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To think the Ofsted inspector who blames WFH parents for low attendance is probably just resentful?

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JandamiHash · 16/02/2025 14:28

The Chief Inspector of Ofsted is blaming parents who WFH for the demise of school attendance https://www.itv.com/news/2025-02-16/parents-working-from-home-makes-children-feel-school-is-optional-ofsted-head?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR0ULgukQnTsabNTlcJRBI4kVQsMYkhCPK_KA4lUAgVkxOocYfo3onmRNHU_aem_nuBknA_QEGgfA93CaTPagg. Apparently none of us want to take our slippers off so we let our kids stay at home while we work.

He makes some REALLY weird points like his overworked dad he didn’t see much as his inspiration to go to school. And also MPs making sure they spend weekends with their families is a bad work ethic.

I know MN is a good example of whenever WFH threads are brought up, non-WFHers come on dripping with resentment over WFH and implying WFHers don’t really work. AIBU to think this man - who has somehow been knighted - is basically doing that? I’m not sure how much inspecting he does now, but Ofsted inspectors aren’t any superior or harder working just because they spend a few days working away from home at a time (something BTW I’m expected to do, at least 1 overnight a month).

Also as someone from a household where 2 of us WFH, I can’t think of anything worse than having kids flapping around us while we try and work. I’m FT, and this week I’m off Weds-Fri, as is DH. my DD11 will be at home tomorrow with strict instructions to keep away unless there’s a serious emergency (she’s secondary and old enough to take care of herself) and at a friend’s on Tuesday. My DS is 8 and is going into a holiday club tomorrow and Tuesday as his neediness is unbearable. Both have somewhere between 97 and 99% attendance so far this academic year.

YABU - “He’s got a point”
YANBU - “He’s wrong/resentful”

OP posts:
MumTeacherofMany · 16/02/2025 15:15

Children with lower attendance tend to have parents who wfh or do not work. I would say he was stating facts OP.

JandamiHash · 16/02/2025 15:14

2024YR4 · 16/02/2025 14:44

Perhaps parents who WFH or are SAHP are just able to keep their dc off when necessary rather than sending ill children to school? Looking at some schools info sheets on when to send dc in it seems they want them in when not well at all. Maybe the focus needs to be on why schools have these ridiculous targets and expectations for children to be in unwell (when they won’t be receptive to learning anyway ?)

I agree with you - I feel like schools are being pressured to see numbers not humans.

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okydokethen · 16/02/2025 15:14

My friend keeps her children home often on her WFH day, she finds it hard to say no when they are tired, although school have noticed a pattern in their days off.

Treesandsheepeverywhere · 16/02/2025 15:13

I can’t think of anything worse than having kids flapping around us while we try and work.

You are one of those who have a plan in place and make it work between you and your DH.

There are some who wfh with no childcare in place.

There have been numerous threads of people wfh with toddlers and babies to look after.

Some who brag about not doing much, logging on and snoozing through meetings, doing the school runs, chores, etc whilst pretending to be working.

Not all productivity is/can be tracked and some people do take liberties.

So although it maybe jealousy from some,
it's not surprising that companies are calling people back in.

If wfh is more productive, companies would stick with it.

Unfortunately it's the few lazy ones who spoil it for everyone.

JandamiHash · 16/02/2025 15:12

ilovesooty · 16/02/2025 14:44

Why would people do that if you haven't read it?

Because I’m assuming the Sunday Times article has some smoking gun that ITV didn’t cover?

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Ankhmo · 16/02/2025 15:11

He's basically saying..
"When I were a lad, me dad got up half an hour before he went to bed. He made us lick road clean before putting our cardboard shoes on"

This was back in the 70s and 80s as the man is 52.

Reacting to the national absence stat going up without looking into why, is dim.

Saying people just want to stay at home and not put their shoes on, labels parents as lazy.
It could be that the awareness of viruses is higher now and parents worry more about long term exposure to chest infections and the like. It could be that they don't want their I'll child to spread it to their classmates.. classes are a lot bigger now than they were, its not just 1 kid infecting 20.. it's 1 kid infecting 30 or more.
It could be that parents have more knowledge of such things these days than back in the 70s
It could be that some kids have mental problems, that they hate school and they hate teachers and would happily murder them... So the parents keep them off hoping to get mental health support, but that never comes due to cuts..

It could be any one of a thousand and 17 reasons..

But no.. old man blames it on things not being how it used to be...

JandamiHash · 16/02/2025 15:10

StripyHorse · 16/02/2025 14:40

I think there will be a VERY small increase in children staying off when parents WFH, and they will be the children who should be off.

It is not unheard of for children to be sent in to school when they are ill and shouldn't be there - for example children who reveal they were sick that morning but mummy and daddy have to work. If parents can keep their child off in those circumstances- great!

I do think the pandemic changed things. Nobody asked for children to be off school for six months and then on and off for another year, it was forced on us all and we had to middle through as best we could. Except for a few kids, they all got a substandard education during lockdown.

But schools, Ofsted and leaders expected children, some very small, to snap back to the mindset, attitude and priorities they had 18 months earlier. And then act all confused when not every child just slipped back into normal schooling.

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Budgiegirlbob · 16/02/2025 15:10

JandamiHash · 16/02/2025 15:07

These comments mostly:

I think developing good social habits of getting up in the morning, putting your shoes on instead of your slippers,

I look at Westminster (where Ofsted is based) and I see the place clearing out on a Thursday night very often. Again, is there something in that?

Odd comments for a senior figure to make

Whether or not the comments are odd (and I don’t particularly think they are), I really can’t see why you’d call them resentful

YearsofYears · 16/02/2025 15:08

I work from home twice a week and a main purpose of this is so I bring my kids to school!

