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To think our house is making DC sick

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Concernedmum23 · 14/02/2025 00:03

Please, need some urgent help.

DC is 4. She used to be lively, happy and full of energy. Since about late October time she started getting colds. We thought the usual, oh it's that time of the year. Except the colds never went away and kept on coming. Since then she's been ill and "congested" every single day. She now looks pale, yes I know it's winter time but she has this weird tint to her that she gets when is run down. She has big black bags under her eyes, her energy is higher but restless and irritable. Again, we thought it could be down to her age and a phase but now I'm not so convinced. As well as permanently being congested and always choking on it, she's become highly wired at night time. She wakes up multiple times during the night sleep talking/walking. The other day she randomly woke up, complained of pain, vomited and then was fine?

The thing is we live with family and can not afford to move out at the moment. The house, to me anyways, seems riddled with black mold. When I bring this to DH or his families attention I get shut down. But there is evidence of black mold, in the corners by windows. On the floor, in the carpets, in the corners of the wall/skirting. At its worst it can go up into the ceiling and this is all just the visible external part of it, god knows what is happening behind the walls. I'm worried her sudden onset of illness and not seeming to get better despite the diet change, heavy vitamins ect is due to black mold poisoning? DH claims it's common from old homes to get this, but surely not every week/month? We clean the mold and it seems to return with about that time frame. If left untreated it can get really bad. The wall paper in the house in many places is peeling/bubbled but again it gets dismissed from just being an old house.

I feel convinced that unless it's a random allergy she has developed it's the house doing this. Her symptoms align with black mold exposure but no one seems to take me seriously. Also there isn't really anything we can do about it being in the financial predicament we are in.

The drs don't seem concerned. They have referred her to an ent and said her to sols look big but that it's "normal for most kids and she will grow into them". This feels more than that, and I'm scared for my child despite being shut down by everyone. Gp won't even do basic allergy/asthma tests on her. I'm at a loss and so so worried. Help!!!

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tillymintt · 15/02/2025 19:28

get a dehumidifier in her room and shut her bedroom door to the rest of the house. Air it out and remove mould with white vinegar first.

RoachFish · 15/02/2025 19:27

@Youagain2025 I agree that it’s hard, especially without income, but their DD is already very sick from living in the house so and the tenants won’t do anything about it so staying just isn’t an option. It might be a gamble but they know their DD is suffering so not changing their housing is pretty much just neglect. It might mean they need to get jobs but that’s only fair.

LawfulSearch · 15/02/2025 19:22

Have a look at aspergillosis on the NHS website to see if the symptoms look familiar to you.

Youagain2025 · 15/02/2025 19:13

I think its hard for op . She's living in someone else's house. When ever she tries to mention the damp she gets closed down by everyone. That's not easy.

It's not easy to private rent anymore. If op and her partner needs help via UC to help with the rent. Its almost impossible to find a landlord who will accept that.

They can't just leave where they are living and go to the council. as the council will say they made themselves intentionally homeless. The only thing is if their family told them to leave in writing . Then they could go via the council.

Even then depending on their area they could wait anything from a few months to 10 years + to get housed . In the mean time they would be in temporary accommodation which could be anything from a really lovely house. To a room with shared facilities and damp /mould/vermin.

Daftypants · 15/02/2025 18:58

I grew up in a house like that which has left me with lifelong issues such as allergies, constant rhinitis , sinusitis and asthma .
It might be structural issues causing water ingress so that needs to be investigated.
If no structural issues , then the house needs to be heated , ventilated , dehumidifier run , furniture moved and cleaned behind with mould cleaning products.

Pinkrinse · 15/02/2025 18:56

My friend had a very similar issue with her house and her daughter, who ended up extremely ill. It didn’t start improving until they moved out and she funded (via crowd funding) expert medical help. Her gp didn’t know what to do. The landlord should fix this, I live in a house that’s over a 100 years old and we have zero mould. It’s a damp problem in the house which needs fixing. Please try and find a way of moving or getting the house fixed.

ConstantlyTired312 · 15/02/2025 18:53

Our old house had rising damp and my daughter was constantly ill. We had an inhaler when she was 2 (allergies and eczema as well, for which we were at dermatology and the allergy team at the hospital). I did just think that she was little and normal childhood illnesses.
We moved to a new build 2 years ago and she hasn't had a cold since! She's 5 now, all the congested wheezing and bunged up noses completely gone and been completely healthy since.
If you can't move, I'd recommend getting the dehumidifier pots and putting them in the places where you are seeing mold patches forming. Keep windows open as much as you can to help the airflow.
Are you able to go to the council and get any housing support if you are not in the position to rent privately?
You are definitely not overreacting, they are only little and react to things differently to adults.

whatawonderfultime · 15/02/2025 18:37

That's disgusting, I'm a healthy adult and I wouldn't subject myself to it let alone any children. If I knew someone who was keeping a child in those conditions I'd report it to social services tbh. Stories in the news of kids dying from things like this over a few years.

