Please or to access all these features

AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

Kids giving other kids valentines gifts

161 replies

Eviemai · 14/02/2025 16:42

So my DD is 5, she’s in her first year of school and today she has come out of school quite teary. Her class only has 14 kids, 6 girls and 8 boys. Shes very close to 2 of the girls in the class but they all play together.

One of the little girls came out of school today with a rose, a little teddy bear, balloon and some sweets or similar. I joked to her mum “oh someone was popular”. Another little girl followed with a rose and teddy bear. Got chatting to the parents and realised that 4 of the little boys had given valentines gifts and cards to 2 of the girls, 3 to one girl and one to another. The rest of the kids weren’t part of it at all. DD got a little upset saying no one got her a valentines, I took her to the shop and let her pick some sweets and got her some flowers for her room but she still seems sad.

TBH I’m confused as to why this is a thing? Since when did little boys take valentines presents in for little girls? AIBU to think it’s really weird and if it is going to happen it should be done outside of school so no one gets their feelings hurt.

OP posts:
New posts on this thread. Refresh page
Iloveeverycat · 16/02/2025 16:05

Catza · 14/02/2025 16:46

This has always been a thing, as far as I am aware. We did "Valentine's post" at school (anonymous cards) and that was in the 90s.

At 5

TheMeasure · 16/02/2025 16:03

"So because someone else’s feelings get hurt others can’t share nice things."

No, it's because it's a bloody SCHOOL, not a dating agency.

desperatedaysareover · 16/02/2025 07:47

@mathanxiety

Sure, that sounds great, I’m glad it’s working.

pinkstripeycat · 16/02/2025 07:34

So because someone else’s feelings get hurt others can’t share nice things. Bloody hell OP! That’s life!

I can just imagine your kid as an adult winging that their feelings are hurt because someone else got the job they wanted! 😂

HuckleberryBlackcurrant · 16/02/2025 07:29

@Nothitrockbottomyet

It's a HUGE thing in the US. Every kid brings in Valentine's for thr whole class which includes sweets and trinkets.

This year I made gift bags for my kids' classmates that included bubbles, a heart shaped straw, Valentine's themed sweets and stickers. I know it sounds ridiculous. But everyone does it and I don't want my kids to be left out. The amount of sweets they get is obscene.

Plus each class has a Valentine's Party with activities, games and drinks and snacks.

My MIL even got my kids a Valentine treat, and my kids brought stuff for me and my husband home from school, cards etc. ridiculous really.

dafa · 16/02/2025 07:14

My son sent a small gift for his “girlfriend” he is 6, they have been “boyfriend/girlfriend” for months. We exchanged gifts after school, outside the gates.

He asked to spend his pocket money on a little gift, was a £2 small teddy. I said he could take it in but only give it to her after school so she wouldn’t have it in the classroom where she may feel embarrassed or get told off for having a toy.

I do think there should be a general rule, that exchanges happen outside of the classroom.

mathanxiety · 16/02/2025 02:08

desperatedaysareover · 15/02/2025 09:26

Hey, @mathanxiety unfortunately you’ve misquoted me.

Re: compulsion and meaning. ‘If everyone is compelled to write a card to everyone else, most will have no meaning at all.’ was the full sentence. Splitting the sentence changes the meaning, I don’t know if you’d noticed.

Valentine’s cards can indeed have a variety of meanings and intentions, and romance wasn’t mentioned there. A lot of posters said there was a system in their school whereby if their kids wanted to send a card to someone in the class, it had to be to everyone in class. So that means you either send a card to everyone or no-one, right? Which also means if you want to make an overture of friendship to the freckly red-headed boy who likes the same stuff as you, or just big up your best mate, you must ask everyone to be your Valentine, That is compelled, because sending one is conditional on sending many, and as other PPs have said, not in the spirit of a Valentine, which means as far as I am aware ‘I like you.’ What is the meaning of the card from Sarah who told me I couldn’t come to her sleepover cos I am so fat I wouldn’t fit through her front door and which I only got cos the school said she had to send it?

Going the other direction, it could mean a kid who wanted to send a card to their one best friend also had to send one to their bully. I can see how adults might feel it’s encouraging unity, but I can also see how it’s encouraging dissonance. It’s sad some children aren’t nice to others, but not sad to acknowledge that kids know this. Wishing they didn’t have to experience social difficulties or unpleasantness isn’t the same as asking them to ignore the fact they do.

What have I just read?
How about encouraging small children to make sure their classmates don't experience rejection or exclusion or any other form of torment or bullying, and trying to bring out the best in the students so as to create a positive learning atmosphere?

Absolutely how about it. Sounds bang on. I don’t see how the two can’t co-exist. I agree we should constantly encourage our children to think of how others may feel before they act, to be nicer to each other, to include others; it should lead to a better society, and some kids apparently just don’t get that memo. I’d love it if schools could simply get this single message over - leaving people to go about their day in peace even if you don’t like them is never a bad strategy. It’s a knack some kids - and adults - just won’t learn. Just not sure how that’s furthered by blanket gestures one day a year.

