What age did you start Botox?

No I didn’t. I said I was tired (I may have sad ‘a bit depressed’ I can’t remember - I certainly didn’t say I had depression, because I don’t, though I did once so I’d know). Please don’t follow me about and misrepresent me. I’m reporting this because it’s a personal attack, by the way.

So much hyperbole about putting poison in your body. Yawn. Many safe authorised medications are toxic if not used correctly. My mother is on IV fluids after going into acute kidney failure following administration of an overdose of antibiotics, given to her via injection by a doctor while in hospital.

Calling Botox poison and toxic etc is just a way of wrapping up your prejudices and judgemental attitude by trying to make it sound like you are concerned about people's health. You aren't.

@LeaveALittleNote thank you. This is why.

I wasn't being condescending either. I genuinely meant it. For someone to be so angry, so spiteful towards strangers on the internet, they must have issues in their own lives, that makes me really sad for them.

POISON!!! I think we all know that botox is a toxic substance, I mean, clues in the name. But, so what? Like a lot of other toxic substances its also medically licenced to be injected. There are some very valuable uses of it in a medical context, it is both safe and temporary, this doesn't change if its injected for cosmetic reasons. People may not want to have it, but the implication that women who do are doing something highly dangerous for vanity is hyperbolic and incorrect. Unless you are teetotal, regular exercising, healthy weight and eat clean whole foods, you are increasing your own health risk to a far greater extent that caused by botox, so some perspective is needed.

I had it 3 times. Was in a lot of pain before a back op, looked in the mirror a few months after and realised the pain was basically etched all over my face even though it had gone
Haven't had it since, and use tretinoin which has made a huge difference

Not adverse to having it again but it's not in my budget at the moment

I have a a group of 8 female friends all of us are late 40s early 50s I'm the only one that hasn't had any treatments. So in my circles it's so normal and common.

I'm 49 and not even remotely tempted. But don't judge anyone who wants it done.

I go for a late walk on winter evenings, I think it’s what Botox must feel like. Though if this were true I’d have botoxed fingers too .

Thirteenblackcat

Please do. Persist for a few weeks. Honestly, they will work. (No, I’m not a shareholder 😁 just a satisfied customer.)

Thanks, had a little google I think I’ll try them

Never. 52.

I'm surprised by the amount of people who have had it.

I’ve never heard of frownies what are they?

The most basic but very obvious thing, @Thirteenblackcat

They were developed in Hollywood in the 1940s! They are little sticky triangles that you stick on the frown line before you sleep every night.

Most of us frown during our sleep cycle. They prevent you from frowning.

i discovered them about 15 years ago. At 60, I honestly don’t have 11 frown lines.

Honestly had no idea it was so widespread.

Im 38 and haven’t had it and have no plans to ever have it. I didn’t think I knew anyone who did but based on this thread that seems highly unlikely!

I'm late 40s, read the first page so far and getting baffled - "number 11's coming in?" It's like a different language 😁
Don't think I know anyone in RL who has Botox, and definitely not for me, I don't want to pump shit into my face and knowing my luck my face would blow up if I tried 😂
I like my face and forehead to move.

I’ve never heard of frownies what are they?

I’m 60. I’ve used frownies since I was mid 40s and have no 11s. Luckily, I don’t have many wrinkles either.

I had cancer 9 years ago. Had treatment and recovered. Won’t be injecting poisons into my body.

@LeaveALittleNote glad I am not the only one who noticed this!

I've not been here long and goodness, it really is the same people over and over!

I hope the posters who do it aren't teaching their Daughters that it's normal to do it at a young age.

Good for you for being honest, and not just insisting that you look totally normal and just indefinably younger than your age.

I do think if you start too young it can age you. And if you do it too frequently.

Love island clones haha, no that’s really not true for me anyway

I started at 29 when I looked in the mirror and saw some crows feet and fine frown lines.
I'm now 37.

I actually think that I am starting to look a bit odd now compared to my friends who are aging naturally (as far as I know!) So I'm going to think about stopping. It will be hard but I have to accept wrinkles at some point, right?

My mother didn't help, when I was growing up she always made out that life was just about looks, and she always commented on how I looked and how AWFUL ageing is. It's hard to get rid of her voice inside my head.

I agree, a sad thread.

It seems women all want to look like clones of those on Love Island !

43 - I’m 48 now. Had it very sporadically but I’m a frowner and it’s helped me change that pattern and stop 11s being ingrained. They are softer now even when it’s worn off.

I have a very low dose and a half dose round the eyes. Leave lots of movement and still some lines in the forehead. Every 6-9 months or so.

When done right (and it’s hard to get right!). I look fresher. Done badly I look a bit scowly. Often take a year off too. The trick, especially as you get older is not to over do it. A very smooth forehead and saggy jaw looks very incongruous..