To be annoyed that vegan options have replaced vegetarian?

A restaurant should cook food people actually like and want to eat, based on market research (like any business), not food we're forced to eat because it's the only thing on the menu because chefs are genuinely scared to try anything else because they don't know how to cook vegetarian/vegan food (anymore). A UPF shitburger isn't a good choice for anyone, veggie or vegan or omnivore. I think veggies are just too tolerant of this whole situation and that's why it's been allowed to creep up on us. As I said, I'd be happy with all vegan options if it wasn't just the UPF "plant" burger. That's not a choice.

It's not vegans' fault. The fault of restaurants. For instance, a nearby restaurant had a lovely aubergine curry. Naturally vegan and suitable for everyone! Now they have replaced it with a fake meat curry. Not sure why.

Its more the 'holier than thou' attitude most dont want to be associated with by going vegan
Not just here but most vegans have no issue getting in someones plate, talking down or belittling people who not vegan and their food choices

Their attitude keeps people who may be interested away

As a vegan who is GC, the two don’t compare. I stand up for women and children, I stand up for animals.

Indeed - the vegans are in this thread already trying to guilt trip the veggies!

Yes, this.

Well I just Googled and 5-7% are vegetarian in the UK vs 1-2% vegan so maybe veggies should have more of a say here instead of the tiny minority who shout the loudest... where have we seen a tiny noisy minority trample all over people before? 🧐

Because a restaurant wants to give choice. So rather than one veggie, one vegan; they usually do 2 vegan which then gives the illusion that you have options.

Don't be silly. Why would what some randomer on the internet say MAKE someone consume more meat? If someone wants to go vegan, they aren't going to NOT go vegan because some other vegan was forthright on Mumsnet.

I don't do milk (lactose intolerance) and gluten (celiac) and I have had excellent afternoon teas.
I have vegan friends and I have done great afternon teas with them. It's not that complicated.

It's not "lazy putting everyone into one box". It's cost and practicality.
Small part of customers eat these items so it does make for many businesses sense to have x versions. So to prevent food waste and money waste, the item is made edible for bigger market.

I do - frequently. Everywhere is vegan now and I hate the frankenfoods this means.

I've even got up and left when the only option on the menu is a lazy chef's choice of a vegan burger.

And whilst I'm on it, I resent paying £18 for a main course which is mostly cheap pasta when the meat/fish options are the same price. I'm also not doing that any more. They make a lot of profit on veggie food so they could at least make an effort.

It's attitudes like that one which drive people to go omnivore, not vegan.

Dairy is a dying industry. You'd better get used to this fact.

I don't know why it's so hard for everywhere to offer one veggie option and one vegan option as a basic standard and ideally 2 of each if they find those are popular. It wouldn't take much. I really wouldn't mind having to eat vegan if the food was good quality and actually a plate of decent vegetable-based food but it's always a fucking "plant" burger that's UPF and probably never saw a real plant in its life!

Fake meat is rank processed crud. Absolutely agree with previous comment about vegan ‘cheese’ especially the fake mozzarella which looks like someone has done a ‘special’ on the plate.

Please can we have healthy vegetarian offerings, not fake meat.

If anyone is a member of The Vegetarian Society I also think they are going more and more vegan ( even though there is a Vegan Society)

It's none of your business.
I get so tired then vegans tell me off.

The mass produced vegan 'food' on offer in supermarkets is dire, one step away from plastic. How anyone can say they eat it for health reasons given the level of fat content in the majority of the stuff is mind boggling.

Honestly can't say i've been anywhere and seen this. There's always a vegetarian option and rarely a vegan one. Especially for afternoon tea. If anything vegan options have declined lately.

I'm vegan and struggle still to find options. Veggie is easy. What annoys me more is all the fake meat rubbish now. I don't want a fake meat burger or fake steak or whatever. I miss the standard bean burger offerings.

I agree 100%. I think it's very lazy actually, lumping vegans and vegetarians together so the restaurant only has to provide one option. I actually love vegan food and cook it a lot at home but when I go out I want to indulge. I want cream and butter and cheese!

Yes, YANBU! I don't want to eat vegan food, especially when I'm paying for an expensive meal. I love cheese and milk and eggs and find the vegan replacements are usually horrible.

The worst is when you order the vegan burger, but they won't add proper cheese to it. Why not?!

Morally I am fully aware that vegans are right, but I could never be vegan myself. I do buy organic eggs and milk though, in an attempt to avoid the worst parts of the industry.

Same. And I was a veggie for 20 years!

I can't see the point of 'doing' afternoon tea for a vegan......what would you be able to eat?