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dontsaystuff · 14/02/2025 21:58

One day when I was about 7/8 I remember my mum coming home visibly upset and rushing to the bathroom. I followed her to find her undressed, in tears and scrubbing at her skin. She was covered in arrows, dots and lines almost like surgical markings but on every inch of her skin.

She shut the door, I asked her about it often for the next couple of weeks she said that it was ‘just drawings’ and that she was fine. I could tell she continued to be upset by it and honestly feel like she changed since then.

I asked about it again a couple of years later and she completely denied it even happening, said it must have been a dream. The couple of other times I’ve asked about it she’s stuck to that story. I’d convinced myself that it might have been but it feels like it was such a clear l memory from my childhood, not just seeing her but the conversations we had after. I was very scared, confused and upset by it, still am.

Last year she got an upwards arrow tattooed on her wrist, she looked upset/guilty when I saw it. I’ve just seen a photo of her that shows a series of dashed lines tattooed on her other arm.

It’s driving me crazy, I can’t stop thinking about what could have happened, why she would get the tattoos and seeing her covered in the markings.

I understand that something upsetting obviously happened to her and why she wouldn’t want to tell me but
AIBU in thinking that it’s not fair to say I made it up especially when she’s gotten these tattoos?

OP posts:
rainbowstardrops · 15/02/2025 12:12

That's really strange and I can see why you're curious about the tattoos now. If your mum was upset back then and scrubbing her skin then that indicates that it was something that she didn't want. Possibly something against her will.
I'd ask her about the tattoos now.

ThinWomansBrain · 15/02/2025 11:59

this happened when you were a child - it was something your mother did not wish to share with you then, nor now
why are you unable to respect her privacy?

AgathaX · 15/02/2025 11:59

You said you don't need to know what happened, just that something did. This is making it about you rather than about your mum's trauma. Please don't do that. For whatever reason your mum doesn't want to talk to you about this. Please respect her decision. You have no idea of the pain you may cause her by making her think about this, much less trying to make her talk to you.

StMarie4me · 15/02/2025 11:53

Anewyearanewday · 15/02/2025 00:21

I googled it and it suggests some form of witchcraft.

Do you know much about your mum's younger days - was she alternative?

I would say cult/ witchcraft.

She probably got out of it if you were not aware of it growing up, which could be why she doesn't want to talk about it.

I think you need to make your peace with the fact that you'll never know.

CountingDownToSummer · 15/02/2025 11:52

@Janiie when has the mum said these images are upsetting?

LaceWingMother · 15/02/2025 11:48

Just some questions, OP

  1. Could your mum possibly have drawn the marks on her own body, or were there straight lines on her back?
  2. Were there any marks on her face, neck or hands?
  3. What colour/s were the marks?
  4. How do you know that the current marks are tattoos and not drawings?
  5. You said that she'd changed, after the incident. In what ways had she changed?
  6. Was there anyone else in the house at the time?
  7. Have you mentioned this to any other family members?
Thanks
Saggyknickers · 15/02/2025 11:48

My first thought is that she was involved in some kind of cult/witchcraft? Does this seem like something your mum would get involved in?

Maybe having the arrows/dots tattooed shows she still has some kind of connection to it.

Peclet · 15/02/2025 11:43

It is so difficult as she has denied it happening but something did happen.

I wonder if you can say- I don’t need to know anything more than my memory is real and not imagined and anything else is totally private. I will respect that. And if you do want to talk to me then I am here to only listen.

Zone2NorthLondon · 15/02/2025 11:41

You’re not going to get a resolution or answer,clearly she’ll not discuss it with you
All you can do is mentally file it under unknown and I would not persist with seeking an answer

Barrenfieldoffucks · 15/02/2025 11:41

Not all would. I assume they only would if they wanted to...if the mother here doesn't want to there is absolutely nothing wrong with that!

Janiie · 15/02/2025 11:40

AnAlpacaForChristmasPleaseSanta · 15/02/2025 11:36

Many concentration camp survivors viewed their number tattoos after the war as a sign of resilience over what they'd endured. The OPs mum may have got hers done for similar reasons. Still doesn't mean she wants to talk about it though.

Yes and they would share their experiences if asked.
Look, the parent doesn't have to tell her anything it is just a very weird thing to do. Say it didn't happen then get a tattoo of the very thing that didn't happen.

AnAlpacaForChristmasPleaseSanta · 15/02/2025 11:36

Janiie · 15/02/2025 11:26

She has got a tattoo of said upsetting images. It is bound to bring it all back and raise questions.

Many concentration camp survivors viewed their number tattoos after the war as a sign of resilience over what they'd endured. The OPs mum may have got hers done for similar reasons. Still doesn't mean she wants to talk about it though.

NurtureGrow · 15/02/2025 11:30

I disagree, that if you saw something as a child, you have a right to understand what it was, especially if troubling you.

