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SoFull · 12/02/2025 22:31

Just after some advice for my son who is extremely unlucky.

He used to be in a competitive sport and always missed out on various opportunities, wins etc.. no matter how hard he tried. Then when he was just getting good, everyone else had growth spurts and he was left behind. I can't tell you how many times I uttered the phrase 'best things come to those who wait' and 'just keep trying'.

The pattern has been the same at school - missing out on parts in plays, selection for the football team, the list goes on etc...

It seems that whenever he really really wants something, even if he practices more than everyone else or wants it the most, he always misses out

Yesterday he was offered an incredible opportunity for something tomorrow. All v last minute. I have never seen him so happy. We applied to school for the day off so he could go to this thing, and he's been excited all day. Then tonight he was told that actually, here aren't enough places and the others selected can go, but he'll have to wait for another time

It might sound like I'm being precious, but I have another child and this just doesn't happen to my other son. He misses out on the odd thing here and there but he also gets breaks. My oldest however, just NEVER gets the breaks and always misses out. I just don't know what to say anymore. He is so so unlucky. He just gets annoyed now when I say 'bets things come to those that wait" because quite frankly no matter how long he waits (and works while he waits) he just never gets the breaks. It's like he's doomed.

Any advice? Because he is distraught tonight. It's not just missing out on this one thing which is happening tomorrow. It's years and years of always missing out, never getting the break, seeing others zoom ahead, get selected etc.... He's learning hard work and persistence don't pay off. Hoping and wishing are pointless and that he is just the world's unluckiest person. And I don't know how to counter that.

Help!

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SoFull · 13/02/2025 00:44

Sorry, I should probably clarify - I don't use words like unlucky to him! I don't go on and on about it. I'm jus using those words here and talking about it here because I'm stressed by it all and no longer no what to say to him.

It's hard to describe to a parent that's not experienced this. I haven't experienced it with my other one. But he does seem to just be unlucky (I don't say that to him). He really does. He always misses out and I'm not exaggerating:)!

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pikkumyy77 · 13/02/2025 00:40

MySweetGeorgina · 12/02/2025 23:45

Dropping a kid like that is very very bad form by the organisers, and needs addressing and a complaint

The narrative you are feeding your DS about always being unlucky and how things never work out for him is harmful and needs to stop. He'll be on his way to being a glass half-full woe-is me man, if you are not careful

Winning silver or bronze is amazing, only 1 person gets gold. 1 person. I do not know if you do sport yourself, but it is not actually all about being the best.

Everybody faces disappointment and there is no law that says if you keep persevering one day you will be the winner of winners

It is all about the journey, the enjoyment of the sport, getting better. Being better than you were a year ago. The cameraderie. The adventures. The fun. The growth. Dealing with adversity.

He is so young and has so many opportunities, there are so many things he has not even tried his hand at yet. Feeding him this narrative of " bad things always happen to me " is harmful. Stop it, please

I agree that even if you privately have developed this “bad luck” theory it is now quite toxic and on the way to being a self fulfilling prophecy.

You also keep insisting that his bad luck incidents never happen to anyone else—you don’t know that and its not true. Someone is always missing by a point, getting in fourth, or missing a trip because they are sick. This happens to everyone at some point.

You are—for natural reasons—forming a pattern where none exists. If he is small for his age figure out other things he can work on or excel at. More independent, individual things.

My brother had a tough few years when he had been leader of the pack then all his friends outgrew him. It was difficult but he regained his top dog status by being a tough little bastard. Height and weight are not important. Its grit and drive that win in the end.

Also and I think it makes s difference here we say “good things come to those that wait.” there isn’t any best in the world. Not only one best experience or person.

Meanwhile33 · 13/02/2025 00:39

I would definitely try to scratch the narrative about luck. I think the words you put above are perfect, you can’t fix his disappointment, and if you try too hard and go on and on about it it just makes it into a bigger deal than it has to be. Just have fun bunking off together tomorrow.

clary · 13/02/2025 00:37

The narrative you are feeding your DS about always being unlucky and how things never work out for him is harmful and needs to stop. He'll be on his way to being a glass half-full woe-is me man, if you are not careful

I agree with @MySweetGeorgina here. You keep saying about how he is so unlucky. I don’t think that’s helpful tbh. I never use the word lucky or unlucky as I don’t really buy it tbh.

