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Buying house with partner

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WhoevenamIinlife · 16/02/2025 08:35

So I own my own home - I purchased it with sales from my old ex marital home to live with my 2 DD.

Few years later I meet new partner he moves in pays 50% of running costs. We have another baby. Partner on a salary of £35k so unable to save much. Has no savings before meeting me or own property.

We want to get a bigger place and partner wants to get on property ladder.

Issues arising - he is a contractor on £650 a day so income is huge but not a permanent contract. He has saved near £10k since December so I know he is able to save but nowhere near to match equity in my home already. I should have about £300 - £350k by the time we want to buy. He obviously cannot match that but does want 50/50 ownership and has suggested I put down the deposit and he will cover all mortgage payments forever... so at the end of the mortgage he would've paid off the same as I put in if not more.
My concerns - it's contracting not guaranteed and what If we decide to go our own ways. How can I protect my deposit, allow him to feel he's 50% owner but also get the bigger home we need for the children.

AIBU in feeling uncomfortable about his proposition? I trust him but I need to protect my assesses especially as I have been working hard over paying to have as much equity as I do.

OP posts:
Bumblingbee101 · 16/02/2025 13:32

Tenants in common and a declaration of trust. Do not go for the option he is suggesting as tbh there is a reason he hasn't saved a single penny before... you said he is financially unreliable. Your Spidey senses are screaming no and trust them!! If you do it his way and you part company with no documents then he will be entitled to half. Don't be daft @WhoevenamIinlife you know the answer deep down. Protect your 350k
Be mindful if you marry your declaration of trust becomes null and void unless you sign a pre nup. Protect it at all costs! Your declaration would look something like this. When selling the property OP to get back 350k deposit, partner 10k. And any profit split 50.50. I would also pay 50.50 in mortgage do there can be no arguments. Personally, stay where you are and see what happens in a year as there is a baby involved. Good luck! 💐

JimHalpertsWife · 16/02/2025 13:31

Just buy a house yourself, using your existing equity which fits you and your three children in. Of course he can live there with you too, paying half the bills - but make sure you cover 100% of the mortgage.

He can buy his own separate property for his own stability if he so wishes. Don't marry.

Dogthespot · 16/02/2025 13:24

are. For clarity he did have a poor financial history prior to meeting hence no saving or property -

just the kind of prince I would want to introduce in to my young children’s lives and have a baby with

Dogthespot · 16/02/2025 13:21

This will end badly op

Bigcat25 · 16/02/2025 13:14

Either protect your deposit or put down a smaller amount he can match and invest the rest. Don't let him steal from you and your kids.

iamnotalemon · 16/02/2025 13:02

Of course he wants 50/50 home ownership!

Go to a solicitor and get an agreement drawn up to protect your assets in the property.

YesImawitch · 16/02/2025 12:45

toomuchfaff · 16/02/2025 11:48

He's clearly poor at financial security at best, at worst he's probably a gambler

Reaching, or projecting? who knows

It's quite common for a low earner previously on 35k to not have a property or assets, he has only recently got the contract £650 a day so he is now a high earner and has saved 10k since December so highly unlikely to be a gambler.

Yes he has a child... with OP. A child often focusses a mind to make roots and start laying foundations.

32.5% of the value mortgaged is his debt. It's not equity until it's paid. If he cant/won't pay his debt then it doesn't all of a sudden get paid (unless OP decides to stupidly pay it, which i doubt)

Take your bigoted opinion and project it elsewhere.

For clarity he did have a poor financial history prior to meeting hence no saving or property
Perhaps you need to re read Op
Her quote

Miaowzabella · 16/02/2025 11:59

He's a contractor and also on a salary?

toomuchfaff · 16/02/2025 11:48

YesImawitch · 16/02/2025 10:45

You don't need to explain this to me
I know how it works

He's barely saved a penny in his entire life so why on earth would you tell Op to buy a house with him?
It's insanity!

he gets 32.5% of the value but what if Mrnosavings suddenly decides he can't affordwon't pay his half of the mortgage?
He's got no assets or savings at all and has a child -He's clearly poor at financial security at best, at worst he's probably a gambler

Don't do it Op

He's clearly poor at financial security at best, at worst he's probably a gambler

Reaching, or projecting? who knows

It's quite common for a low earner previously on 35k to not have a property or assets, he has only recently got the contract £650 a day so he is now a high earner and has saved 10k since December so highly unlikely to be a gambler.