Risingsun93 · 15/02/2025 18:04

If OP really wanted out this situation surely she'd get a job, or get on the council house list. I'm pregnant with a 4 year old. I would never consider not working and have two jobs currently. It's doable

MustWeDoThis · 15/02/2025 17:58

Concernedmum23 · 14/02/2025 00:03

Please, need some urgent help.

DC is 4. She used to be lively, happy and full of energy. Since about late October time she started getting colds. We thought the usual, oh it's that time of the year. Except the colds never went away and kept on coming. Since then she's been ill and "congested" every single day. She now looks pale, yes I know it's winter time but she has this weird tint to her that she gets when is run down. She has big black bags under her eyes, her energy is higher but restless and irritable. Again, we thought it could be down to her age and a phase but now I'm not so convinced. As well as permanently being congested and always choking on it, she's become highly wired at night time. She wakes up multiple times during the night sleep talking/walking. The other day she randomly woke up, complained of pain, vomited and then was fine?

The thing is we live with family and can not afford to move out at the moment. The house, to me anyways, seems riddled with black mold. When I bring this to DH or his families attention I get shut down. But there is evidence of black mold, in the corners by windows. On the floor, in the carpets, in the corners of the wall/skirting. At its worst it can go up into the ceiling and this is all just the visible external part of it, god knows what is happening behind the walls. I'm worried her sudden onset of illness and not seeming to get better despite the diet change, heavy vitamins ect is due to black mold poisoning? DH claims it's common from old homes to get this, but surely not every week/month? We clean the mold and it seems to return with about that time frame. If left untreated it can get really bad. The wall paper in the house in many places is peeling/bubbled but again it gets dismissed from just being an old house.

I feel convinced that unless it's a random allergy she has developed it's the house doing this. Her symptoms align with black mold exposure but no one seems to take me seriously. Also there isn't really anything we can do about it being in the financial predicament we are in.

The drs don't seem concerned. They have referred her to an ent and said her to sols look big but that it's "normal for most kids and she will grow into them". This feels more than that, and I'm scared for my child despite being shut down by everyone. Gp won't even do basic allergy/asthma tests on her. I'm at a loss and so so worried. Help!!!

Call environmental health and the local council to come out and look at it. Tell them about your sick child. You need to be moved urgently into social housing where there is no mold, or you need to have it all professionally cleaned and the source of this mold established.

Bugger waiting for the family to get this fixed! You have a duty of care to your child to get her out of there into cheap housing, where things like this are sorted promptly, or have it fixed yourself. You need to put prevention in place to stop her getting sick all the time and it becomes dangerous.

FabulousFebruary · 15/02/2025 12:29

It's been said, sorry op!!

FabulousFebruary · 15/02/2025 12:20

Op I'm sure it's been said but can you invest in a dehumidifier with air purification like a meaco but also a seperate special air purifier with colours to denote air quality.

Aside from cleaning (extremely carefully so as not to get spores in the air) I'd invest in them
Meaco 12 litre is about 140?

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Cookiecrumblepie · 15/02/2025 12:01

Another though…snake plant and other plants that clean the air. Excellent on a bedside table.

Tumbleweed101 · 15/02/2025 08:19

You mentioned they have pets. What animals live in the house?

Cookiecrumblepie · 14/02/2025 19:16

Agree dehumidifier with an air filter or a separate air purifier is absolutely necessary. Especially in your kids room when they’re sleeping, get an air purifier running through the night. For a cheap option, you could wear N95 masks in the house whenever possible. Circulate air as much as possible with a fan and open windows. Clean religiously with bleach and vinegar. Get a wet dry carpet cleaner and use it weekly.

Digdongdoo · 14/02/2025 18:33

LilacLilias · 14/02/2025 18:16

OP has asked about the mould because her DD is unwell and she's trying to help her DD. Her GP sounds very unhelpful.

Not everyone knows about the risks associated with mould, and OP is doing the right thing by asking for advice.

I am not a mould expert, but working in housing I am very aware of the dangers of damp and mould and landlord responsibilities.

I think it's great to have the advice about dehumidifiers etc, but based on OP's description it sounds and looks like the home is not habitable or safe. While she/members of the family can try everything suggested and manage it as best she can (although I'd be a bit concerned about her having to do this personally being pregnant) there will likely be works or updates needed to resolve this that her hosts are not prepared to do.

That's why I'm suggesting she approaches the Council for assistance.

There is no need to judge OP for something she is asking for help with. She's clearly concerned about her child and trying to figure out what to do.

