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Would you fall out with your adult child....

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charmanderflame · 15/02/2025 07:33

...If you felt they had criticised something about the way they were brought up?

My mum is currently not speaking to me because she feels I said something that criticised my upbringing.

It happened after she said she is going to dress my child up in pink frilly dresses like a little dolly if it's a girl (I'm currently pregnant). I said politely that we would rather go for more neutral clothing until they're old enough to choose.

She was annoyed, wouldn't accept it and kept needling me about why I 'won't let a baby girl look like a girl'.

So eventually I told her it was because I felt pressure in my childhood to look a certain way for her, which wasn't who I am, and I didn't really feel accepted for my true self. It's a personal preference and I just don't want to gender stereotype my baby before they can decide.

She is saying I am ungrateful and have made her feel like crap. She's giving me silent treatment and totally denied my feelings.

I know I probably shouldn't have said it but she was really pressuring me and winding me up about my parenting choices, and at the end of the day it's the truth.

YABU - yes I would fall out with my child if they said this.
YANBU - no, she should be a bit more humble and accept that no one is perfect

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duckie1 · 07/03/2025 20:53

HoraceCope · 15/02/2025 14:49

i bought my niece a beautiful white Babygro with pink roses on it,
is that wrong?

It is only wrong IF your niece's parents asked or told you not to and you did it anyway.

The dress sounds cute to me and it isn't wrong just because it has flowers or is frilly. The part that would make it wrong is if someone told you no and you didn't listen.

Louko · 23/02/2025 22:48

Bare in mind your child will probably find something they don’t like about their child hood no matter how hard you try to be the best parents. Times change who knows what will be ‘right’ or ‘wrong’ in twenty years ‘. Maybe it will be decided neutral colours aren’t good for babies intelligence and your child will ask you why they weren’t dressed in bright patterned garments 🤣

LoudBee · 23/02/2025 19:16

You are pregnant which means you accept yourself as female, if you have a baby of either gender, why put your insecurities on your child? They will be male or female, so don’t pressure your child to decide what gender they will be when they already are one?

DarcyProudman · 23/02/2025 19:13

saraclara · 15/02/2025 12:13

That. I don't criticise my (lovely) kids, but they have occasionally criticised decisions I made in my parenting. It hurts like hell (and they're very trivial things). I try not to let it show, and wouldn't fall out with them about it of course. But I don't think people realise what it feels to be on the other end of that.

Was I perfect? No but I was pretty damn good. And they're not perfect either, but I don't feel the need to tell them.

On Mumsnet people are hugely sensitive to a hint of criticism or advice from their parents, but feel justified in criticising them. Major issues aside, it's all a bit hypocritical.

So yes, your mum shouldn't have stopped speaking to you @charmanderflame but I don't think you recognise how much you hurt her, either. Let her lick her wounds, and hopefully she'll come round. And maybe think about occasionally referencing something she actually did right and that you appreciate.

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This! Times a million.

CliantheLang · 23/02/2025 17:29

SEETHROUGHFISH · 23/02/2025 10:14

I'm glad I'm not the only one that found that part odd. Are we really saying that people decide if they were born a boy or born a girl now? This is getting beyond ridiculous.

No. You're confusing gender stereotypes with sex.

Sex: All humans are either female or male.
Gender stereotype: Girls like pink and boys like blue.

SEETHROUGHFISH · 23/02/2025 10:14

MinnieBalloon · 15/02/2025 07:45

I just don't want to gender stereotype my baby before they can decide.

Decide what? You know they don’t get to decide their sex, right? It isn’t a choice. If you have a boy, they’re always going to be a boy. Same if you have a girl.

I'm glad I'm not the only one that found that part odd. Are we really saying that people decide if they were born a boy or born a girl now? This is getting beyond ridiculous.

Ronathediva13 · 23/02/2025 03:46

I don't think I'd want to fall out over it, depending on your mum's age she might have very different ideas to you and be set into outdated ideas.