Everyone is entitled to privacy, but you saw this and thus she should kindly explain, or at least give some explanation.

ie. I was spending time with some people and they did this, it upset me, I’m sorry it disturbed you.

It doesn’t have to be all the details.

dontsaystuff · 15/02/2025 11:27

lentilbake16 · 15/02/2025 11:07

Kindly....question yourself....why do you need this information?

My parents are dead, there are many questions. It's hard.

I don't know, I guess because she is alive and we see and speak to each other regularly. I don't necessarily need to know what happened just that something did.
It's weird to speak to her about big personal things when there's there's big thing that happened to her that she has lied about and said I imagined, that's not normal behaviour for her.

Obviously if it was someone I didn't have a close relationship with, I wouldn't consider asking them.

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RedHelenB · 15/02/2025 11:27

dontsaystuff · 15/02/2025 11:04

I think I am definitely going to ask her about it again, I haven't asked for several years.
But understand that if she doesn't tell me anything now, I will just have to accept it.

She's told you repeatedly, leave it alone.

Janiie · 15/02/2025 11:26

CountingDownToSummer · 15/02/2025 11:23

I wouldn't ask again.
You have asked multiple times and your mum has not told you anything despite having been given the opportunity. She obviously does not want to tell you, surely you must accept this.
Why do you think your right for information tops your mums right to privacy?

She has got a tattoo of said upsetting images. It is bound to bring it all back and raise questions.

CountingDownToSummer · 15/02/2025 11:23

I wouldn't ask again.
You have asked multiple times and your mum has not told you anything despite having been given the opportunity. She obviously does not want to tell you, surely you must accept this.
Why do you think your right for information tops your mums right to privacy?

Janiie · 15/02/2025 11:15

dontsaystuff · 15/02/2025 11:04

I think I am definitely going to ask her about it again, I haven't asked for several years.
But understand that if she doesn't tell me anything now, I will just have to accept it.

Just say 'Something upsetting did happen I remember it clearly, please do not gaslight and tell me it's all in my head You now have tattoos which obviously bring the whole thing back. What happend and why all the secrecy yet a tattoo which will raise questions?'.
Good luck.

Aspasia2 · 15/02/2025 11:14

The new tattoos might be a sign that she's processing things and perhaps more ready to talk.I would chose my moment but I would completely wade into it, ask why these tattoos look so much like the signs she was scrubbing away that day when I was 7. And I would tell her that I've been upset by that memory ever since.

She can't erase you out of the picture, you were there: she doesn't have to disclose what she doesn't want to disclose but she owes you an explanation.

lentilbake16 · 15/02/2025 11:07

Kindly....question yourself....why do you need this information?

My parents are dead, there are many questions. It's hard.

AnAlpacaForChristmasPleaseSanta · 15/02/2025 11:07

Janiie · 15/02/2025 11:00

She's had tattoos of the images! If she wanted it to be left in the past why on earth bring it all back up again.
The op was a dc disturbed by what she witnessed she has every right to ask for clarity.

What her mum chooses to do with her own body is her business and nothing to do with anyone else.

The OP has the right to ask for clarity, the mum has the right to refuse. If that causes the OP turmoil then she must find other ways to deal with it. She cannot keep chipping away at another person, who has the right to privacy.

Barrenfieldoffucks · 15/02/2025 11:05

ThreeMagicNumber · 14/02/2025 23:45

It's obviously something that was traumatic for her that she'd now rather not discuss and pretend it didn't happen. You needing to know, isn't more important than her wishes on this. I think in your shoes I'd park it as it doesn't sound like you will get any answers from her.

This. If you genuinely do have this memory, and it isn't an inadvertent fiction, then I would say you should leave this alone...you don't have the right to know everything.

dontsaystuff · 15/02/2025 11:04

I think I am definitely going to ask her about it again, I haven't asked for several years.
But understand that if she doesn't tell me anything now, I will just have to accept it.

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LoveWine123 · 15/02/2025 11:03

Janiie · 15/02/2025 11:00

She's had tattoos of the images! If she wanted it to be left in the past why on earth bring it all back up again.
The op was a dc disturbed by what she witnessed she has every right to ask for clarity.

And her mum has every right to privacy, especially if she has lived through something traumatic. People don’t get tattoos for other people, they do it for themselves.

Janiie · 15/02/2025 11:00

5128gap · 15/02/2025 10:44

I think you should leave your mum alone. Clearly something happened to her that was extremely upsetting and that she has no wish to share with you. Its not ideal obviously to try to convince you you imagined it, but through your intrusive curiosity (forgivable as a child, but not now you're a gown woman yourself) you've pushed her into a corner. Give her privacy and leave her be. It was never her intention you became aware if whatever happened to her and she owns you no explanation, nor do you need one.

She's had tattoos of the images! If she wanted it to be left in the past why on earth bring it all back up again.
The op was a dc disturbed by what she witnessed she has every right to ask for clarity.

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