Edited

Is it really judgement to suggest a married couple should safely house their DC before having more of them? Just seem like common sense to me.

LilacLilias · 14/02/2025 18:16

3LittleFishes · 14/02/2025 18:00

Seriously? Just how many more children should she bring into the mouldy overcrowded home?
She has lived there since before the first child was born, perhaps she thought things would improve? After five years living there it should have dawned on her that a second child in the house wasn't going to make her situation easier.
Why should we continually pander to people that make abysmal decisions?
Anyone can fall on hard times, OP didn't, she willfully brought two children into substandard accommodation.

OP has asked about the mould because her DD is unwell and she's trying to help her DD. Her GP sounds very unhelpful.

Not everyone knows about the risks associated with mould, and OP is doing the right thing by asking for advice.

I am not a mould expert, but working in housing I am very aware of the dangers of damp and mould and landlord responsibilities.

I think it's great to have the advice about dehumidifiers etc, but based on OP's description it sounds and looks like the home is not habitable or safe. While she/members of the family can try everything suggested and manage it as best she can (although I'd be a bit concerned about her having to do this personally being pregnant) there will likely be works or updates needed to resolve this that her hosts are not prepared to do.

That's why I'm suggesting she approaches the Council for assistance.

There is no need to judge OP for something she is asking for help with. She's clearly concerned about her child and trying to figure out what to do.

3LittleFishes · 14/02/2025 18:00

Renamed · 14/02/2025 11:37

What a useless response. I’m so glad we don’t live in days of parish relief boards. Plenty of people here would queue up to tell people they don’t deserve to live.

Seriously? Just how many more children should she bring into the mouldy overcrowded home?
She has lived there since before the first child was born, perhaps she thought things would improve? After five years living there it should have dawned on her that a second child in the house wasn't going to make her situation easier.
Why should we continually pander to people that make abysmal decisions?
Anyone can fall on hard times, OP didn't, she willfully brought two children into substandard accommodation.

MadinMarch · 14/02/2025 14:48

Concernedmum23 · 14/02/2025 00:27

More pictures of the 'not quite so bad' mold around the house

Is that a loft hatch? If it is, then it's condensation as there's nowhere else its likely to come from, being well away from the external walls.
You need to change the carpet in the bedrooms at least, stop drying washing inside and ventilate much more than you're doing. Also use a dehumidifier.
Bleach does not kill mould, you need something like HG mould spray which is excellent and can be bought on Amazon.
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Bouledeneige · 14/02/2025 12:53

Has she started nursery or school? That's one way to start picking up constant colds. Over a winter pressures season as well with high rates of colds and flus.

User79853257976 · 14/02/2025 12:46

Can you not work while you’re pregnant? I would not want my children living there and it’s not good for your unborn child either.

rainbowstardrops · 14/02/2025 12:36

Your priority is to get out with your young child before the baby arrives. Otherwise you're just going round in circles and it isn't fair on your child or new baby.

Renamed · 14/02/2025 11:37

3LittleFishes · 14/02/2025 06:17

Stop having children you can't afford to house suitably.
It is mind boggling that you are bringing another child into a mouldy, overcrowded house! Why are you not working, most people don't give up work until they are due to give birth, especially if they are only working part time to start with.
Obviously your living situation will be negatively affecting your existing child so you and your partner need to be working your arses off to move into more suitable accommodation.

What a useless response. I’m so glad we don’t live in days of parish relief boards. Plenty of people here would queue up to tell people they don’t deserve to live.

WorriedRelative · 14/02/2025 11:22

cgk · 14/02/2025 11:01

I'd run this 24/7
Never turn it off and perhaps even get two depending on the size of the property
It's a decent size dehumidifier with a filter on the back that will filter out mould spores.
The mould in your house is not ok - it does happen in lots of places, which is why these are available.

Meaco Arete One Dehumidifier & Air Purifier, 20L

I agree, and really love my Meaco dehumidifier. If the house is cold, down around 15c or lower, then a dessicant dehumidifier will be a better option than the more common compressor type.

The Meaco DD8L is the one to look at and it is currently reduced on the Meaco website.

I had a compressor type and despite running it loads it didn't seem to make much difference. I bought the Meaco DD8L Zambezi and it has made a huge difference to the humidity, air quality and temperature. It actually warms the air a bit while it runs.

I would start by buying one and running it in the room the child sleeps in. Longer term running it somewhere central like the landing will help the whole house.

When dealing with the landlord, point out that Awaab's law is due to come in soon it only affects social landlords for now but is likely to be extended to private landlords eventually.

LilacLilias · 14/02/2025 11:08

I also agree with checking out slow leak. We had one of those and we were ill all the time. But that mould is really not okay and the landlord needs to sort it or you need to go to the Council as you can't live there.

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