

There were sahp before but now you have those same people who fought to have a job want to still stay at home and get paid for doing little.

I don't dispute there are hard workers but a lot take liberties and spoil it for others.

BogRollBOGOF · 17/02/2025 08:44

DS had a couple of years of bad luck with health from a chronic condition, slow recovery from an injury and a random surgical issue.
The one factor that could have helped with his attendance would be timely access to a GP to stop conditions escalating.

Last year I tried to contact the GP as his chronic condition was aggravating, but the 7 appointments they had for the day across their multiple practices were long gone and they sent a text out saying basically we have nothing, go to a pharmacy, the walk-in or A&E. Sitting in a crowded wating room for hours with contagiously ill people from across the city would not have been great for DS's health, so we carried on using his usual medication to the max dosage (which could have been a likely outcome anyway). A couple of weeks later he had a flare in school that couldn't be settled and it was a 999 call.

Strangely shirty letters from the school/ LA did nothing to improve DS's health.
DS ended up with "unauthorised" attendances for vomiting later in the school year because I didn't attempt to waste mine or the GP's time to make an appointment to prove that DS had a simple illness that required 48 hours rest out of school in line with the school's own bloody policy 🤦‍♀️

The real issues are:
Timely access to health care
Appropriate provision for additional needs
Engaging with a small core of families who do not engage with the education system

Where WFH is a factor, it's in facilitating families to keep children off when mildly ill rather than dosing with Calpol and hoping for the best and risking infecting more children in the class.

BlueSilverCats · 17/02/2025 08:19

ThePartingOfTheWays · 17/02/2025 08:14

He's having quite the week for crap ideas. This comes hot on the heels of extend term times, earlier this week. The teacher and TA recruitment crisis isn't quite bad enough, it would seem.

Basically, everyone else(teachers and parents )is lazy and not working hard enough, except him and his dad.Grin

ThePartingOfTheWays · 17/02/2025 08:14

He's having quite the week for crap ideas. This comes hot on the heels of extend term times, earlier this week. The teacher and TA recruitment crisis isn't quite bad enough, it would seem.