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If you buy a massive 4×4 SUV...

518 replies

bravefox · 15/02/2025 14:34

... to ask you to practise parking it in a single space? Saturday afternoon in the town multistorey and the number of huge cars parked half in a second space is 🤯

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LakieLady · 15/02/2025 16:42

JohnofWessex · 15/02/2025 14:56

One issue is that car makers are not selling estate cars

They are also stopping selling MPV's and cars you can get into easily

There was some discussion on a site I am on for those that suffer the vice that has no name (OK Model Railways) that SUV's are massive but the bit thats important - the load bay is small compared to a proper estate car

That of course and the fact that you dont get a good view forwards so can easily run over a child because you cant see them

They still make estate cars. Our estate is awash with Skoda Octavias, VW Passats, Audi A4s and 6s, Ford Focuses and at least one BMW all in estate versions. Mercedes do them as well.

AlwaysPerplexed · 15/02/2025 16:40

HelplessSoul · 15/02/2025 16:19

Fuck France 😂 Who'd want to visit that dump anyway.

We need more SUV's frankly.

There's a simple reason why they sell - its demand.

People want them, OEMs manufacture them. End of.

Wow how rude are you?
Do you drive that sort of car? Sounds like it.

vitahelp · 15/02/2025 16:39

Oldglasses · 15/02/2025 16:38

Massive SUV = massive dickhead.

But it doesn’t though does it. Being a massive dickhead = massive dickhead, in any car

Oldglasses · 15/02/2025 16:38

Massive SUV = massive dickhead.

Needanewnameidea · 15/02/2025 16:38

JohnofWessex · 15/02/2025 14:56

One issue is that car makers are not selling estate cars

They are also stopping selling MPV's and cars you can get into easily

There was some discussion on a site I am on for those that suffer the vice that has no name (OK Model Railways) that SUV's are massive but the bit thats important - the load bay is small compared to a proper estate car

That of course and the fact that you dont get a good view forwards so can easily run over a child because you cant see them

In what world aren’t manufacturers selling estate cars?!

I’m looking for one right now, precisely because an SUV has less boot space and excessive width. I could see them available (sometimes multiple models) from Toyota, Seat, Skoda, VW, Hyundai, BMW, Mercedes, Volvo…

You’ll struggle with three kids in car seats or if you have a disability that means you can’t get down into a car easily, but for most other purposes they’re great and still very much available.

madamweb · 15/02/2025 16:38

Sunhatweather · 15/02/2025 16:35

Unless you need a massive 4x4 for farm/rural reasons, I do wonder if it would save money and the environment if people that way inclined should just paint ‘I want you to think I’m rich’ on the side of a normal car 🤷🏻‍♀️😊

Emphasis on "think" as well.
I remember a school mum complaining to me that her children couldn't do any of the hobbies my children do as they are "too expensive ". Then I hopped back into my little runabout and she got into her huge SUV with a personalised reg plate.

I spend my money on adventures and activities and investments, not status symbols

LongDarkTeatime · 15/02/2025 16:37

User21012025 · 15/02/2025 16:31

That's really mature 🙄

So more or less mature than buying a larger vehicle than required then stopping others from parking by taking 2 spaces? Do we need to build a scale here?

Sunhatweather · 15/02/2025 16:35

Unless you need a massive 4x4 for farm/rural reasons, I do wonder if it would save money and the environment if people that way inclined should just paint ‘I want you to think I’m rich’ on the side of a normal car 🤷🏻‍♀️😊

joanofaardvark · 15/02/2025 16:34

Honestly, I think there are better ways to improve safety than banning SUVs. I once saw a child be killed on the road by a vehicle turning across their path and not seeing them. Horrific. The vehicle happened to be a lorry/tipper truck type thing, not an SUV. The rest of the planet could have been in a mini and the child would still be dead. So find other ways of improving safety on the road, stigmatising SUVs and their drivers is a noisy sideshow.

LlynTegid · 15/02/2025 16:33

thismuchwould · 15/02/2025 16:16

We live in the country too. Lots of people have massive 4x4s in the countryside who really don’t need them. Plus they tend to be the worst drivers who take up the most room on narrow lanes not wishing to scratch their darling status symbols. Whereas people who use them for work purposes know they get scratched and pull into hedges appropriately

I can vouch for this too. My H used to have to travel a distance down a single country lane to take our youngest to nursery. He often met parents ( sorry it was usually mothers) taking their kids to school in their massive fucking SUVs (not farmers' working cars) and he said not one of them once was able to reverse their car out of the way. He was always the one having to reverse.

I think you are unfair to single out those in the countryside. I'd guess about 99% of people with SUVs don't need them, regardless of residence.

LongDarkTeatime · 15/02/2025 16:33

vitahelp · 15/02/2025 16:25

This all sounds very tiring, I just drive and let people out when needed, I don’t filter based on car choice..commuting is hard enough work as it is!

Sorry to hear you get so easily tired. Good luck with that x

Simonjt · 15/02/2025 16:32

We used to have a camper van (for transit essentially), I could always park it inside a space, not outside the lines etc. All SUVs fit in spaces, its just crap parking. My mum has a CRV, it takes up less room in a space than our civic.

Some places do have different size spaces, but usually for smaller cars, when you look at the market now there are far fewer mid size cars being made, look at the fiesta, its perfect for a family of four, small for city/town driving but big enough for four and enough boot space.

LlynTegid · 15/02/2025 16:32

EmeraldShamrock000 · 15/02/2025 16:28

When I see a big SUV on the school run I just think ‘there’s someone on the school run’.