What sort of a school has a culture where girls and boys as young as 9 (!) are into the boy-girl shite already?

You’ll hear no argument from me. Seem to be a lot of posters on here saying there is ‘boy-girl shite’ aplenty going on, so I don’t know that it was down to the choice of school. Perhaps we should have told him what we actually thought - that having a ‘girlfriend’ at 9 is social contagion caused by the media, retail and some parents. That’s certainly what some people would have done from the outset; my own parents wouldn’t have entertained the idea. Since she’d already asked him to go out with her, and he accepted, we felt it was better to let things be as they were, and use it as a chance to discuss attitudes towards the opposite sex. From little acorns mighty oak trees grow and all that.

There is nothing wrong with learning in childhood that everything is not for everyone. It helps to build personal resilience. Quite a few other posters have legitimately said they have concerns about the resilience of young adults that the ‘everyone is special’ narrative has led to, and I don’t see you getting up their arse.

I can think of a couple of recent examples of compelled communication and inclusion where some involved could definitely have done with building a bit of resilience. It’s a good lesson to learn early - sometimes it’s just not your day, you can’t have your way, it’s someone else’s turn. That lesson can co-exist with treating everyone as being of value and worthy of respect.

All I can say to that is that Velentine's Day as experienced in US schools has nothing to do with romantic gestures, the freckly red-haired boy who likes moths as much as you do, or in fact personal overtures of any kind.

The entire point of it is to promote kindness. Everyone has to spend a day being kind.

It is done in the context of schools that seem to be doing a far better job of promoting kindness than British schools seem to do. There is absolutely nothing wrong with promoting kindness in a school. It goes a long way toward reducing - wait for it - unkindness in all its forms, believe it or not. It's not a once a year thing.

There is everything wrong with promoting or smiling indulgent at elementary aged children giving romantic or amorous cards or gifts to children of the opposite sex and the statement that the inevitable leaving out of other children in such scenarios is a necessary character builder. What you're suggesting is that parents and teachers turn a blind eye to inappropriate relationships, to sexism, and to unkindness. If this is acceptable in British schools, I'm sorry for the children.

mathanxiety · 16/02/2025 01:53

StrikeAlways · 15/02/2025 20:20

America has stuck again. Apparently, everyone ‘does’ Valentine’s Day (or should I say Valentines) there and now it’s happening here!

You've seen lots of posts from people who have fond memories of Valentine's Day traditions like giving classmates cards in the UK in the 70s, 80s, and 90s but you still think it's yet another dratted American thing?

Octopies · 16/02/2025 00:35

80s kid and I still have an odd memory of my Mum suggesting (forcing) I give my classmate a Valentines card and him getting really upset (crying) over it. I have no idea where her rationale came from as she was pretty conservative and shunned all American traditions like trick or treat!

marmaladeandpeanutbutter · 16/02/2025 00:15

It's a bit grim. The teacher should stop it.

Hmm1234 · 15/02/2025 23:31

Eviemai · 14/02/2025 16:42

So my DD is 5, she’s in her first year of school and today she has come out of school quite teary. Her class only has 14 kids, 6 girls and 8 boys. Shes very close to 2 of the girls in the class but they all play together.

One of the little girls came out of school today with a rose, a little teddy bear, balloon and some sweets or similar. I joked to her mum “oh someone was popular”. Another little girl followed with a rose and teddy bear. Got chatting to the parents and realised that 4 of the little boys had given valentines gifts and cards to 2 of the girls, 3 to one girl and one to another. The rest of the kids weren’t part of it at all. DD got a little upset saying no one got her a valentines, I took her to the shop and let her pick some sweets and got her some flowers for her room but she still seems sad.

TBH I’m confused as to why this is a thing? Since when did little boys take valentines presents in for little girls? AIBU to think it’s really weird and if it is going to happen it should be done outside of school so no one gets their feelings hurt.

I think it’s weird too and way too early. The type of mums getting excited by this stuff locally seem to be the chavvy type

StrikeAlways · 15/02/2025 22:54

steff13 · 15/02/2025 22:23

We haven't done anything. We are entitled to celebrate Valentine's Day however we like. If y'all choose to follow suit that's on you.

I know. I agree. We seem to import so much OTT stuff from the US.

steff13 · 15/02/2025 22:23

allfurcoatnoknickers · 15/02/2025 17:52

Same here. I'm also in the US we take class valentines, but we get a stern email saying you have to bring them for everyone in the class or not at all.

Individual valentines would be seen as wildly inappropriate in primary.

Absolutely.

steff13 · 15/02/2025 22:23

StrikeAlways · 15/02/2025 20:20

America has stuck again. Apparently, everyone ‘does’ Valentine’s Day (or should I say Valentines) there and now it’s happening here!