The thing with the activity tomorrow and him being pulled from it last minute is very very poor and I agree with others that you should take this up with the organisers, make it clear how disappointed your son is (as anyone would be) and ask them to prioritise him for the next time (if that’s possible – sorry it’s not clear what kind of activity it is which is fair enough obvs). But that’s not about your “unlucky” son. I think rather it’s a cock-up by the organisers who ought to do better and be told. And I would deffo say do that.

The other examples tho – he gets silver, bronze or fourth not the gold. That’s not unlucky. He just wasn’t as good, didn’t train as hard, didn’t have the physique the others had, whatever the reason. Sorry to be harsh – I don’t mean to be as silver and bronze and fourth is great really. Better than all those people on the sofa. The school trip in year 7 – he is now in year 8 or even 9 if he is 13? DS2 missed out on a great school trip bc of Covid, Unlucky? no not really, global pandemic. That’s how it goes. Nothing he did.

If someone isn’t picked for the footy team – they are not as good as those who are. Train harder, find a squad with multiple teams, take up a different sport? DS2 didn’t get picked for the footy team at his very sporty uni. He was gutted. He wasn’t ‘unlucky’ tho – they just had better players that they picked. No conspiracy. He took up a different sport and has done really well at it. I really don’t think the lucky/unlucky narrative helps anyone.

SoFull · 13/02/2025 00:29

Thanks by the way, to all the posters on this thread! There's been some really lovely supportive mesaages. I appreciate that, thanks!

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LadeOde · 13/02/2025 00:29

@SoFull Pls for the love of God stop calling your son 'unlucky', he will carry it like badge everywhere he goes if you dont stop. I know he's been disappointed a lot but pls be mindful of the language you're using to describe him. It's all so horribly negative and kids feed on our words more than you'd imagine. Stop saying things like 'Your luck will change", as if there's some awful omen following him about. Just say, 'Shame or sorry that didn't work out, or I'll see what else you can do", or "Never mind, there'll be other chances".

The sport for instance, if he's dinky like mine were, I'd try and find something that plays to his strengths because team sport rarely plays well to small statured lads. My ds's friends dwarf him, but he's brilliant at playing instruments, we don't bother fighting for medals in sport, he just enjoys participating.

SoFull · 13/02/2025 00:26

CheeseyOnionPie · 13/02/2025 00:08

OP, this might sound woo and mad but I think you’re focusing on him being an unlucky person and now he believes he’s an unlucky person. You should reframe this all and work on focusing on the good things.

Also, successful people aren’t lucky, they fail more times than the rest even try.

I totally see what you are saying.. and I'm very keen to avoid him.believing he's unlucky and internalising this.and learning unhelpful messages. But I just don't know what to say anymore. I honestly don't.

What do I say when he misses out? What will help him? Like with tonight's disappointment, what do I say? When he missed his tournament on the weekend, what do I say?

I just have nothing left except 'yeah, it's shit. I'm sorry. I love you'. I wish I could say something more positive and helpful but he doesn't buy it anymore...

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trackerc · 13/02/2025 00:26

When will his luck change? Tomorrow.
Tomorrow he is being loved & treated & made to feel spec with a big of 'fuck em' attitude that you can both feel mischievous about.
Tomorrow is your day. Make it an annual event. Have a mum & son escape day.
You're both lucky.

AliceMcK · 13/02/2025 00:26

O op I do feel for you, it’s happened to my 12 almost 13yo DD, she’s become so disillusioned with everything and dosnt want to try anymore, it so hard. My dd was fantastic at sports but then when winning races teachers didn’t care, weren’t taking notice and gave our 1st places to others, it became so obvious I because that sports day parent and royalily kicked off.

Due to health issues missed a lot of year 7 in high school but as getting better DD started trying out for teams again and even though she was better than the others the teachers wouldn’t risk giving her a place in case she got unwell. It was a real kicker when kids who had no sports talent at all were given positions because they were tall. This was another kicker for my dd, she’s very short, all her friends are tall, it dosnt matter that she’s fast and beats everyone she goes up against, even boys she always ends up missing out.

I just keep reassuring her, her time will come, yes life’s shit and some people seem to glide through life and some of us have to fight harder for what we get. I don’t push but do encourage her to try new things. Right now she’s not interested in anything which is very different to the child she once was. We’ve told her we are happy for her to take a break but don’t want her to give up, we are offering to support her in anything she wants to do, she just needs to find something she likes again.

