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Mums strange lie

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dontsaystuff · 14/02/2025 21:58

One day when I was about 7/8 I remember my mum coming home visibly upset and rushing to the bathroom. I followed her to find her undressed, in tears and scrubbing at her skin. She was covered in arrows, dots and lines almost like surgical markings but on every inch of her skin.

She shut the door, I asked her about it often for the next couple of weeks she said that it was ‘just drawings’ and that she was fine. I could tell she continued to be upset by it and honestly feel like she changed since then.

I asked about it again a couple of years later and she completely denied it even happening, said it must have been a dream. The couple of other times I’ve asked about it she’s stuck to that story. I’d convinced myself that it might have been but it feels like it was such a clear l memory from my childhood, not just seeing her but the conversations we had after. I was very scared, confused and upset by it, still am.

Last year she got an upwards arrow tattooed on her wrist, she looked upset/guilty when I saw it. I’ve just seen a photo of her that shows a series of dashed lines tattooed on her other arm.

It’s driving me crazy, I can’t stop thinking about what could have happened, why she would get the tattoos and seeing her covered in the markings.

I understand that something upsetting obviously happened to her and why she wouldn’t want to tell me but
AIBU in thinking that it’s not fair to say I made it up especially when she’s gotten these tattoos?

OP posts:
Treesandsheepeverywhere · 15/02/2025 21:57

You being ready to comfort her doesn't mean she's ready to confront whatever it is.

It's like forcing someone to revisit their trauma just because you've decided it's the right time.

If she felt she could confide in you amd get your support, she would have by now.

Let her deal with it her own way and be there for her IF and WHEN she decides to talk about it.

There're things in my past I'd rather not talk about. Bringing them up irl would open up a can of worms.

It's filed away but I know I'll have to deal with it at some point.
Certainly wouldn't be happy having someone else decide when that should be.

You're an adult now OP. You have your DM around, appreciate that and realise that sometimes being supportive is not going digging.

EdithBond · 15/02/2025 21:50

OverTheTopOfTheMountain · 15/02/2025 18:49

I’ve experience trauma as a child.
It took me years to start seing it. It was so normal I was still in the ‘it’s my fault’ mode as an adult.
Now that I’m sorting through that, doing EMRD etc….things are finally settling down. The scales are falling from my eyes. And yes I would contemplate asking in a case like the OP.
When something has been affecting you all of your life, yes it’s ok to ask for clarification. Actually it would be ok to ask anyone, just not a mother.

Agree. Childhood trauma should be taken seriously, as it can be very damaging.

It should be acknowledged and those who suffered it be supported and work through it via therapy.

Sugargliderwombat · 15/02/2025 20:42

MyrtlethePurpleTurtle · 15/02/2025 13:43

Unless she were a contortionist, how would she b able to draw all over her body?

OP didn't say her mum did a full twirl for her when she walked in, her back could easily have been blank.

Lou205 · 15/02/2025 20:23

Instead of bring up the past again which has caused upset between you before, why don't you ask her about the tattoos this time instead? It might be a better way to get her to open up.

RoundSquareWithTriangles · 15/02/2025 20:14

Sorry you went through that, PaperAeroplane Flowers

PaperAeroplane · 15/02/2025 19:27

PaperAeroplane · 15/02/2025 19:08

As your mum was so upset when you witnessed her in the shower it could be possible that she'd been attacked and the markings on her body were from a police haven centre.
I has to use one over twenty five years ago, they circled injuries on my body and photographed them, they also use body map drawings.
I hope that hasn't happened to your mum but if it has even though your entitled to have a reaction to being witness to the aftermath I doubt the reason for your mum not wanting to talk about it are selfish ones.
It's an awful experience, do you think she could have suffered abuse from your dad. Maybe that's why she doesn't want to tell you?
I know a woman who has the dot dot dot and arrow tattoo, it signifies past present and future and the arrow can signify progression/moving forward.

According to Google They do still use body drawings to show injuries.
They did with me, like I said over twenty five years ago now, The hospitals the police use for these sort of things are called Havens. Mine was in south London, I'm guessing it's the same all over the country.

Mums strange lie
PaperAeroplane · 15/02/2025 19:08

As your mum was so upset when you witnessed her in the shower it could be possible that she'd been attacked and the markings on her body were from a police haven centre.
I has to use one over twenty five years ago, they circled injuries on my body and photographed them, they also use body map drawings.
I hope that hasn't happened to your mum but if it has even though your entitled to have a reaction to being witness to the aftermath I doubt the reason for your mum not wanting to talk about it are selfish ones.
It's an awful experience, do you think she could have suffered abuse from your dad. Maybe that's why she doesn't want to tell you?
I know a woman who has the dot dot dot and arrow tattoo, it signifies past present and future and the arrow can signify progression/moving forward.

OverTheTopOfTheMountain · 15/02/2025 18:58

@AnAlpacaForChristmasPleaseSanta i agree with that too.

AnAlpacaForChristmasPleaseSanta · 15/02/2025 18:54

@OverTheTopOfTheMountain When something has been affecting you all of your life, yes it’s ok to ask for clarification. Actually it would be ok to ask anyone, just not a mother.

I do agree with you but I also think it would be wise for the OP to consider and have a backup plan for what they'll do if no answers are forthcoming. That's why maybe making some plans for therapy might be a good move IMO.

OverTheTopOfTheMountain · 15/02/2025 18:49

Crumpies · 15/02/2025 17:32

But the OP is not a child anymore even if she is still her mother’s child.

I’ve experience trauma as a child.
It took me years to start seing it. It was so normal I was still in the ‘it’s my fault’ mode as an adult.
Now that I’m sorting through that, doing EMRD etc….things are finally settling down. The scales are falling from my eyes. And yes I would contemplate asking in a case like the OP.
When something has been affecting you all of your life, yes it’s ok to ask for clarification. Actually it would be ok to ask anyone, just not a mother.

