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To believe sis(12) over SD(11)?

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Bestofgoodluck · 13/02/2025 19:08

SD is 11, have been with her dad for 5 years, mum is not involved. DP has to go away often for work and I work from home so look after SD while he’s away. This is mostly been fine, she has the option of staying with grandparents but chooses to stay with me.

I also have a 12 year old sister, our mum has quite a few problems and as I am older, she has stayed with me on and off since she was a baby.

They are completely different but have settled into a friendly but probably not friends relationship and there has never any major problems between them. I have been looking after both a them for about a week. They go to different schools and do different activities so don’t see each other that much but when we’ve been together everything has been fine and they both have seemed happy.

Sister went back to our mums today and SD came to me in tears and showed me some extremely nasty and embarrassing messages sent from my sister to her last night, I comforted her and said I would talk to my sister, she cried for me not to and said just not to make her see her anymore.
Sister said she had no idea what I was talking about and that there were no messages on her phone, was asking what they said and why she would do that, I’m 99% sure I believe her. I was already thinking the wording and content of the messages didn’t seem like things my sister would say and more likely that SD sent them to her self.

I feel completely torn between the two of them and can’t see how I can sort this between them or know who is telling the truth.

AIBU to choose my sister over my stepdaughter? And to say SD has to go to her grandparents if DP is away and my sister wants to stay with me?

OP posts:
AnnoyedAsAllHeck · 15/02/2025 05:53

Lyraloo · 14/02/2025 15:07

You said your ds doesn’t live with you, so why for the two weeks your dp is away, can’t you let her stay with her mother while you’re looking after sd?

Because her sister is an important person in her life and something is going on with their mother so that the sister cannot stay there always or "at convenient times". What about all of this is so difficult for you to understand? You sound like the step-daughter (who isn't really a step-daughter since they are not married).

"Sisters before misters." Every time

BlueFlowers5 · 15/02/2025 05:19

Could either ones phone have been hacked? And by an adult?

Laurmolonlabe · 15/02/2025 00:15

You can't take the word of one over the other, you need to see your sisters phone, and when you know who is telling the truth you can then deal with it.
you can't automatically take your sister's part, if you have an ongoing relationship with your partner. It sounds as if your sister is jealous- although she has often stayed with you it is more normal that you look after your step daughter than your sister, and she clearly realises that- you are putting your head in the sand if you think your sister has no motive-she clearly does. You can't put up with bullying like that- it has to be dealt with.
You have stepped up to look after them both, but that means sorting this out is your responsibility.

CliantheLang · 14/02/2025 23:22

Madamecholetsbonnet · 14/02/2025 19:30

So many people haven’t bothered reading all of OPs posts!! The SD has admitted she sent the messages and lied.

I agree she needs more support - from her father.

OP has enough on her plate and needs to prioritise herself and her own family. Her partner should do the same.

True.
Also, we need an emoji that says "RTFT - or at least the updates".

ForeverPombear · 14/02/2025 23:04

Bestofgoodluck · 14/02/2025 21:51

I didn’t accuse SD of lying or suggest she sent them herself. Just that sis says she hadn’t sent anything, that it was weird and we would sort it out. I told her she could tell me if anything else could have happened and was asking if sis had said any of these things in person, she said she had but confessed she didn’t send the texts.

So your sister had said those things to SD?

She didn't send the texts but had said them, it's making a bit more sense as to why SD did it now.

StrongasSixpence · 14/02/2025 21:52

MeMyselfandI2 · 14/02/2025 21:15

You know them and I don’t, but I think DSD was originally telling the truth and is now lying.

I think there is a possibility she feels she has told you the truth, you didn’t believe her, and you made it clear you would leave (at least that’s what she heard). I wonder if (in her mind) she is now trying to get whatever acceptance she can get from you by agreeing with what you already told her you believe in the hope you don’t abandon her.

In her mind she is second best - she’s still saying your sister said not nice things to her and you still don’t believe her. In her mind the only version of the truth that you accept is what your sister says and in her mind she cannot trust you to keep her confidences when it comes to your sister (she asked you not to say anything and you did).

She wants you to believe her and she wants to be able to trust you (with her thoughts, fears, and heart) even if that means she has to lie to get you to believe her and accept her. She’s scared of losing you and (in her mind) she will now lose you if she tells the truth.

But like I said, I don’t know them.

I think this is a reach. It already seemed unlikely the sister sent them from both girls' reactions and the contents of the messages themselves. With both phones unlocked and on the landing, it would be very easy for the step daughter to have sent the messages and is the sort of thing troubled young women can do.

Admitting to a lie that has become untenable and wasn't well thought through in the first place is much more likely than taking the blame for something so sneaky when you were actually the wronged party.