SoFull · 13/02/2025 00:19

OneFineDay13 · 13/02/2025 00:15

This made me really sad OP I feel for your son and hope he gets his lucky break soon!

Thank you

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SoFull · 13/02/2025 00:19

MySweetGeorgina · 12/02/2025 23:45

Dropping a kid like that is very very bad form by the organisers, and needs addressing and a complaint

The narrative you are feeding your DS about always being unlucky and how things never work out for him is harmful and needs to stop. He'll be on his way to being a glass half-full woe-is me man, if you are not careful

Winning silver or bronze is amazing, only 1 person gets gold. 1 person. I do not know if you do sport yourself, but it is not actually all about being the best.

Everybody faces disappointment and there is no law that says if you keep persevering one day you will be the winner of winners

It is all about the journey, the enjoyment of the sport, getting better. Being better than you were a year ago. The cameraderie. The adventures. The fun. The growth. Dealing with adversity.

He is so young and has so many opportunities, there are so many things he has not even tried his hand at yet. Feeding him this narrative of " bad things always happen to me " is harmful. Stop it, please

I agree I don't want him to internalise the message he's unlucky. I try not to use that phrase with him. But truth is - he is extremely unlucky and he's started to notice it himself - hard not to. How would you approach this because I genuinely am struggling what to say?

I've tried all the "It is all about the journey, the enjoyment of the sport, getting better. Being better than you were a year ago. The cameraderie. The adventures. The fun. The growth. Dealing with adversity" - but when you never get the breaks and are constantly missing out, that all becomes crap really. 'better than you were a year ago' only applies if it's true. 'all about the journey' is fine for a bit, but you do want to at east see the destination or feel you won't fall in every fucking hole.on the way.

I see your points and honestly for the first 5/6 years I was totally on your wavelength - 'this will make you stronger', 'you are so resilient', 'keep trying', 'you'll get your break soon', etc.. but there comes.a point when you just think, yeah. This is shit. I mean you couldn't make it up - if anyone is going to be ill and miss the class event if the year, it'll b DS. If someone will be the only kid not to take home.the class pet or whatever - it would.be him. This is genuinely happening. He is this unlucky (odds in the world are.someone will be. And it's my son. And I honestly can't take seeing it anymore. He needs a break!)

I mean, he really is unlucky. Very very very unlucky. I don't say that to him but what can I say? Ive run out of positive messages.

Help

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ApplesandToast · 13/02/2025 00:17

Oh bless him. Definitely Defintely keep him off tomorrow. Plan an epic day: swimming with slides, cinema with lots of treats and popcorn, indoor ski lessons etc. anything he really loves?

When DS hasn’t felt cared for or respected in school I take him out and give him an epic day to remind him how much we love him and how wonderful he is

OneFineDay13 · 13/02/2025 00:15

This made me really sad OP I feel for your son and hope he gets his lucky break soon!

CheeseyOnionPie · 13/02/2025 00:08

OP, this might sound woo and mad but I think you’re focusing on him being an unlucky person and now he believes he’s an unlucky person. You should reframe this all and work on focusing on the good things.

Also, successful people aren’t lucky, they fail more times than the rest even try.

SoFull · 13/02/2025 00:04

TweezerMay · 12/02/2025 23:45

Oh your poor son! What a crappy way to treat someone. Poor kid. I really hope his luck changes soon. He sounds really strong to have made it this far with so many knockbacks. That’s really tough.

thank you. I just hope his luck changes soon...

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bevm72yellow · 13/02/2025 00:04

agree with who you know 100 per cent. Some parents\guardians place themselves on committees or boards to connect\network and be in FIRST before the news gets out.

Needanewnameidea · 13/02/2025 00:03

SoFull · 12/02/2025 23:08

Yes it's a cock up. He was excited about missing school tomorrow 😁 as well as obviously attending the special thing. Now he has to go to school :( as well as missing out on something he was ecstatic about. Double whammy!

Complaining is one thing , but it won't change anything. He's still not going to be going tomorrow. Even if my complaint was read by 9am tomorrow, no-ones going to attend to it in time. He's gutted.

If it was just this one thing, I'd think 'fair enough, it's a shame but nevermind'. But this is like the final straw of years and years of bad luck.

