What age did you start Botox?

😊 you still in a bad mood?

I'm 33. I tried it for migraine and it did nothing except make me look weird. I won't be having any because I refuse to give £1000 per year to rich men just because they've decided I need to have a smooth forehead for no reason whatsoever. I have better things to spend my money on and more important things to worry about than natural ageing. My mum has had nothing and at 66 she looks fantastic. When I look at her I see the kind face of a strong woman who raised me to be the person I am, not frown lines or crows feet.

This thread is about botox, not filler.

My friend turned up at the pub and I could tell she'd had some lip filler. It looked rubbish and I didn't know what to say. I said nothing then she told me. She's not had it done since. I don't think anyone said it looked good.

I can always tell when a friend has it. You may not tell them, but they’ll know.

I'm 52 and not that wrinkly and not had anything done. The women on my Mum's side age really well. I've not got a grey hair yet either.

I did joke to my DH that I'm thinking of getting botox as we partied a bit last night and definitely look very tired and he said I don't need it, just an early night. Bless him.

Don't be daft. The world is full of 40 something women men would be queuing to have sex with. Are you seriously suggesting that once you get past your 39th birthday you'll never have sex and all your relationships are going to be based on you imparting your great knowledge and wisdom chastely to other people? If you see life as some competition for sex between younger and older women that older women will lose so they might as well not bother, then that's a seriously warped view of the world. Most women don't need to compete for sex whatever their age. Most women don't have botox to increase their desirability to men. Sounds like something a man would believe.

We confide in each other so would tell each other if we were considering it. It’s also easy to spot those who have so wouldn’t be a secret.

How do you know if your friends have had it, I haven’t told a single friend IRL?

You must move in different circles to me. None of us have had Botox (am mid 50’s with a DD in her mid 20’s). We’re experts at spotting people who have had treatment but we’re happy as we are - none of us are more wrinkly than the norm - we’re just our age and not trying to be something we’re not.

I think the thing is is that post 40 you're not sexually desirable compared to a 20 something and pretending you can keep up is a waste of time and money. If you accept that you've moved from sexually desirable to knowledgeable wise and powerful then you don't need it so much. I look at people like Maggie smith, how awesome was she!?

I’m 39. I haven’t felt I’ve needed it tbh. Maybe I’d have felt different if I’d become quite wrinkled quite early. I know some of my friends who have developed more lines younger have done it and been happy with the results. As it is im
blessed with naturally young looking skin. Happy to avoid it for as long as I can but haven’t completely ruled it out if I get to the point where I feel too wrinkled for my age.

Yes, it's not frustrating.🙄

Why is it "absolutely frustrating"? I chose not to use Botox. If it bothered me so much, I could choose to have it.

I think it’s great for crow’s feet. I see some of my friends (late 40s/early 50s) are getting crow’s feet lines that extend to their cheeks, (Yes, bloody marvellous, before aging gracefully crew comment 🥱). I’m successfully staving this off with Botox.

54. Wish i had started much earlier. Started with it for the 11’s but also had around my eyes and side of my mouth, (downturned) i’ve recently increased to 4 areas to include a brow lift as one was slightly higher. It does look quite natural tbh, husband didn’t really notice 😂.. When i first started i went every 12 weeks, last time i left it 14 and could realistically go about 16.

I have started getting Botox in my crows feet for the last few years, I wouldn't do fillers but I like the effect of Botox as I think it doesn't get rid of those lines but it does make them look pronounced. Each to their own in my opinion but I am aware that in my circles anyway it so common that people who don't use Botox probably 'stand out' more as being wrinkly than the norm then those you don't use anything and I understand why that's is absolutley frustrating .

See, I don't believe Botox is a.minor change- especially when 29!- or comparable to colouring hair or buying clothes. We will have to disagree on that.

Its very difficult though isn't it? Unless you truly and completely believe that - so no hair dying or styling beyond what's necessary to look tidy; no shopping for clothes that make you look nice as oppose to being simply functional. No make up. As soon as your daughter sees you doing any of these things she learns appearance matters. After that, its just a question of degree, and we all set our own line in the sand. Be that happy to faff around making our hair look nice, but not have botox so we don't look frowny, or happy to have botox but not risky surgeries etc. Botox is often not about trying to look young, it's about making minor changes you think enhance your appearance, and I don't think there are many women who can truthfully say they never witnessed their mothers do that.

I am not going to comment on people's choices to get Botox, but I do strongly believe that it is a mum's duty to tell her daughters that aging is natural, looks aren't everything- or even very important- and there is more to life than looking young.
My mum always told me that and I try to do the same. She's aged wonderfully and I hope to age like her. She always praises my achievements and never says a word about my looks.

Those that “had let themselves go” should have gone in inverted commas… It was her skewed view that those that gained weight had “given up”, not the reality obvs!!

Not related to the thread but so much of this… my mum was the same about weight. Always monitoring her weight, and mine and my sisters’, controlling what we ate and making sneery comments about those that had let themselves go.

I find it very hard to let go of that voice now that I am gaining some perimenopausal weight … I completely see what you mean and well done for being so self aware!

I'm 60 and wouldn't bother. I reckon if super rich celebrities look awful with all their money , botox and surgery a bit of botox won't help

Are you ok ? Genuine question !
I’ve been absolutely stunned by your numerous replies on this thread. And no don’t agree at all anyone with Botox will in their own opinion feel fresher and look it to. By saying so doesn’t mean they’re implying others don’t look as fresh as them.

With regards to poison have you taken the covid vaccine ? Just interested in what you’re happy putting in your body while getting so upset about those having Botox.

Couldn’t be more wrong. I’m not angry. And I wasn’t spiteful.