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Sister-in-Law didn’t invite my mother in

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ThatRubyMoose · 13/02/2025 18:48

I genuinely want people to be honest; I’m interested in what people think.

About four years ago my brother’s partner moved in with him; she has her own business and works from home. Up until then my mother used to go round and clean for my brother (yes I know). My mother also gets a few freebies from her employer so she would leave these in the house.

When his partner moved in, my mother naturally stopped this out of respect for his partner and not to invade her privacy. However, SiL was more than happy to see my mum. She told her to text her when she was going to drop stuff round.

So for four years two or three times a month, Mum sends a text and Sister-in-Law will stop work, make a coffee, elevenses, or lunch depending on what she is doing and they will have a chat. On the back of this, SiL might find out something Mum likes, so they will go to garden centre or stately home together.

So in four years there has been a handful of times when SiL hasn’t been available, either because she will be out, on a zoom etc. and told Mum to leave stuff in porch. All good, no issue.

On Monday evening SiL texts to say she wasn’t available on Tuesday and just leave stuff in porch. Absolutely no issue.

When Mum arrived there were people in the house and a couple of kids running in the hall so my mum knocked on the door a couple of times when finally SiL opens it and seems surprised Mum is there asking her didn’t she get the text asking her to leave the stuff in the porch.

SiL was with her family and didn’t invite my mum in to meet them. As SiL knows my mum is not intrusive and would not have overstayed her welcome. My mum is so upset but we have stopped her ringing Bro.

So essentially my mum was asked to leave stuff in porch but knocked door anyway - would you have done this?

SiL answered but didn’t invite her in. Would you have done this?

OP posts:
MissDoubleU · 14/02/2025 09:44

Newfoundzestforlife · 14/02/2025 09:38

Gatecrash?? Would it have been so terrible for her to come in for a cup of tea and say hello to everyone?

Jeez, why are people so funny...? 😐

Because you don’t know the details of why the family were there. Would it have been so wrong for SIL to spend time with her own family without feeling she also has to host MIL?

People generally feel more themselves and can talk more openly with their own family, while feel they have to be “on” around the in-laws. Why does MIL’s desire trump SIL’s? SIL sees her MIL plenty, makes loads of effort to foster a good relationship. This was time carved out to focus on her own family and spend time some with them.

phoenixrosehere · 14/02/2025 09:43

Newfoundzestforlife · 14/02/2025 09:38

Gatecrash?? Would it have been so terrible for her to come in for a cup of tea and say hello to everyone?

Jeez, why are people so funny...? 😐

It’s not being funny. No one including OP knows what other reasons SIL’s family was there other than seeing SIL. It could have been something extremely personal or private reason.

Again, SIL said she was unavailable and that should be it.

The expectation that you should be able to go into someone’s house because you dropped something off even though you were told they wouldn’t be free is bonkers.

Ineedcoffee2021 · 14/02/2025 09:40

CurlewKate · 14/02/2025 09:27

"she is the one who overstepped and now wants to put on the water works?"

I have NEVER seen "overstepped" or "waterworks" used about anyone but a MIL! 🤣

water works is nicer than she is being a sook and to grow up

Well there was a boundary and what did MIL do to it?

MissDoubleU · 14/02/2025 09:40

SIL hosts MIL regularly and makes a good bit of effort to that relationship. How regularly does she host her own family? This might have been the first time she saw certain members, or they might have had a good reason to keep it just them.

People saying it’s rude not to let MIL pop in for a “quick hello” - how does SIL know it’ll be so quick? Once she’s in she might decide a cup of tea and to join in. Family might be discussing family matters.

MIL was told she was not available.
MIL made assumptions as to why and then got upset when her assumptions proved wrong.
She was okay to knock, wouldn’t say it was rude to say hello at the door but it was rude to make a fuss, get upset, and think any less of SIL for confirming what she had already said, this day is not for MIL and she is currently occupied by other things.

phoenixrosehere · 14/02/2025 09:39

BagelandEggs · 14/02/2025 09:32

It's starting to sound like SIL sees accepting the freebies as almost doing the MIL a favour and she doesn't really want the stuff but is prepared to accept it and spend time with MIL as a good deed maybe. That's the only way I would see allowing someone to drop stuff off in your porch while you are inside but don't want to see them! Maybe MIL should find a different recipient for the freebies?

You mean like her son? The person she has been dropping them off for before SIL entered the picture.

Newfoundzestforlife · 14/02/2025 09:38

TomatoSandwiches · 13/02/2025 18:52

Your mother should have just left the stuff in the porch as arranged, she basically tried to gatecrash a family visit.

Your SIL did nothing wrong imo.

Gatecrash?? Would it have been so terrible for her to come in for a cup of tea and say hello to everyone?