NovemberMorn · 15/02/2025 18:41

dontsaystuff · 15/02/2025 17:35

If she were to tell me I do think I would be able to cope with it and support/comfort her.
I’ve imagined the worst scenarios so even if one of them was the truth, I’ve already kind of processed it.

But again when I ask, I won’t be asking that she tell me what happened just that something did.

Sometimes parents act strangely, sometimes we remember the event vividly years later, when we ourselves are adults.
I think in the case of abuse it should definitely be addressed, no matter how much time has passed.
In this case , the trauma your mum went through, and inadvertently you saw, bringing it all up again, even if your mother tells all, might make you feel better, what will it do for her?

Before you do broach the subject with her again, ask yourself which is the most important.

AnAlpacaForChristmasPleaseSanta · 15/02/2025 18:07

OverTheTopOfTheMountain · 15/02/2025 17:18

Yep, I get it.
But surely, the result as broken trust was obvious too?

Well yes and that was obviously a choice the OPs mum made. But as she's not the one posting about this we can't know how she feels about that.

dontsaystuff · 15/02/2025 17:35

If she were to tell me I do think I would be able to cope with it and support/comfort her.
I’ve imagined the worst scenarios so even if one of them was the truth, I’ve already kind of processed it.

But again when I ask, I won’t be asking that she tell me what happened just that something did.

OP posts:
Janiie · 15/02/2025 17:34

Crumpies · 15/02/2025 17:32

But the OP is not a child anymore even if she is still her mother’s child.

So upsetting things we experience as a child should just be forgotten once we are adults?
The parent can help her move on from this by just having an honest discussion. It is the least she can do.

Crumpies · 15/02/2025 17:32

MummyJ36 · 15/02/2025 17:15

I completely agree with this!!

But the OP is not a child anymore even if she is still her mother’s child.

OverTheTopOfTheMountain · 15/02/2025 17:18

AnAlpacaForChristmasPleaseSanta · 15/02/2025 15:37

@OverTheTopOfTheMountain obviously none of us can know what was going through the OPs mums head when she said that to her as a teenage but I can only imagine that she said it to try and ward off any other follow up questions.

Yep, I get it.
But surely, the result as broken trust was obvious too?

MummyJ36 · 15/02/2025 17:15

Alalalala · 15/02/2025 13:32

Posters keep saying the mum is an individual, leave her alone to process her trauma etc - and yes, I can see this. But - she is a mother with a responsibility to parent her child. For whatever reason she exposed her child to something disturbing and mysterious that has troubled that child ever since.

The OP should not be shamed for wanting clarity - for needing it.

I completely agree with this!!

OverTheTopOfTheMountain · 15/02/2025 17:13

Boomer55 · 15/02/2025 16:56

Does it really matter now? 🤷‍♀️

It does when you carry the trauma from it.

Janiie · 15/02/2025 16:58

Boomer55 · 15/02/2025 16:56

Does it really matter now? 🤷‍♀️

Clearly it matters to the op. Traumatic events can have a lasting impression particularly on dc and shouldn't be dismissed or minimised.

Boomer55 · 15/02/2025 16:56

Does it really matter now? 🤷‍♀️

Janiie · 15/02/2025 16:54

User3523526 · 15/02/2025 16:42

Yes, OP confirmed that she was left alone that day. It didn't seem like a very long time but 7 is still extremely young to do so. That alone suggests that MH, drugs, crime or esoterica might be related to the incident.

Edited

For that reason alone she has every right to pursue this. Who leaves a 7yr old alone?! Obviously there were serious issues be it mh or drugs problems but the op was involved as she was vulnerable and left alone, she saw her parent in a disturbed state and now has the tattoos rehashing it all.

User3523526 · 15/02/2025 16:42

Tumbler2121 · 15/02/2025 15:40

Apologies if this has been covered, but I couldn't see it ... the child was around 7 when her mum came home distressed .. weHre there no other adults in the house at the time? Had she been left home alone?

Yes, OP confirmed that she was left alone that day. It didn't seem like a very long time but 7 is still extremely young to do so. That alone suggests that MH, drugs, crime or esoterica might be related to the incident.

Aspasia2 · 15/02/2025 16:41

LoveWine123 · 15/02/2025 12:22

You are making this all about yourself and it’s not. Even your comment about how she left the bathroom door open must mean she wanted you to see her. Let your mother be and move on, it’s not about you.

Do you really think that as a parent you are in your own bubble and your actions only affect your child if and when you decide they do? Do you think you can dictate how someone deals with the fallout of something you did? That's not very responsible.

She didn't close that door and now OP has questions that need answering.

NovemberMorn · 15/02/2025 16:22

OverTheTopOfTheMountain · 15/02/2025 15:23

@NovemberMorn the difference between the OP and you is that, fir your mum, it happened before you were born. Whereas the OP witnessed the aftermath. She was part of it. She has memories of the incident.

Telling her it was just drawings when she was 6yo was not a surprising answer. It certainly didn’t take into account how traumatic it was then for the OP to see her mum so distressed. But you can also understand why.
Telling her it didn’t happen/lying/gaslighting her as a teen wasn’t.

The point is that the tragedy my own mum suffered distressed her so much she didn't ever want to talk about it.
From what the OP says, whatever her mum went through, she didn't want to talk about it...not then, not now.

In hindsight, perhaps OP's mum shouldn't have told her months later she had dreamt it, but that sounds like a mother trying to protect her child, not gaslighting her.

Chuchoter · 15/02/2025 16:20

Alien abduction.