I think thank goodness for parking sensors and depending on how many car parking spaces they blocked or obstruction the pathway, I might think they are a dick.

When I see one driving at speed, I think finger's crossed they won't hurt someone.

The size of the vehicle will give the driver an extra sense of security.

My friend has to get out of her range rover to insert a parking card, then climb back in. 😆

If the driver cannot manage a small car, then they should not be driving.

chocorabbit · 15/02/2025 16:31

vitahelp · 15/02/2025 16:17

I suppose it does present an issue, but then I have a large saloon which is as wide and long but just not as tall, so have all the same parking issues as them!

I'm pretty sure your car is not as wide.

LlynTegid · 15/02/2025 16:31

Parking spaces size I understand was set in the 70s.

Alongside updating it, there should be two categories of car licence, and if you want to drive an SUV or a high performance car, you should have to pass a test in one. Numbers would reduce if that was the case.

I'd also have double VAT or more on PCP payments for such vehicles.

In the meantime I would support parking companies making a penalty charge as technically the car has occupied two spaces, one of which was not paid for.

User21012025 · 15/02/2025 16:31

LongDarkTeatime · 15/02/2025 16:20

As a point of principle if a large (clearly status-symbol, not working) SUV wants space to join/merge I’ll never give way.
Any other vehicle, yes, of course, it’s courteous to let them in. But as someone has decided to fuel the unneeded moving around of so much metal just because …. nah, you can wait.

That's really mature 🙄

EmeraldShamrock000 · 15/02/2025 16:28

When I see a big SUV on the school run I just think ‘there’s someone on the school run’.

I think thank goodness for parking sensors and depending on how many car parking spaces they blocked or obstruction the pathway, I might think they are a dick.

When I see one driving at speed, I think finger's crossed they won't hurt someone.

The size of the vehicle will give the driver an extra sense of security.

My friend has to get out of her range rover to insert a parking card, then climb back in. 😆

Toddlerhelpplease123 · 15/02/2025 16:28

bravefox · 15/02/2025 16:22

Since you ask, we have a mid size SUV and a 7 seater minivan. I've never been to a carpark where the spaces were 'too small' for either of them.

Space size is a total red herring. Just buy a car you are competent parking

Hilarious! 🤣

99% of the spaces in this country are 2.4 x 4.8 so considering the obesity levels I dont think its a red herring.

Im a size 8 and struggle to get in and out half the time of normal bays in normally sized cars. Absolutely no idea how larger people do it!

Thank god I have young kids atm as the child bays are a nice reprieve from the squeeze.

User21012025 · 15/02/2025 16:27

I don't understand why a large SUV has to be a 'status symbol'. If we can afford one, why shouldn't we have one? 'Status' doesnt come in to it. I can park absolutely perfectly (if I say so my self) the only problems I have ever encountered is when other people park badly and I can't get back into my car. If we want and can afford a certain car, why shouldn't we have it? I have encountered terrible drivers and parkers, mostly in smaller cars!! 😂

LillyPJ · 15/02/2025 16:27

As I've said elsewhere - selfish, entitled behaviour.

sleepwouldbenice · 15/02/2025 16:26

DeepFatFried · 15/02/2025 15:58

These threads also always trigger the conclusion that it is jealousy or some sort of feeling of inferiority that causes people to be exasperated at the impact of massive cars and the behaviour of some of their drivers.

Is it a sense of entitlement that makes people shout ‘jealousy’? Not sure. Funny though.

I agree
I think the level of comments saying jealousy, crass comments about parking where they like or 😂😜 clearly show the ignorant personality that often goes with the vehicle. Am sure
Funny though

KittenPause · 15/02/2025 16:25

I just drive straight at them in a narrow street thinking you fucking twat why on earth are you driving down this narrow street expecting everyone to pull out if your way

Fuck off 4x4 city drivers you are a prick Grin

Crash into me go on I dare you

Redpeach · 15/02/2025 16:25

Spacehoppersrule · 15/02/2025 15:00

Am wondering why it’s acceptable to refer to Range Rovers as “chav mobiles” on here? I once went on a date with a man who called the bus a “peasant wagon” and I left immediately. Making judgements on people because of their transport choices is frankly odd.

Not odd at all, ones transport choice says alot about the person

vitahelp · 15/02/2025 16:25

LongDarkTeatime · 15/02/2025 16:20

As a point of principle if a large (clearly status-symbol, not working) SUV wants space to join/merge I’ll never give way.
Any other vehicle, yes, of course, it’s courteous to let them in. But as someone has decided to fuel the unneeded moving around of so much metal just because …. nah, you can wait.

This all sounds very tiring, I just drive and let people out when needed, I don’t filter based on car choice..commuting is hard enough work as it is!

ashamedtramp · 15/02/2025 16:24

LongDarkTeatime · 15/02/2025 16:20

As a point of principle if a large (clearly status-symbol, not working) SUV wants space to join/merge I’ll never give way.
Any other vehicle, yes, of course, it’s courteous to let them in. But as someone has decided to fuel the unneeded moving around of so much metal just because …. nah, you can wait.

how is an SUV an indication of status? and how do you know the driver is not working?

i've said i have an SUV.. its the only car i am able to get in and out of because of disabilities.. and i do work and i bought and paid for my SUV with my wages thank you very much.

i don't sit and scoff at the corsa drivers (insert other make or models of small car here), turn my nose up and assume their financial situation because of the car they drive. you drive what you drive, i drive what i do.

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