Of course she has no right to tell you how to bring your child up or how to dress them but I can appreciate that not everybody is up to speed with modern gender norms. The hardest thing for me in all this is any mum thinking they can dictate how their grandchildren are brought up - as long as they are loved, happy and healthy it should be unconditional, whether you dress them in pink, blue, yellow or whatever! Maybe find a way to get that across (I know, easier said than done) as all children are beautiful no matter what they wear! Good luck!

Toffeebubbles · 23/02/2025 00:18

twinklystar23 · 15/02/2025 07:47

Sounds like shes taking the p* stating an extreme of overly stereotypical female clothing.
I tried everything not to have my baby son "stereotyped" the conclusion i came to was i could only do and influence what i could. I could not be constantly picking people up on everything, from comments (isnt he strong - hes a newborn baby ffs!) Or boys toys and clothes. It became more about striking a balance for fear of alienating people. Potentially isolating my son.

I've heard comments about babies being strong to male and female babies. I think generally some people are taken by surprise at how strong newborns grips are, because they expect them to be frail and weak.
I myself have said my female cousin was a strong baby, because even as a newborn, her build was much more solid than my sister's, who was the exact same age and her clasp was harder to get out of once she grabbed our fingers.

Cazza2024 · 22/02/2025 21:32

I think you handled the situation really well. The criticism, silent treatment and gas lighting are narcissistic behaviours. Some one wrote a lovely response about getting therapy. Having had a narcissistic mother, therapy transformed my life. I’m not saying your mum’s a narcissist, but being able to set boundaries is important, and that’s something a therapist can help you with.

Pupinskipops · 22/02/2025 18:50

You should have said it, you were perfectly within your rights to.

I'd just leave things as they are - not apologise or be proactive about contacting her but be open and welcoming to any contact she makes with you.

She feels hurt (not your fault!) because as far as she's concerned, she was doing what people did in those days. Being able to choose an identity with which you feel comfortable is a relatively new phenomenon. She probably needs time to process it, but I reckon she'll come round, particularly with a grandchild on the way.

Leaving the ball in her court will, I think, force her to think about her actions, past and present without a "get out" clause.

Missj25 · 17/02/2025 15:03

I don’t see the big deal in saying to your mum , you didn’t like the way she dressed you 🤷🏻‍♀️ & also that you’ll be doing you when it comes to dressing your baby 🤷🏻‍♀️
Sure none of these things are things to row about 😂 ..
Congrats on your pregnancy 🎈

pollymere · 17/02/2025 12:07

She has a right to feel upset and you had a right to air those feelings.

Don't make this the sword you fall on though. Most Mums are just trying to do their best with little guidance.

It's been said so make up and look forward to the birth of the baby together.

Rosejasmine · 17/02/2025 09:13

I think it’s strange she is causing stress to her pregnant daughter. I’m assuming she has a history of taking offence and behaving like this.
i think you are worrying too much about who said what. The fact it has tipped over into a full on sulk on her part is not good. I would be tempted to ignore, not pander to and feed her with the attention she is seeking. Ignore and step back whenever she behaves like this and don’t engage in arguments.

Treesandsheepeverywhere · 16/02/2025 23:01

Fighting over a baby that's not even here yet, when it should be a time to celebrate.

As others have said, you're projecting your ideas on your baby. Same way your dm did.
Why not accept the gifts and only dress her in those when visiting your dm?
When baby/young girl is old enough to choose, they could go shopping together.

You say you forgave her for dressing you a certain way, so why bring it up now?

Hope you can mend it OP. Of course it's hurtful to her as she thought she was doing her best.
SM is full of girls dressed in matching outfits with their mums, they haven't agreed and might have different styles when older, but not worth starting arguments over.

Iceboy80 · 16/02/2025 22:39

"It's a personal preference and I just don't want to gender stereotype my baby before they can decide"

Ahhhhh youre one of those, got help that poor child and anyone who agrees is part of the problem!

FofB · 16/02/2025 21:18

You sound very sensible OP- and you quite rightly understand that eventually, they will choose what they want. That's healthy. My youngest is currently having a black phase.