Jeez, why are people so funny...? 😐

BagelandEggs · 14/02/2025 09:32

It's starting to sound like SIL sees accepting the freebies as almost doing the MIL a favour and she doesn't really want the stuff but is prepared to accept it and spend time with MIL as a good deed maybe. That's the only way I would see allowing someone to drop stuff off in your porch while you are inside but don't want to see them! Maybe MIL should find a different recipient for the freebies?

Snorlaxo · 14/02/2025 09:27

Hairyesterdaygonetoday · 14/02/2025 09:19

I’m surprised by the support for SIL’s rudeness, when she’s happy to receive regular supplies of freebies. I wouldn’t be delivering them any more.

MIL used to deliver the freebie to her son before he was dating SIL. For all we know, the freebie is more appreciated/appropriate by her son than her DIL.

CurlewKate · 14/02/2025 09:27

"she is the one who overstepped and now wants to put on the water works?"

I have NEVER seen "overstepped" or "waterworks" used about anyone but a MIL! 🤣

Ineedcoffee2021 · 14/02/2025 09:21

Goofy03 · 13/02/2025 21:48

SIL is rude. Even if you might inwardly sigh to have to invite someone in, it’s incredibly rude not to answer the door when you’re at home. MIL shld stop bringing the freebies.

Why? There is no law or obligation that says you MUST open the door every time someone knocks on it
Just like there is no obligation or law to answer a phone every single time it rings

SIL is well within her rights to say she is busy - even if that is doing something at home

MIL is rude to knock when the agreement was to drop off
she is the one who overstepped and now wants to put on the water works? huh?

Home does not equal available

phoenixrosehere · 14/02/2025 09:21

Hairyesterdaygonetoday · 14/02/2025 09:19

I’m surprised by the support for SIL’s rudeness, when she’s happy to receive regular supplies of freebies. I wouldn’t be delivering them any more.

Considering MIL was delivering them for her son way before his girlfriend entered the picture, I doubt she is going to stop and if she stops due to this one instance in the four years they’ve been together, it says way more about her than SIL.

Hairyesterdaygonetoday · 14/02/2025 09:19

I’m surprised by the support for SIL’s rudeness, when she’s happy to receive regular supplies of freebies. I wouldn’t be delivering them any more.

alwaysdeleteyourcookies · 14/02/2025 09:15

PinkArt · 13/02/2025 18:59

SIL said she wasn't available because she wasn't available, she was hosting her family. It sounds like she already hosts your mum loads, without your brother there - she stops working once a week/ fortnight to entertain her and goes on days out on top of that (incidentally, does your brother does the same back for her mum?). She hasn't done anything wrong here.

Definitely this. Surprised you can't see that.

phoenixrosehere · 14/02/2025 09:14

MagpiePi · 14/02/2025 09:11

I was with my ex for about 12 years and our parents only met a handful of times. Ex and me both had very good relationships with our respective in-laws and there was no animosity between the in-laws, it was just but we were from very different backgrounds so the two sets of parents had very little in common.

My husband and I have been together for over a decade and our parents have only met once in person and a handful of times via Skype.

MagpiePi · 14/02/2025 09:11

Chillibeds · 14/02/2025 08:15

Clearly your SIL does not want your mother meeting her family.
After 4 years that is strange.
She had texted so she had been clear.
Talk your mum down from her upset.

But it is strange.

I was with my ex for about 12 years and our parents only met a handful of times. Ex and me both had very good relationships with our respective in-laws and there was no animosity between the in-laws, it was just but we were from very different backgrounds so the two sets of parents had very little in common.

phoenixrosehere · 14/02/2025 09:10

ThatRubyMoose · 13/02/2025 21:28

How has my mother in the four years prior to this event demonstrated poor behaviour?

I accept that some of you think she shouldn’t have knocked and done as she had been asked and left stuff in porch.

My SiL is a genuinely, nice, straightforward woman. I would have done differently however. I would have let her in or explained why she couldn’t come in. I know SiL isn’t obligated to give an explanation but given their relationship/friendship I think she should have.

I disagree that your SIL should have to explain why. It’s none of your mum’s business.

It’s entitled to think your SIL needs or owes your mum an explanation on what was going on when she explicitly told your mum she wasn’t available.

You said it has never been an issue before dropping things off when SIL has been unavailable yet because this one instance in years where SIL was with her family, it’s an issue.

Your mum could have texted that she left the items, instead of knocking. She didn’t have to knock and I bet your mum would have been even more hurt if SIL would have not answered the door at all.

You say your SIL is lovely, yet you are actually putting her in a no-win situation where the only option was for your mum to go in regardless of your SIL’s availability.

FindusMakesPancakes · 14/02/2025 09:08

Weepixie · 14/02/2025 02:49

Sister in laws reply should have been - I’ll be here with my family who are visiting and you’re more than welcome to nip in.

It would have then given mum a chance to nip in and say hello or decide not to disturb the visit/or drop things off another day.

And yes, sister in law did say she’d be busy that day but she never said, I’ll be at home with my family when you’re dropping things off. There’s quite a leap between being busy WFH for example and what actually happened.

