School is asking children to say ‘peace be upon him’ anytime Mohammed is mentioned

I find this laughable tbh. The absolute stereotype of a meek little wife dressed in black and so on. Muslim women come in all shapes and sizes, some are even professionals....who'd have thought it.
As home making and family is greatly respected and valued, they often very much run the show at home.

I’m was an RE teacher for a decade and I’m shocked by the responses. I don’t know if it’s ignorance or the worry of Islam but really I’m surprised at how upset people are being.

This thread is an excellent example of why religion needs to be taught and discussed in schools.
Now the thread is talking about apparent banning of Christmas and head coverings 🙄

In Islam PBUH is used after the prophets name. I imagine it was taught as this and not that kids have to say it. Maybe it was a misunderstanding, but it seems like such a storm in a tea cup.

It would be a perfect topic for a lesson. The beauty of teaching RE is that you don’t have to agree with each other and you can be critical BUT the key is to be able to argue your opinion with respect and facts.

Exactly. I'm not a Muslim. But everyone acts as if Muslim women are oppressed.

What is inconvenient and restrictive about the clothing worn by Muslim women?

I think the hijab looks brilliant tbh.

You wouldn’t know it though. They cover up just about the same as any other bloke. Unlike the women, whose ‘piety’ (in many expressions of Islam) is seemingly demonstrated on the most inconvenient and restrictive coverings. Funny that.

That’s another thing that is whitewashed in RE. The veil. And the cultural misogyny behind it.

Lots of muslim women do not cover their heads by the way.

@Ponderingwindow same

I bet you can't move for bridges

Yes yes.

From the navel to the knee.

Men have to cover up as well in islam?

It is amusing - awful too - when stupidity shows itself. This teacher! lol.

Any update on the Muslims banning Christmas please?

Would that also apply to Catholic cathedrals?

I missed the part where you asked if it is normal to say ‘amen’ in assembly if you are not a Christian

My kids aren't Christian, they don't say amen or join in with prayers, why would they? I'd be very cross if school tried to enforce this. One teacher did briefly with my eldest, he told her in no uncertain terms that he didn't believe any god existed.

You must ask the teacher to clarify the requirement by drawing Mohammed on the blackboard.

That may put a stop to this ridiculous demand. 😀

I wouldn’t want my son or daughter to enter any facility or place where one sex faced that kind of requirement. We should not be teaching children to participate in sexist practices no matter the excuse.

Sorry, I really can't understand what you're saying here, nor your previous reply either.

Do you have a link to this please, absolutely fascinating.

It did. Plus the Muslims banned Christmas, and made everyone, everywhere, refer to it as 'Winterval'.

This definitely happened.

I don't know how you have followed religion for so long and not come to the conclusion that it's not for financial gain?

Ah, that's easy. 'Religions', big businesses employing people, owning property etc, that might well be for financial gain, as well as for power to exert over others.

'Religion', belief, following teachings etc - that's personal, not for any gain other than the hope of heaven.

It is an interesting issue on head coverings etc. Most of us on holiday tend to try to fit in eg I covered my hair on business in Iran. In Spanish Cathedrals most people would cover their arms. On copying a cultural item that can be a minefield in itself. If I put on a burka because I did not want CCTV recording me that is lawful but some muslims might think it was a bit cheeky to do so if not muslim and cultural appropriation might come into play.

In Catholic masses non Catholics are not allowed to take communion (Tony Blair got in trouble for that before he converted from the C oif E)_. C of E allow any Christian to take it - that is probably because of the different religious views of the two kinds of Christianity about what is called transubstantiation I think.

If you wish peace on someone who does not exist today whenever you say the name of the supposed Prophet that is not necessarily the right thing to do even if some muslims want you to do so. Requiring children in school where Islaim may well be against their religious beliefs might be tantamount to asking them bown down before the teacher's personal altar of Satan she set up in the classroom because she is a satanist. It sounds like a recipe for problems.

I work as a supply TA sometimes. I went on a school visit to a mosque without a hair covering and it was fine. No-one said anything or was offended. I don't think the girls had to cover their heads either, but they were small. We were there to listen to a talk, not to worship.