What's unhealthy is how she has responded. So I say this firmly now- you don't need to beg for forgiveness. You are about to be a Mum- you will be guiding and leading your daughter through life; and she will face many of these stupid assumptions (latest from a boy in my DD class "girls can't play football."

She doesn't need this shite from her Nan- and if she does, be prepared and strong enough to shut it down asap.

whoamI00 · 16/02/2025 21:09

I don't think pink frilly dresses are the real issue here. It seems like you want your mum to validate your feelings, but at the same time you're hurting her by bringing up how pressured you felt when you were younger. It's a difficult situation for both of you.

godmum56 · 16/02/2025 20:59

rugrets · 16/02/2025 20:27

All a bit woke though isn't it the whole "gender neutral until she's old enough to choose" nonsense - not surprised your mum bristled a bit

I think once the child themselves can choose then they should be able have what they want in terms of colour, sparkle and so on...or not if they don't want it. BUT children aren't dollies and its not up to others to say how a baby should be dressed. For a grandmother to say what she will dress the baby in is overstepping I think.

rugrets · 16/02/2025 20:27

All a bit woke though isn't it the whole "gender neutral until she's old enough to choose" nonsense - not surprised your mum bristled a bit

PansyP · 16/02/2025 20:18

Bornnotbourne · 15/02/2025 15:57

My mum is huge sulker and used to give me the silent treatment when she didn’t get her own. I’ve recently started therapy and the counsellor has told me this is abuse. I have to let her know each time she does that it’s unacceptable and I won’t respond to it. I was terrified at first and she has told a family friend I’m bullying her but turns out it’s very freeing. Honestly it’s harder parenting her than my own child. The sooner you draw the line the better, I allowed my parents to bully me for years and it’s hard to suddenly form healthy boundaries.

I feel this. Mine was the biggest sulker ever and what was even worse was she used to claim she didnt sulk. Which was pure gaslighting. I was so utterly confused for years, plus the constant belittling and being told how lazy/ungrateful/unlikeable i was didn't help. Im still only starting to scratch the surface of the damage she did

PansyP · 16/02/2025 20:15

charmanderflame · 15/02/2025 07:47

Oh I've had a lot of therapy, believe me😅But not since/ about pregnancy, so I'm sure you are right!
This is her first grandchild and it's causing friction and things are bubbling up. So maybe a bit more is on the cards.
I'm sorry you've had a similar experience! x

Yes... be prepared for lots of cans
of worms to be opened unexpectedly. Nothing makes you realise how fked up your own childhood was like having a kid of your own 😝

thepariscrimefiles · 16/02/2025 12:10

Moveoverdarlin · 15/02/2025 14:47

Loads of people give a flying fuck. After 3 boys I was delighted to buy pink baby gros with fairies and flowers on. My Mum and MIL were delighted to buy girly clothes too for the first grand daughter. It’s bonkers people aren’t allowed to say this anymore. I love my girl just the same as the boys but yeah buying pink pretty clothes was part of the appeal.

Of course you can say that you were delighted to dress your daughter in pink. OP's mum was obviously delighted to dress OP in pink, well past the baby stage where OP wouldn't be aware of how she was dressed.

It's now OP's turn to be a mother and she can dress her own baby how she wants. Her mother is just being goady and provocative.

Dogthespot · 16/02/2025 08:31

I suspect in about 3 years time, if the op comes across this thread, she will chuckle to herself as she looks her to see her toddler daughter walk in dressed in a pink princess outfit that she refuses to take off and is desperate to wear to nursery

Maddy70 · 15/02/2025 16:30

You hurt her feelings. Say sorry....

You are doing the same to your child as she did to you ,dressing how you think is appropriate

BoredZelda · 15/02/2025 16:06

It’s bonkers people aren’t allowed to say this anymore.
People are allowed to say it if they like. Just as people like the OP are allowed to say they will not be doing that. It isn't that GM said it, it's that when OP stated her preference GM got arsey then sulked when OP told her why.

I love my girl just the same as the boys but yeah buying pink pretty clothes was part of the appeal.

Each to their own. Now imagine your mum insisting she would be dressing your baby only in blue clothes. Happy with that? That is what is happening to the OP.