Yes he has a child... with OP. A child often focusses a mind to make roots and start laying foundations.

32.5% of the value mortgaged is his debt. It's not equity until it's paid. If he cant/won't pay his debt then it doesn't all of a sudden get paid (unless OP decides to stupidly pay it, which i doubt)

Take your bigoted opinion and project it elsewhere.

RandomUser9876543211 · 16/02/2025 11:48

WhoevenamIinlife · 16/02/2025 10:19

Thankyou everyone for your responses. I appreciate the looking out for my interest perspectives. I do not plan to give away my deposit or equity to this man. I plan to build a future together that protects me and my children's home in as things do not work out. Protecting deposits will be my way forward. I do not want to and will not lose out anymore than I have already done financially from previous mistakes.

is ring fencing the deposit not the same as percentage of equity if the property was to sell?
it's so complicated buying again with someone who is not on the same ladder .

No, You need to calculate the % of the house you own vs % they own. Base this on the deposit or whats left after. He'll almost have nothing after stamp duty and fees from 10k

YesImawitch · 16/02/2025 11:45

WhoevenamIinlife · 16/02/2025 11:21

I find your judgement fairly offensive. And quite judgy. If for example that was the case surely you would be more sympathetic than being how you are?
and no I wasn't married to someone abusive. Just a tosser who I didn't want to raise my children with.

Ok but you a ignoring major red flags
He's earning 35K but has no money and no stability-why?
Alcohol/ gambling/ overspending ?
He is telling you he WANTS 50/50
50/50 of YOUR money whilst he has zero

If you can't see the brass neck cheek aka financial abuse here then good luck
Be offended just don't make a huge financial mistake

DrMaxwell · 16/02/2025 11:31

I'm currently buying a property with DP, we earn about the same but he is supplying all the deposit from his house sale. We're buying as tenants in common with a declaration of trust, if the property is sold, he gets the deposit back, after that any equity would be split 50/50 between us. The mortgage is in joint names and we'll contibute equally to the payments. I don't know if this is still completely fair on him, but he is happy and so am I.

hettie · 16/02/2025 11:25

Good god it gets worse..."a poor financial history" he might well be in a phase right now where he has paid of his debts but he's earning a fortune.. The biggest predictor of someone's future behaviour is their past behaviour. Assuming this man isn't 22 he has a history of getting into debt (which frankly gives most us the massive ick.... It's just so childlike) so a high likelihood of mismanagement of money in the future. The position your in now where you have full access to accounts (presumably to monitor the manchild) is fine....Up until the point he gets a new card/account that he doesn't wish to be monitored... Honestly please wake up.... He's a walking liability

NewHeaven · 16/02/2025 11:25

How long have you been with him before getting pregnant?

NewHeaven · 16/02/2025 11:23

millymollymoomoo · 16/02/2025 08:39

No way would I agree to this

You can’t give him 50% ownership as he’s contributing nowhere near that! If you sign as joint tenants or tenants in common with 50:50 and you split you’ll lose half of your money

I’d only agree to buy if it’s tenants in common with unequal
shares -90/10 or similar and an agreement to review periodically with a view to changing that over time

do not cave in

Buy as tenants in common, make a will and sign over your half of the property to your children. This way their inheritance is secured for their future. If you don't then there's no guarantee that your original dd's will receive anything after you die. It would just be your shared child with your partner that would inherit.

I wouldn't agree to buying anything with him at all. In fact, I'd leave everything in trust to my children. Children are more important than partners who come and go over time but your kids are your blood. Put them first always.

WhoevenamIinlife · 16/02/2025 11:21

YesImawitch · 16/02/2025 11:15

Absolutely this
He's after what he can get here, not adult enough to have anything to offer Op and his own child
Why oh why do women get lumbered with these men?
Pound to a penny Ops previous relationship was abusive and here we are ...

I find your judgement fairly offensive. And quite judgy. If for example that was the case surely you would be more sympathetic than being how you are?
and no I wasn't married to someone abusive. Just a tosser who I didn't want to raise my children with.