Op, your brother should be told about what happened and not just because I’m sure his partner has already told him.

Edited

Why? Why 'should' the SIL say she is welcome to nip in? And it then be up to her MIL to decide if she wishes to wants to disturb the visit or not? Why should the SIL be forced into having to introduce her family to her partner's family until she is ready to do it? Those kind of meetings should be on SIL terms not MIL.

I have been married over 20 years. My family and my in-laws have met on maybe 5 or so occasions in that time, the first one being the day before we got married. I keep my family firmly away from people I like.

There are so many assumptions on this thread that it is the MIL that is not liked despite the apparently close relationship she and the SIL have. It is equally as possible that she is not close with her own family and having them there was already awkward for her without an impromptu extra that she has already said is unavailable to entertain.

TheWonderhorse · 14/02/2025 09:05

My mil lives abroad but has a key to our house which whenever she's in the country she uses at her leisure. Welsh working class here.

I would absolutely never not say hello to my mil if she was outside my house and I was not in a meeting or something, and would also never arrange a situation where that was the plan if it could be avoided. I don't consider having other guests to be a good enough excuse to not meet basic manners.

The way to avoid being rude here was to say for her to drop them another day when SIL or DB had time to be polite. Or send DB to collect them instead.

MissUltraViolet · 14/02/2025 08:58

Apologies if this has been covered already but if MIL/none of you have met the majority of SILs family, how on earth do any of you know who exactly was in the house at the time?

LilacLilias · 14/02/2025 08:53

I do think there can be a class or cultural difference around situations like this. One side of my family are working class and Irish, the other side middle class and English.

In my Irish family everyone regularly pops round and comes in for extended periods of time no matter who else might be there. If someone shows up you must feed them also even if they protest ☺️

My English family don't really do the pop in and wouldn't generally think that they would be going in if they dropped something off.

LilacLilias · 14/02/2025 08:44

WearyAuldWumman · 14/02/2025 08:28

Well, that was the poster that I quoted...but in my family there would still have been interaction with the uncle/MIL/relative even if only for a brief while.

Sorry I must have replied to the wrong post!

Anxioustealady · 14/02/2025 08:43

Weepixie · 14/02/2025 02:49

Sister in laws reply should have been - I’ll be here with my family who are visiting and you’re more than welcome to nip in.

It would have then given mum a chance to nip in and say hello or decide not to disturb the visit/or drop things off another day.

And yes, sister in law did say she’d be busy that day but she never said, I’ll be at home with my family when you’re dropping things off. There’s quite a leap between being busy WFH for example and what actually happened.

Op, your brother should be told about what happened and not just because I’m sure his partner has already told him.

Edited

But what if SIL knows from previous experience that MIL wouldn't leave until the end of the gathering?

I don't see my family much. I'd be very upset if on the odd occasion they got together someone invited themselves in.

Completelyjo · 14/02/2025 08:43

Zonder · 14/02/2025 06:59

That's not what happened though, is it?

It pains the sil in a bad light whatever.

It’s literally exactly what happened. SIL told MIL specifically she wasn’t free, MIL knocked away and then got upset SIL didn’t ditch her prearranged plans to include MIl

WhatFreshHellisThese · 14/02/2025 08:40

ThatRubyMoose · 13/02/2025 22:12

My mother does not overstep. SiL asked my mother to let her know when she is dropping stuff off. SiL doesn’t have to ‘drop everything’. She could choose not to let Mum in BUT she chooses to take a break… the length of which is determined by SiL. When it hasn’t been convenient Mum had left stuff in porch. SiL chooses to go out with my mum on occasion

Sometimes my brother is there. I have no idea what his relationship is like with her mother.

It has never occurred to me before tonight to consider that it’s odd we haven’t met her family. I saw her in a pub once when she was with a cousin and I was with my husband, kids and friends and my husband went abroad once with my brother and her brother. We haven’t had formal introductions to the others.

It sounds to me like you mother most definitely is over-stepping and intruding. I work from home a fair bit and my MIL coming round most weeks during working hours would drive me mad. To me it sounds like your SIL has been super accommodating but has now had enough of it. To be fair she's a better woman than me as l would have nipped it in the bud ages ago. Your mother was told your SIL wasn't available but she just carried on banging on the door. Rather tone deaf

TheWonderhorse · 14/02/2025 08:39

AngelicKaty · 14/02/2025 01:48

Dear God. SIL asked MIL to leave the freebies in the porch (as she has done before!) because she couldn't see her that day. Yes, SIL does normally appreciate and welcome her MIL and they do things together including having days out, but on this occasion SIL gave MIL forewarning that she wouldn't be available to see her and MIL should have respected that. It's this simple. 🙄

Oh dear me. I know what SIL said, but she was absolutely available to come to the door to say thank you, and was rude not to. Declaring yourself unavailable is not the same as actually being unavailable. Why would you not say hello?