Old(er) men creeping on young women [at work]

Can you expand on that?

My take is that the customer’s sex, age and that he’s a Brit are all part of an abuse of power on a worker who is young, female and not British.

They are not equals in this scenario and he knows it, as does she.

Denying that simply endorses and enables his behaviour.

Don't be ridiculous

He was literally licking his lips?!?!

So many excellent new details to make your point.

Exactly.

There are some weird comments in this thread, and some that just display the writer’s lack of empathy or ability to imagine someone else’s point of view.

As a woman who was often alone abroad when I was younger, sometimes in places where I didn’t speak the language fluently, I thank everyone like OP who wants to help and protect strangers.

OP, you did the right thing. Many years ago as a 20-something on a train in France, a man sat opposite me masturbating. My French was pretty good - my grandmother was French and although I didn't have anything like a bilingual upbringing I got by very well in most situations. But I realised that I completely lacked the vocabulary to deal with the situation as well as the cultural knowhow to know what to do about it (or describe it). I would have been delighted if someone had stepped in to help out a young foreign woman. Nobody did.

You don’t understand power dynamics, do you? You may as well say she shouldn’t have mentioned their sex either.

you did the right thing OP. I understand why you mentioned non-native in this context, as unfortunately a lot of creepy older men view certain nationalities such as Thai / Filipino women as being more submissive and bidding than perhaps a Russian or French woman.
you did the right thing

Most British people are also 'polite and entertaining' in a customer facing role. We are known for being so bloody polite someone could burn our house down in front of us, and we'd just utter ssomething like "I say old boy, that wasn't very sporting of you..."
So trying to use this as an excuse for mentioning she was 'non-native' is merely disingenuous.

And the significance of mentioning her being non-native English is?
And the breathy narrative?
Both totally unnecessary

OP makes a post about how she helped a woman who was being harassed by a creepy man. Briefly mentions her being young, him being old, her not being British, her being an employee, him being the customer, the man's gender and her gender to show there was multiple clear power imbalances that the creepy man was clearly preying upon.

Mumsnet squeals "YOU'RE A BIG FAT RACIST OP! I'M OFFENDED!"

Ignore them, OP. You don't need to explain yourself. Mumsnet is just plain weird sometimes.

You did a great thing and I'm sure the woman will remember you fondly. I hope this encourages more of us stick up for women like you did.

If you're offended, that's your problem. You have no right not to be offended. Just grow up and deal with it.

A lot of people assume my friend is Russian based kn her looks so they come to her at a bar to ask for sexual favours and asking for price. When she starts talking and they realise she's not, they back away. One of my oldest friends is Vietnamese origin and then she goes sout with Vietnamese friends she gets offered money for sex (they assume she's recently moved Thai) but if she's out with us white people then nobody does this. This doesn't mean that brits don't get assumed they're prostitutes or men can't be creeps to anyone and everyone.

Actually maybe the woman's age is irrelevant as well. Or either of their gender. And all adjectives...maybe even prepositions ans adverbs.

Op, you did good. And your description of the event was fine and relevant. Doesn't mean brits don't get creeper on but the vibe is differnet. I dunno why the weird snowflake woke side of mumsnet was th first to comment which invited the others to comment. And this is coming form a millennial woke snowflake who is also non-native and foreigner.

Unfortunately it can be,I was on an over 50s employability course and there were two younger Ukrainian women there (help with employability tips and the barriers of coming from another country).
Anyhow we were talking about sexism in the workplace and I was talking about how rife it was in the industry I worked in and they started telling things they'd encountered from men talking filth about them because they didn't think their English was good and didn't understand what was going on.

Christ, it's snowflake central around here.

OP, you did the right thing

No crime done. I would not try to justify that I was the knight in shining armour, rescuing a woman from the clutches of a roving eye. That woman and many other women are very smart and strong, and have the know-how to use a less aggressive tone, purposely keeping their responses mild, soft and kind, to stop a man making unwanted advances.

An aggressive defence is not always the winning move.

Age is not irrelevant because it can indicate a power dynamic, a power imbalance, or a potential mismatch.

So it would have been OK had the man been the woman's age? That is the only conclusion that can be reached given the OP's OP.

I'll save you the thinking time: no.

Age is irrelevant. Ageist thread.

Please ignore the haters. I have been a stranger in a strange land many times as a young woman. I have always been grateful to the people who stepped in to help me, comfort me, protect me from inappropriate interactions with others. Now I am an old woman I wouldn’t hesitate to pay the kindness back by stepping in to protect a younger person from creepy or aggressive behavior.

oh and for FUCK’s SAKE you don’t have to apologize for identifying the age, sex, or national origin of the participants in this story ir for accepting a hug.

Yeah, AIBU is batshit at the best of times never mind a Friday night 😂 🍷

God forbid you do something good for someone.