OP posts:
SALaw · 16/02/2025 11:21

@Dogthespot one of those children is his?!

ByQuaintAzureWasp · 16/02/2025 11:20

Let's say house you are buying is £700,000. You own 50% outright as you've paid the £350k deposit - this is protected, including any rise/fall the value of your % equity stake.

You then need to decide who is owning the 50% debt. You are risking it here as if he doesn't pay your house could still get repossessed.

I think you need to wait 6 months, at least, anyway whilst you save up for stamp duty, solicitors etc etc.
Do not marry him.

WhoevenamIinlife · 16/02/2025 11:19

i utterly appreciate each and every one of your comments and I totally understand why you all are saying what you are. For clarity he did have a poor financial history prior to meeting hence no saving or property - he has in the last year since securing his contract saved paid off debts and brought a newish car outright - he supports his parents. He does contribute and pay more than his share of bills and expenses for the house - tenants in common with the percentage agreed is the best solution. I would probably still be able to buy him out if things didn't work out. Just for clarity I don't have concerns about his money after having full access to his ins and outs. He has no idea what I earn. He's not money orientated and I did suggest the ring fence and he said yes we need to see a solicitor etc. to his defence he did say he will save a year and then contribute that percentage wise but I have discussed moving sooner then his plan hence the discussion of how it would work. But for clarity I would never ever ever give my children's money to anyone even if my soul mate appeared (I dnt believe in soul mates).

OP posts:
hettie · 16/02/2025 11:19

No no no...Please please spend a few hundred to get some time with a lawyer...He has no capital (equity or savings) to put into a new property. You will own 99 % of the property because you have the equity and can get a mortgage. His 10k might not even give him 1 % tbh. He just about has money to contribute to fees. You cannot allow your children's security (or yours) to be thrown away like this. I can't for the life of me see why you would even offer tenants in common to a man who has zero mathematical or financial nouse (or is a lazy chancery) and has not been sufficiently capable at adulting to save any money/sort his own housing out.
Please please get some legal advice and protect your children's future

Cosyblankets · 16/02/2025 11:18

Given that you're already divorced then you know full well that relationships can go wrong.
Protect your deposit buy as T i C

YesImawitch · 16/02/2025 11:15

Mnetcurious · 16/02/2025 10:31

Also, if he’s paying the mortgage then you need to make sure other household bills are split fairly (assuming you’re not putting all money in a family pot). I could imagine based on what you’ve said so far and some of the other people I’ve read about here, that he might come up with something like “I’m paying the mortgage (let’s say eg £1k per month) so you need to cover council tax/energy/food.” Of course this is unfair because he and not you will benefit from the mortgage payments because that’s been agreed it will increase his share of the property, whereas both of you will benefit from the other bills being paid, so they shouldn’t be left to just you.

Absolutely this
He's after what he can get here, not adult enough to have anything to offer Op and his own child
Why oh why do women get lumbered with these men?
Pound to a penny Ops previous relationship was abusive and here we are ...

Loopytiles · 16/02/2025 11:15

No, as PPs have said protecting your deposit isn’t enough.

You’re under reacting to his suggestion.

Doobeedoodoo · 16/02/2025 11:13

Absolutely don’t agree to him 50/50 and covering expenses. Because he will put in £10k and will get to walk away with half, potentially round the mark of £150k, if you split. Fucking hell. No way. Your daughters will be losing out massively here.

Of course he wants to get on property ladder and have a big house. Ha.

You trust him now but his proposition is not fair and i bet he knows that. You will also be tied to him and fear of losing massive amount in separation will make you accept all sorts of bevahiours that might surface later. I bet he realises that too.

Do not do this. Get a professional advice on this and if he kicks off then you know what he’s after.

Anotherfrozenpizzafortea · 16/02/2025 11:06

I'm gonna comment again because I'm so incensed by his suggestion.

If he's earning £650 A DAY his annual salary is in excess of £140k A YEAR.

Or he's only working 4.5 days a month?

You're poles apart in your financial savvy op. You CANNOT risk the equity you've already got to buy a house with a man who is so financially irresponsible/lying about his expenses AND who isn't capable of understanding why his proposal is so preposterous and monumentally unfair on you

DON'T DO IT

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