Hazel665 · 16/02/2025 15:07

I think it's more likely to be because these kids 'worked from home' themselves for the best part of 2 years, so they don't see why it's not okay to do that now. And in some cases, I agree with them. Turning up to an old-fashioned didactic classroom as per the last few hundreds of years or more may not necessarily be best for everyone.

JandamiHash · 16/02/2025 15:07

budgiegirl · 16/02/2025 14:40

I think he may have a point, although it's just his opinion - I doubt there's any evidence to back up this up I would imagine, in some households, the fact that parents are working from home may make it harder for some children to get motivated to get out to school. And there will be some parents who are more likely to let their children stay off with a sniffle if they are at home anyway, and aren't having to worry too much about who will provide childcare.

Whether he's right or wrong, I've no idea why you think he's resentful.

These comments mostly:

I think developing good social habits of getting up in the morning, putting your shoes on instead of your slippers,

I look at Westminster (where Ofsted is based) and I see the place clearing out on a Thursday night very often. Again, is there something in that?

Odd comments for a senior figure to make

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AsFunAsEnglishWeather · 16/02/2025 15:05

Ankhmo · 16/02/2025 15:03

I've read the article and I think the blokes talking out his arse.

This. It's perfectly possible to work from home and still be strict on valuing education and making sure your children go in to school each day.

noctilucentcloud · 16/02/2025 15:04

The number of pupils not attending 10% or more of sessions (ie missing at least one day per fortnight) has approximately doubled since covid (~10 % before 2020, ~ 20% in 2024). So there is obviously something going on, and quite possibly related to covid and things associated with that (eg working/studying from home, lockdown, mental health, increased medical waiting lists etc). I suspect there's more than one issue at play, but I think work from home /hybrid working is a big change and it's reasonable to hypothesise that might be a cause. He's also not saying it'll be an issue from everyone who works from home, or even a majority, but for some it may be. But 20 % missing more than 10 % is a lot and as a society we should be aiming to reduce this. Understanding why is often the first step.

JustMyView13 · 16/02/2025 15:03

It’s probably got more to do with schools closing over Covid, kids being abandoned in a lot of cases (from an education standpoint), schools closing on strike days.

Marketing the importance of attending school is somewhat undermined when the schools themselves seemingly close ‘when it suits’.

Ankhmo · 16/02/2025 15:03

I've read the article and I think the blokes talking out his arse.

WorkCleanRepeat · 16/02/2025 15:02

Moltenpink · 16/02/2025 14:40

Well, I am more lenient on letting my kids stay home sick, since I’ve been able to wfh and not lose a day’s pay. They’ve been off with a stomach ache and heavy cold this year, previously it might have been a dose of calpol & see how they get on in school

I agree.

I went back to the office full time 12 months ago and have definitely sent my kids to school this year on days I'd have kept them home when I was wfh.

MoltenLasagne · 16/02/2025 15:02

The only evidence that the full article has is the stats on current absences which have increased significantly since Covid, and that working from home has also increased in correlation. It has absolutely no evidence that there is any causation apart from supposition.

Personally I think it's far more likely that long term impact of lockdowns are continuing to be seen in the absent rates, rather than it being significantly linked to where a parent works.

Never2many · 16/02/2025 15:02

Hilarious. Going to go and look through the news headlines now and make up a load of threads making stuff up as I go just to get the masses riled up. 😂

Dogthespot · 16/02/2025 15:02

Ankhmo · 16/02/2025 14:56

Archived 14 hours ago.

archive.ph/zwNPv

Take a read op

then see if you’re frothing with resentment

Dogthespot · 16/02/2025 15:00

Never2many · 16/02/2025 14:59

Apparently not. No because it’s behind a paywall bit of a contradiction there OP. you claim to have read the article, except you haven’t and have made up a viewpoint from a quote.

Maybe go and read the article first. And if you can’t read it then it’s a bit disingenuous to start a thread about something you know nothing about.

Turns out op hasn’t bothered to read the article 🙄

Never2many · 16/02/2025 14:59

Dogthespot · 16/02/2025 14:39

You’ve read the Sunday times article?

Surely you’d know then (not being snippy but the article was much fuller and you’d know that he’s not having a go at all WFH parent)

Apparently not. No because it’s behind a paywall bit of a contradiction there OP. you claim to have read the article, except you haven’t and have made up a viewpoint from a quote.

Maybe go and read the article first. And if you can’t read it then it’s a bit disingenuous to start a thread about something you know nothing about.

Ankhmo · 16/02/2025 14:56

Archived 14 hours ago.

archive.ph/zwNPv

blueshoes · 16/02/2025 14:56

AnotherDayInParadise43 · 16/02/2025 14:54

He's off his rocker. I've worked from home for nearly 5 years, DC have 100% attendance. Can't think of anything I'd want less than to have them around while I'm trying to work it was bad enough during the pandemic. And I do way more work at home than in the office.

Sounds like this Ofsted person either never works or is resentful others get to work from home. Both are possibilities.

budgiegirl · 16/02/2025 14:54

NotVeryFunny · 16/02/2025 14:40

"He makes some REALLY weird points like his overworked dad he didn’t see much as his inspiration to go to school. And also MPs making sure they spend weekends with their families is a bad work ethic. "

So he was neglected and would like other kids to be neglected too.

Am I missing something? In what world is it neglect if one parent gets up and goes to work before the children have got up to go to school? Surely that's normal in many households? It was in mine, and I certainly wasn't neglected.

blueshoes · 16/02/2025 14:54

Dogthespot · 16/02/2025 14:51

It’s behind a paywall
do you have a subscription?

No. Most people don't.

You realise you are just shouting into the wind if you are asking people repeatedly to read the full article.