Bestofgoodluck · 14/02/2025 21:51

I didn’t accuse SD of lying or suggest she sent them herself. Just that sis says she hadn’t sent anything, that it was weird and we would sort it out. I told her she could tell me if anything else could have happened and was asking if sis had said any of these things in person, she said she had but confessed she didn’t send the texts.

OP posts:
StrongasSixpence · 14/02/2025 21:47

newyearnewme2025 · 14/02/2025 20:05

well one of them is clearly lying, and from the few responses i've seen, you are on the side of your sister over your step daughter!

if step daughter had sent the messages to herself from your sisters phone, then she would have left the messages on sisters phone, she would have no reason to delete them? sister of course would delete the messages!

if sister found said messages, all hell would have broken loose!

i'd be inclined to believe step daughter on this occasion!

there is clearly a bigger issue at play here! and until you get to the bottom of that, then you are stuck

SD has now admitted she sent the messages and lied.

Doobeedoodoo · 14/02/2025 21:26

How good at tech are both girls? Google ‘how to retrieve deleted messages on your phone’, modify search depending what phone your sister has. You then at least will see timings of messages etc.
good luck

MeMyselfandI2 · 14/02/2025 21:15

Bestofgoodluck · 14/02/2025 15:43

I’m going to ignore the replies regarding our set up and relationships as that is not an issue to me and a lot of the assumptions aren’t accurate.

But SD has said she sent the messages to herself because Sis and ‘everyone’ had said them anyone. So there is clearly a bigger issue that can hopefully be resolved when DP is home

You know them and I don’t, but I think DSD was originally telling the truth and is now lying.

I think there is a possibility she feels she has told you the truth, you didn’t believe her, and you made it clear you would leave (at least that’s what she heard). I wonder if (in her mind) she is now trying to get whatever acceptance she can get from you by agreeing with what you already told her you believe in the hope you don’t abandon her.

In her mind she is second best - she’s still saying your sister said not nice things to her and you still don’t believe her. In her mind the only version of the truth that you accept is what your sister says and in her mind she cannot trust you to keep her confidences when it comes to your sister (she asked you not to say anything and you did).

She wants you to believe her and she wants to be able to trust you (with her thoughts, fears, and heart) even if that means she has to lie to get you to believe her and accept her. She’s scared of losing you and (in her mind) she will now lose you if she tells the truth.

But like I said, I don’t know them.

Chillibeds · 14/02/2025 21:10

Bestofgoodluck · 14/02/2025 20:11

You have really misjudged the situation.
There was a whole 8 years where he worked the same job and I wasn’t the childcare, she stayed with her grandparents of he could afford to pay for alternative childcare.
for over 2 of these years we were a couple, he sent away and I was never asked to look after her. I choose to increasingly offer to as I do my sister because I enjoy it. It’s never been expected and asked by me and it’s repeatedly suggested that I don’t have to.

This is also his home.

If that is the case. Great.
I am always focused on young women not being used by men looking for childcare.
It is unfortunately a regular on MN.
Happy to be corrected if that is not the case in this instance.
You mind yourself OP.

CelestialBeing · 14/02/2025 20:58

Are you sure your SD isn't just saying she sent them to herself to put a stop to you trying to find out the truth? Going by what you said about her reaction, why would she react in that way to something she knew she had sent herself? It would be pretty hard to unless she's a top actress. Your sister refusing to show you the messages is pretty telling, tbh. If she knew she hadn't sent them she would have let you look at her phone to prove her innocence straight away.

Edit: typo.

Bestofgoodluck · 14/02/2025 20:11

Chillibeds · 14/02/2025 19:57

Isn't he just.
So calculating.
So deliberate.
So manipulative.

God love you OP, you are his skivvy aupair.

"No man as determined, as one to find free childcare for his children".

So true.

Just like "no man more in love, than a man that needs a home".

There is a reason these sayings get repeated again and again.

You have really misjudged the situation.
There was a whole 8 years where he worked the same job and I wasn’t the childcare, she stayed with her grandparents of he could afford to pay for alternative childcare.
for over 2 of these years we were a couple, he sent away and I was never asked to look after her. I choose to increasingly offer to as I do my sister because I enjoy it. It’s never been expected and asked by me and it’s repeatedly suggested that I don’t have to.

This is also his home.

OP posts:
newyearnewme2025 · 14/02/2025 20:05

well one of them is clearly lying, and from the few responses i've seen, you are on the side of your sister over your step daughter!

if step daughter had sent the messages to herself from your sisters phone, then she would have left the messages on sisters phone, she would have no reason to delete them? sister of course would delete the messages!

if sister found said messages, all hell would have broken loose!

i'd be inclined to believe step daughter on this occasion!

there is clearly a bigger issue at play here! and until you get to the bottom of that, then you are stuck

Chillibeds · 14/02/2025 19:57

Madamecholetsbonnet · 14/02/2025 15:12

Exactly my thoughts…

Isn't he just.
So calculating.
So deliberate.
So manipulative.

