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to call my cockerpoo a poodle?

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Thebiggerthecoffeethebetter · 14/02/2025 07:43

I rescued him last year. I did health testing via a DNA sample as I have done with my other rescues in the past. It can give you an idea of what you might need to prepare for in the future.

Anyway, it also tells you the breed make up and turns out he is 82% poodle which does not surprise me.

WIBU to say he is a poodle when people ask about him? He looks like a poodle, acts like a poodle and turns out is overwhelmingly poodle...🤷🏼‍♀️

I'm just so acutely aware of all the doodle hate and judgement 😭

(obvs his vet record and insurance has the breed make up)

OP posts:
Holdonforsummer · 14/02/2025 17:35

i have had a cockapoo for 4 years and never once encountered ‘doodle hate’…. Think you might be over thinking this

Frowningprovidence · 14/02/2025 17:25

I don't understand the instance around saying Mongrel.

If you say come meet my mongrel I have zero idea what to expect.

If someone says puggle, or yorkipoo or staffadoor, I have a good idea what I will see. And it's quicker than saying a pug and beagle cross.

SemperIdem · 14/02/2025 17:23

The thing is, whilst all the poodle crosses are indeed simply crossbreeds at the moment, it is likely that some (though not all) of them may become recognised breeds in their own right.

Lots of recognised breeds originated as cross breeds, often the original breeds in question have become extinct over time. Probably due to the greater popularity of the crossbreeds created from them.

Reallybadidea · 14/02/2025 17:21

EmmaMaria · 14/02/2025 17:05

You have a mongrel. Makes me laugh how people have become infatuated with the idea that a mongrel can be worth a fortune if you think up a silly name for it. Capitalism at it's best - 50 years ago you couldn't have charged a tenner for a mongrel, but give it a fancy name and it's suddenly worth £thousands.

The dog in question is a rescue so not sure why you're making snide comments at the OP who certainly won't have paid thousands for it.

SemperIdem · 14/02/2025 17:19

@Grammarnut mine dances too!

EmmaMaria · 14/02/2025 17:05

You have a mongrel. Makes me laugh how people have become infatuated with the idea that a mongrel can be worth a fortune if you think up a silly name for it. Capitalism at it's best - 50 years ago you couldn't have charged a tenner for a mongrel, but give it a fancy name and it's suddenly worth £thousands.

chocmalt · 14/02/2025 16:59

We had a family dog that was a poodle cross, way back before they were popular, in the 80s. He was a wonderful dog and lived a long life. Anyone who has an issue with poodle crosses is being rather stupid, imho. It's best to ignore them. I gather it's an unpopular opinion on here, but often mixed breed dogs look better and are healthier than purebred dogs, anyway.

JudgementalRaccoon · 14/02/2025 16:43

People are so funny and snobby over poodle crosses. I’m quite happy to call my two a Labradoodle and a Cavapoo - I know they’re not KC recognised breeds; I don’t care, people generally recognise what I mean by the name. Do all the people loftily insisting that they must only be referred to as mongrels (which is also nothing to be embarrassed about!) realise that your ‘pure-bred’ breeds also usually came into being by selective cross-breeding? The Labrador has only been registered as a breed for a little over a hundred years, having originally been bred from St John’s Water Dogs (also a mish-mash of other breeds originally) and British hunting dogs. Dog breeds evolve over time, and they’re all wonderful!

tropicalroses · 14/02/2025 16:26

FoolishHips · 14/02/2025 16:18

People in real life don't care whether your dog is a doodle....only on MN!!

I care sometimes when people talk about dog breeds. For example if you are thinking about getting a particular dog because the ones you know behave in a certain way it can be important. If you have been impressed by a dog for one reason or another and you ask about it and the owner isn't truthful about the breed then your research becomes a bit dodgy.

AcquadiP · 14/02/2025 16:23

Hoppinggreen · 14/02/2025 16:14

That's not the Kennel Club's definition.

"A crossbred dog usually comes from parents that are from two distinctive breeds, or from several generations of dogs that were originally made up from two breeds. Crossbreeds often have a mix of their parent’s traits and characteristics, so it's important to think about how this mix could affect the puppies. Some popular crossbreeds have nicknames that combine the names of their parents’ breeds, such as ‘Labradoodle’ (Labrador Retriever and Poodle) or ‘Cockerpoo’ (Cocker Spaniel and Poodle). Crossbreeds with these nicknames are often referred to as ‘designer dogs."