I know given the millions of people there are on the earth, some people will be lucky enough to have runs of good luck that last years, and some will.have runs of bad luck that last years. But I just wish it wasn't my kid getting the bad luck :(

He's so sad tonight and I'm at a loss what to say anymore. I've just said 'im.so.sorry. I know it's shit.' anything positive I say just doesn't seem worth it anymore and also, untrue! :(

But he’s not “unlucky” - whatever organisation this is has treated him really poorly. Yes, he’s still not going tomorrow, but I actually think just sitting back and absorbing all this as “bad luck” he just has to passively accept isn’t helpful. No one can do anything about his growth or being sick on a school trip but you can be assertive about this - you refer to “waiting for another time” so if this is an opportunity that might happen again I’d be being fairly pushy that it is really is going to be his turn next time.

whatawonderfultime · 12/02/2025 23:59

I agree with the posts above, I think you've been counting and focusing on the unlucky things rather than the lucky ones. Which is easy to do but you feel a loss twice as much as a gain. I bet loads of good things have happened and you haven't counted them.

ChonkyRabbit · 12/02/2025 23:51

The narrative you are feeding your DS about always being unlucky and how things never work out for him is harmful and needs to stop. He'll be on his way to being a glass half-full woe-is me man, if you are not careful

Agree with this. Research shows we really do make our own luck - people who believe they're lucky are lucky (because they are more confident, take more risks etc) and people who think they're doomed will be doomed.

It sounds like he's had a normal life of normal achievements.

Gabitule · 12/02/2025 23:50

Oh OP, weirdly enough, i do believe in luck (although I believe in almost nothing else). Without wanting to analyse the current situation (and whether he was really unlucky or if it’s just your perception, coincidence, etc), all I can say is that luck comes and goes. It is unfair but one day luck may turn in his favour

MySweetGeorgina · 12/02/2025 23:45

Dropping a kid like that is very very bad form by the organisers, and needs addressing and a complaint

The narrative you are feeding your DS about always being unlucky and how things never work out for him is harmful and needs to stop. He'll be on his way to being a glass half-full woe-is me man, if you are not careful

Winning silver or bronze is amazing, only 1 person gets gold. 1 person. I do not know if you do sport yourself, but it is not actually all about being the best.

Everybody faces disappointment and there is no law that says if you keep persevering one day you will be the winner of winners

It is all about the journey, the enjoyment of the sport, getting better. Being better than you were a year ago. The cameraderie. The adventures. The fun. The growth. Dealing with adversity.

He is so young and has so many opportunities, there are so many things he has not even tried his hand at yet. Feeding him this narrative of " bad things always happen to me " is harmful. Stop it, please

TweezerMay · 12/02/2025 23:45

Oh your poor son! What a crappy way to treat someone. Poor kid. I really hope his luck changes soon. He sounds really strong to have made it this far with so many knockbacks. That’s really tough.

isthatmyage · 12/02/2025 23:38

OP if not already said then I would also say him that, yes it's a bit shit you were not picked/did not go etc. I remember a particular situation about 12 months ago with my then 18 year old daughter who had started her apprenticeship and had to travel 2.5 hours with the 2/3 night hotels or Airbnb for 3 months due to accommodation issues....if I mentioned the word resilience one more time she would have punched me 😂😂 good luck!

Anotheranonymousname · 12/02/2025 23:33

Your poor DS! Is he the only one who has been deselected? What are the grounds for him being the one who now misses out? What guarantee are the organisers offering that he will have an equivalent opportunity?

Without having any idea what the organisation is it's hard to make suggestions of how to take things forward but if it were my DS who had been dropped with less than 12 hours to go, I would send an email to the organiser and whoever is above them in the chain of command. I would describe DS's excitement at being selected for this and how much it meant to him as someone who has missed a couple of opportunities due to illness and has never had the experience of being selected for something exciting before. Then describe his evening after the news he'd been deselected. Include things DS has said and also your concern that DS is beginning to see himself as worthless and expendable and let them know how disappointed you are that their organisation has such little regard for your DS's emotional wellbeing. Explain that they need to email the school by 8.30am to inform them DS has been dropped and to ensure his teachers for tomorrow know that he may be feeling extra vulnerable.

trivialMorning · 12/02/2025 23:31

He was great at a particular sport yet was never moved up to next squad when friends were etc..

I have to admit when that happened to mine very obvioulsy I've asked why - sometimes just asking meant it's changed other times there a reason I can help with and a few times given brush off - though that did one time make DD1 change her approach and give up with that teacher and that extra activity and try another way.

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