God love you OP, you are his skivvy aupair.

"No man as determined, as one to find free childcare for his children".

So true.

Just like "no man more in love, than a man that needs a home".

There is a reason these sayings get repeated again and again.

ThejoyofNC · 14/02/2025 19:45

Her father is failing her. If he's her only stable parent then he needs to stop pissing off for work all the time leaving other people to look after an already abandoned child. Time to look for a new job.

LilacLilias · 14/02/2025 19:35

Madamecholetsbonnet · 14/02/2025 19:30

So many people haven’t bothered reading all of OPs posts!! The SD has admitted she sent the messages and lied.

I agree she needs more support - from her father.

OP has enough on her plate and needs to prioritise herself and her own family. Her partner should do the same.

I agree.

I also so wish that we lived in a world where tweens didn't have phones but that ship has sailed! Loads of issues with phone & my SD of a similar age.

Madamecholetsbonnet · 14/02/2025 19:30

So many people haven’t bothered reading all of OPs posts!! The SD has admitted she sent the messages and lied.

I agree she needs more support - from her father.

OP has enough on her plate and needs to prioritise herself and her own family. Her partner should do the same.

croydon15 · 14/02/2025 19:15

LilacLilias · 14/02/2025 15:57

Could be a cry for attention because bigger issues (bullying? Insecurity?) or again feeling threatened/jealous of relationship with DSis.

This your SD needs reassurance, security and love.

NewYou42 · 14/02/2025 19:03

To the poster who said to me 'how dare you' hope you give your head a good knock. It was clear as day it was the SD. Mn is very biased towards SC and against Step parents, I would pack her off to get GP until your dp gets back.

treesandsun · 14/02/2025 19:02

You seem to believe your SD is lying and your sister is telling the truth but not explained why you are so convinced of this. It might seem an unlikely thing for your sis to do but surely it is an unlikely thing for the sd to do too.
I would sit them down together and ask them about it when together. Unless you can prove it one way or another I would not take sides no matter what you privately decide as it will ruin the relationship with the other.
I don't think it is right to send SD to GP - you are either helping to co parent her or not - and you all need to work through this some way.

ThistleTits · 14/02/2025 18:59

Bestofgoodluck · 13/02/2025 19:27

Sorry if I didn’t make it clear.
They are text messages from my sisters number, shown to me on my SD’s phone.
Both girls were staying here last night, I was believing that SD had sent them to her self from my sisters phone while she was asleep.

Was there no replies from your sd to these messages or just a bombardment from your sister?
I do have some sympathy for you wanting it not to be true, I have a similar relationship with my youngest brother.
As previously mentioned, get both of them sat down together, go through both phones and then decide the outcome. I think your partner should be involved in this too.

Hankunamatata · 14/02/2025 18:52

I'd talk to dp about getting sd counselling.

I guess sd is very jealous when your sister comes to to stay. I would guess it highlights your sister will always be in your life but sd might not be.

I'd keep both girls apart.

Teasloth · 14/02/2025 18:39

Before seeing your update I would have bet it was SD sending them to herself. I've had sds of similar age and sounds exactly like something they would have done to my own children to try and get one over on them.
There is often a LOT of jealousy from step kids, especially girls I'm afraid who often try to get the other kid into trouble as a way to try and gain more attention and love as they often have an absent parent.

It's actually one of the main reasons I'm no longer in a relationship with their parent. The step kids just made so many false accusations (either admitted it or things that had to have been them as the other child actually wasn't present when they claim things to have happened)

Some people have great dynamics with step families/blended etc
However.. There are a lot of issues that people that have never had step kids just wouldn't understand. The dynamics are totally different to a traditional family and the lengths some step kids will go to to try and cause a rift is insane

auderesperare · 14/02/2025 18:35

Your instincts were right, OP and your DSis should not be exposed to this potential and distressing manipulation in future. You must look after her at your place without DSD present. DP needs to take charge and speak to DSD about falsely accusing an innocent party and get her some help/ support. You should also consider that you may be vulnerable to SDS’s lies should she accuse you of something despicable while you are looking after DSD on your own.
DSD needs help but she also needs to understand that actions have consequences. I would put in place the arrangement to look after DSis only at your home without DSD present. That is your priority. DP makes arrangements for DSD when he is away and should not rely solely on you in the future. You should take a step back from DSD’s care and let her parent(s) manage her until you all feel confident the jealousy - or whatever has triggered this - has been worked through and dealt with. You don’t need to withdraw your love or friendship for DSD. Just don’t be solely responsible for her care until this is resolved.