We haven't done anything. We are entitled to celebrate Valentine's Day however we like. If y'all choose to follow suit that's on you.

hiddeneverythin · 15/02/2025 22:13

Aw I think it’s cute and it’s always been a thing as far as I remember. I asked my seven year old on Wednesday night if he wanted to make any cards and he decided to make two - one for a girl in his class who he has become friends with recently and another for his student teacher. Completely innocent and wishing them a happy Valentine’s Day.

StrikeAlways · 15/02/2025 20:20

Eviemai · 14/02/2025 16:44

Yes, England, the kids are all 4-5.

America has stuck again. Apparently, everyone ‘does’ Valentine’s Day (or should I say Valentines) there and now it’s happening here!

pebbles8811 · 15/02/2025 19:37

It’s always been a thing in schools even when I was a kid in the 90’s and my son had a gf in primary and used to ask me to take him to asda to buy her a card and small gift on valentines and she’d do the same with her mum. My daughter is p1 and they made cards on Thursday to give to their mum, dad or other relative they wanted and she made hers for her big brother. She never got one card and didn’t care as she asked me to make her a fancy dinner which was steak pie lol.
she will get over it she’s still little just tell her once she’s a big girl she will get one or encourage your husband to buy her a card and a small bunch of flowers on Valentine’s Day every year she will love it

90Mumof2 · 15/02/2025 19:35

I am 34 years old, every Valentines my Mum would buy me and my siblings a card and a little present, from the Valentines fairy. To remind us, what ever happens, there is always someone that loves us!

I had been married for about 3 years, when she finally stopped doing it for me.

I continued this tradition with my 2 children- to remind them, there is always someone that loves them, no matter what!

During covid, we started having a valentines meal, as a family- an extra day, to remind each other, what ever happens, we are there for each other and will always love each other.

Since from reception class, my son has always given a card and little present to his ‘girlfriend’- he asked, as he wanted to show her he liked her, they both turned up on the school playground with presents for each other!

My daughter gave her first valentines this year too- she is year 1- and again he had something for her too! They were the only two in their class- we have known them for years- as his sister and my son are in the same class.

Valentines for our family is to show each other; they will always have someone who will be there for them! Every family is different!

My personal opinion, it was a perfect time for you to start a little family tradition….if you think it is so wrong to give gifts, why did you then go buy herself something?

At school, there are going to be lots of things that are not fair- star of the week; sports day, head teacher awards, cross country etc etc, the list goes on. Teaching our kids how to deal with these moments is the only thing we can do as parents! It’s not fair to put a damper on other people’s happiness!

CheeryDuck · 15/02/2025 19:19

My 6year old got a card on Thursday and on Friday got a card and presents from someone else. Last year she got a card, some sweets and a pound 😂 had no idea it was a thing for kids so young but seems to be.

TheMeasure · 15/02/2025 18:23

School
Is not the appropriate place for any gifts, let alone Valentine ones, to be brought in. Leaving aside the made-up Hallmark card nature of the date, it just creates distraction, division and upset.
God, we have enough problems with football stickers.

allfurcoatnoknickers · 15/02/2025 17:52

steff13 · 14/02/2025 17:03

I'm in the US and it has been "a thing" here for as long as I've been alive. And there was a Charlie Brown special about it that originally aired in 1975. So, 50 years

The caveat here is that kids and parents are told that if you're going to participate in handing out Valentine's card to your class, you have to bring one for everyone in the class.

Same here. I'm also in the US we take class valentines, but we get a stern email saying you have to bring them for everyone in the class or not at all.

Individual valentines would be seen as wildly inappropriate in primary.

PopGoesTheWeazel · 15/02/2025 17:40

I see no reason why kids shouldn't be able to bring gifts in for their friends. Some kids will always get more attention than others and it's not up to us to protect our kids from seeing others being more fortunate. Throughout our whole lives, some people get better breaks than other, twas ever thus and ever shall be!

TheMeasure · 15/02/2025 17:30

Flat-out not allowed at my school (where I work). Head has effectively banned all mention of "boyfriends/girlfriends" too. If it goes on outside of school, that's up to the parents but not in school. The amount of hassle and upset that's caused by age-inappropriate nonsense (being dumped etc) is insane.

JillMW · 15/02/2025 17:18

It had to come out soon. People were beginning to wonder why Dr Who and I are never seen in the same room😂

BobbyBiscuits · 15/02/2025 14:49

So what if they gave gifts to their little friends?
I used to love getting valentines chocolates from my dad when I was a kid. He did it from about age 5 to 12. It made me feel really special and loved.
Of course you don't just frame it as romantic love only for primary kids. They're too young to know the concept of that kind of love. They understand love for people in their lives who've been nice to them and cared for them. I don't see what's wrong with interpreting it that way for children.

Swipe left for the next trending thread