Couple held in Iran

Oh dear God. This is exactly the type of smug, self absorbed, twattish attitude that would make me run for the hills rather than interact with them. I expect your average Iranian would feel exactly the same?

I see your point. But this has to be balanced by the fact that many foreigners including Brits do go to Iran and leave safely. Doubtless this is what they thought. What actually, among all the people who have visited and returned are the chances of being locked up, especially if you go with a tour guide?

They weighed up the risk. As you say you cannot totally eliminate all risk. But that is not the same as being stupid, anymore than preparing for a tough mountain trek known to be dangerous in which a few people have died climbing, but most complete successfully is stupid.

It's unfortunate.

People do do risky things - such as deep sea diving, mountain climbing - activities that can end up with death.

You can take steps to reduce the risks of these activities. Not eliminate them.

And you would have to balance the outcome of the activity with the potential risk involved and the chances of that happening.

Going to Iran is risky and the potential outcome could be many years in jail.

Is that risk worth going to Iran for 5 days to get some stuff for social media?

People to dangerous things for leisure all the time. Mountain climbing, deep sea diving, extreme skiing are all among activities that can cause you to literally die.

Likewise, some people like to go to places that are less travelled even if it's dangerous. For some the danger is the thrill.

That doesn't mean they deserve mocking if it all goes wrong, anymore than the person who stumbles, falls and dies whilst undertaking a very difficult climb does.

This couple were intrepid wanderers. It was what they did and they don't deserve locking up or people on internet taking the mick out of them. Imagine what they're going through, if it were you or loved ones, would you like a ton of strangers calling you stupid and saying they have no sympathy?

Does internet just make people crass, because I honestly do not believe for a moment that anyone here would really say these things to them or truly has no sympathy. Deep down you're appalled at what they might suffer. It's an unpleasant thought.

People to dangerous things for leisure all the time. Mountain climbing, deep sea diving, extreme skiing are all among activities that can cause you to literally die.

Likewise, some people like to go to places that are less travelled even if it's dangerous. For some the danger is the thrill.

That doesn't mean they deserve mocking if it all goes wrong, anymore than the person who stumbles, falls and dies whilst undertaking a very difficult climb does.

This couple were intrepid wanderers. It was what they did and they don't deserve locking up or people on internet taking the mick out of them. Imagine what they're going through, if it were you or loved ones, would you like a ton of strangers calling you stupid and saying they have no sympathy?

Does internet just make people crass, because I honestly do not believe for a moment that anyone here would really say these things to them or truly has no sympathy. Deep down you're appalled at what they might suffer. It's an unpleasant thought.

People to dangerous things for leisure all the time. Mountain climbing, deep sea diving, extreme skiing are all among activities that can cause you to literally die.

Likewise, some people like to go to places that are less travelled even if it's dangerous. For some the danger is the thrill.

That doesn't mean they deserve mocking if it all goes wrong, anymore than the person who stumbles, falls and dies whilst undertaking a very difficult climb does.

This couple were intrepid wanderers. It was what they did and they don't deserve locking up or people on internet taking the mick out of them. Imagine what they're going through, if it were you or loved ones, would you like a ton of strangers calling you stupid and saying they have no sympathy?

Does internet just make people crass, because I honestly do not believe for a moment that anyone here would really say these things to them or truly has no sympathy. Deep down you're appalled at what they might suffer. It's an unpleasant thought.

People to dangerous things for leisure all the time. Mountain climbing, deep sea diving, extreme skiing are all among activities that can cause you to literally die.

Likewise, some people like to go to places that are less travelled even if it's dangerous. For some the danger is the thrill.

That doesn't mean they deserve mocking if it all goes wrong, anymore than the person who stumbles, falls and dies whilst undertaking a very difficult climb does.

This couple were intrepid wanderers. It was what they did and they don't deserve locking up or people on internet taking the mick out of them. Imagine what they're going through, if it were you or loved ones, would you like a ton of strangers calling you stupid and saying they have no sympathy?

Does internet just make people crass, because I honestly do not believe for a moment that anyone here would really say these things to them or truly has no sympathy. Deep down you're appalled at what they might suffer. It's an unpleasant thought.

Some people are drawn to the parts of the world less travelled

Nowt wrong with that. But there’s a big difference in going to unusual places versus dangerous places that you’re advised not to go for your own safety.

Oh well, that's perfectly alright then.

I assume she just turned a blind eye to the fact millions of Afghani women and girls are brutally silenced and oppressed by a medieval regime that hates them?

That's interesting. Why are dual Iranian citizens more of a target than foreigners?

As regards this couple, I find the tone of this thread quite mean spirited. Iran is breath takingly beautiful and it's people are warm and friendly. I am dying to go myself, would love some authentic Iranian food. I am very sorry for this couple, as I completely understand the genuine open-heartedness that led them to it.

I saw a video of a woman who travelled to Afghanistan! She was treated very well, welcomed, shown hospitality and nothing happened. It was an experience of a life time. Some people are drawn to the parts of the world less travelled. I think this couple were just very unlucky to be marked out on this occasion. I hope they are released soon.

They are pretty bloody inept then. Unless MI6 have started recruiting from mindfulness retreats.

Or maybe .... they are actual spies👀🤣🤣

Yes, because the Taliban are so open and receptive towards the opinions of women.

Oh no, wait ......

She probably thought she could get them to change their stance with some positive mental energy or something 🙄.

That's interesting. Why are dual Iranian citizens more of a target than foreigners?

As regards this couple, I find the tone of this thread quite mean spirited. Iran is breath takingly beautiful and it's people are warm and friendly. I am dying to go myself, would love some authentic Iranian food. I am very sorry for this couple, as I completely understand the genuine open-heartedness that led them to it.

I saw a video of a woman who travelled to Afghanistan! She was treated very well, welcomed, shown hospitality and nothing happened. It was an experience of a life time. Some people are drawn to the parts of the world less travelled. I think this couple were just very unlucky to be marked out on this occasion. I hope they are released soon.

Oh well, that's perfectly alright then.

I assume she just turned a blind eye to the fact millions of Afghani women and girls are brutally silenced and oppressed by a medieval regime that hates them?

That's interesting. Why are dual Iranian citizens more of a target than foreigners?

As regards this couple, I find the tone of this thread quite mean spirited. Iran is breath takingly beautiful and it's people are warm and friendly. I am dying to go myself, would love some authentic Iranian food. I am very sorry for this couple, as I completely understand the genuine open-heartedness that led them to it.

I saw a video of a woman who travelled to Afghanistan! She was treated very well, welcomed, shown hospitality and nothing happened. It was an experience of a life time. Some people are drawn to the parts of the world less travelled. I think this couple were just very unlucky to be marked out on this occasion. I hope they are released soon.