"Mixed-bred dogs don’t usually have a pedigree or a known family tree and are either made up of three or more breeds, or they may come from parents whose breed combinations are unknown. Not knowing which breed combinations make up a dog can make it very difficult to predict how the puppies will look, their temperament, and if they will be at risk of health problems."

Retriever (Labrador) | Breeds A to Z | The Kennel Club

Characteristics, health and breeding details of the Retriever (Labrador), to help you decide if this breed is right for you.

https://www.thekennelclub.org.uk/search/breeds-a-to-z/breeds/gundog/retriever-labrador/

FoolishHips · 14/02/2025 16:18

People in real life don't care whether your dog is a doodle....only on MN!!

Hoppinggreen · 14/02/2025 16:14

AcquadiP · 14/02/2025 16:11

A mongrel is a dog whose parentage is not known but it's unlikely both parents are purebreds. They're also known as mixed breed.
A first cross is a dog whose parents are known and both parents are purebreds. My dog is a first cross: Black Lab mum x Border Collie dad.

Nope
MONGREL | English meaning - Cambridge Dictionary

mongrel

1. a dog whose parents are of different breeds 2. used to describe something of…

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/mongrel

AcquadiP · 14/02/2025 16:11

ExpressCheckout · 14/02/2025 09:04

Poodle or Poodle Cross. Mongrel if it's an older person you are speaking with. You choose.

Cavapoo etc. basically means 'mongrel with a £2500 mark-up' 😂

Edited

A mongrel is a dog whose parentage is not known but it's unlikely both parents are purebreds. They're also known as mixed breed.
A first cross is a dog whose parents are known and both parents are purebreds. My dog is a first cross: Black Lab mum x Border Collie dad.

canyon2000 · 14/02/2025 16:04

I did meet a wanky crossbreed dog owner once - I asked if his dog was a labradoodle and he said very grandly " Oh no, she's a Golden Doodle" like a) I'm supposed to know what the hell that is and b) I should be really impressed!

canyon2000 · 14/02/2025 16:01

He's a bitzer!

yumyum33 · 14/02/2025 15:58

I have a pedigree toy poodle. That's a poodle. You don't have a poodle. You have a poodle cross.

tropicalroses · 14/02/2025 15:58

Thebiggerthecoffeethebetter · 14/02/2025 12:40

Herewith exhibit A of aforementioned doodle hate and judgement....

I thought it was a funny comment. You may be a little oversensitive?

Hoppinggreen · 14/02/2025 15:57

MrsPerfect12 · 14/02/2025 09:03

I have a Cockapoo and only ever met one twat that corrected me to mongrel. If your dog is a Cockapoo it's a Cockapoo.

Its a mongrel
I might be a twat but your dog is a mongrel, nothing wrong with that but its a fact.

Tessasanderson · 14/02/2025 15:54

Thebiggerthecoffeethebetter · 14/02/2025 12:40

Herewith exhibit A of aforementioned doodle hate and judgement....

I wouldnt call it hate. I have a doodle and think i would prefer to refer to it as a wankerdoodle too. Imagine the person who asked the questions face. It would be brilliant.

ThinWomansBrain · 14/02/2025 12:57

"If its 80% poodle, tell them she is a poodle cross"

From the OP, the dog is male, don't turn it into yet another trans-bashing thread 😂

ThinWomansBrain · 14/02/2025 12:51

seriously - how many people actually ask what breed he is?
I talk to lots of people with dogs - or mostly the dogs (but always ask first)
I might ask what their name is, how old they are - but very very rarely-ish what breed - mostly only if they are very unusual looking - a dog I see regularly is a spanish water dog with dreadlocks.
Surely if he looks poodle, most people will assume that - if anyone does ask, just say mostly poodle.

unsync · 14/02/2025 12:50

He's not a poodle though, he's a cross breed. Poodle implies pure breed/pedigree. There are a couple of poodles that live on the same road as me, a Standard and a Toy, cracking looking dogs.

FastFood · 14/02/2025 12:44

Just say "oh he's a rescue" so people know that you're a morally superior person

Thebiggerthecoffeethebetter · 14/02/2025 12:40

Miaowzabella · 14/02/2025 12:04

I think of all the poodle crosses as wankerdoodles.

Herewith exhibit A of aforementioned doodle hate and judgement....

OP posts:
OrlandointheWilderness · 14/02/2025 12:40

Crossbreed is breed 1 X breed 2. It's a mix of two. Mongrel is a mix of 3 or more.
I'd just say he was a crossbreed or a poodle cross!

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