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To be hurt and annoyed at being dropped by the BBC?

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Ladyof2025 · 12/02/2025 18:14

BBC contacted me asking me to speak on camera about an aspect of local history I happen to know a bit about. I agreed and spent the next few days brushing up on the facts and then writing and rewriting a script and reading it out loud again and again until I knew it by heart and could speak confidently to camera as though I'd never said it before.

I do not have a pretty face, and am in my 60s and rather podgy, but I went to the trouble of going through my wardrobe for the perfect outfit that flattered my podginess, and had my hair cut specially and put on some make up, so I could be the best possible version of me that I could.

The production team visited, took me to the site and filmed me speaking. I did it smoothly and confidently and was glad that I had put in all the rehearsal so I came across as knowledgeable, professional and confident of my material. They said my performance was perfect, thanked me profusely and left.

After about a week they rang me to say that due to time and space issues the section of the programme that featured my input had been dropped. I felt absolutely gutted, not because I want to see myself on TV but because I had used up a lot of my valuable free time for several days preparing and rehearsing for it (for no fee I should add).

A few months later the programme I was dropped from came on TV and to my utter astonishment an attractive, slim young lady appeared, at the same site I was filmed at, and she spoke the exact words I had written and rehearsed! I nearly fell off my chair - the absolute bloody cheek of dropping ME but stealing the script that I had written. Thinking about it, I realised that they wanted my expert input, but not my saggy face or ample figure.

AIBU to be hurt and angry?

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Fountofwisdom · 12/02/2025 20:42

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wingsspan · 12/02/2025 20:41

NautilusLionfish · 12/02/2025 20:31

Surely thats plagiarism? Take ir higher up if you have the script

It's only plagiarism if OP didn't sign over the copyright.

With something like BBC, they likely got her to sign a waiver to any intellectual rights to the content before it was filmed, so they basically own it.

It's still horrendous though and probably goes against some of their Equality & Diversity policies, so I would definitely recommend putting in a complaint.

housethatbuiltme · 12/02/2025 20:40

People saying 'didn't happen'

Trust me it very unfortunately does, actresses get treat like shit and dropped for hotter versions after putting in a tonne of time often. Its massively exploitative and sexist industry (especially at independent level).

Not being paid for your time/expertise and being 'cut' last minute without credit is also rampant throughout the whole industry.

That is why actors have strict unions and management, problem is they can be expensive and hard to get into and most people like OP who aren't actors have no idea of this stuff so just think 'wow Im going to be on TV' and get used and abused.

Amanitacae · 12/02/2025 20:40

After the Huw Edwards scandal the BBC could benefit with being defunded of public money. It has really gone to the dogs.

In 2022 the government froze the license fee, costing the BBC £2million.

The BBC started to take on part of the cost of TV licenses for people over 75 in 2018/19, and has fully covered the cost since 2020.

In 2014 the government stopped funding the World Service, causing the BBC to have to absorb the cost.

Let's be honest - the Conservative government has been defunding the BBC for over a decade.

Ladyof2025 · 12/02/2025 20:40

Just seen this as I was about to leave the site. Deffo not a troll, I have posted on many other threads and have been a MN member for about two or three years.

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KimMumsnet · 12/02/2025 20:38

Evening! Just poking our heads round the door to ask you to lay off the trollhunting, please. If you have any doubts about a poster, just hit Report on their post and we'll be happy to take a look. Trollhunting only serves to derail threads. Cheers, all.

Ladyof2025 · 12/02/2025 20:38

Thank you all (well, most of you!) for responding.

I'm not able to address all the queries etc this evening, I will do so in the morning.

But I must say straight away that whilst I was bracing myself for people to say I was being unreasonable, it never once occurred to me that anyone would say it did not happen, and so I must be lying. Several others on this thread report that similar has happened to them, so that does that mean we are all lying?

I definitely didn't imagine this! I would hardly be upset about something that did not happen.

The programme was a national one and it is still on iPlayer!

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housethatbuiltme · 12/02/2025 20:33

Ladyof2025 · 12/02/2025 18:14

BBC contacted me asking me to speak on camera about an aspect of local history I happen to know a bit about. I agreed and spent the next few days brushing up on the facts and then writing and rewriting a script and reading it out loud again and again until I knew it by heart and could speak confidently to camera as though I'd never said it before.

I do not have a pretty face, and am in my 60s and rather podgy, but I went to the trouble of going through my wardrobe for the perfect outfit that flattered my podginess, and had my hair cut specially and put on some make up, so I could be the best possible version of me that I could.

The production team visited, took me to the site and filmed me speaking. I did it smoothly and confidently and was glad that I had put in all the rehearsal so I came across as knowledgeable, professional and confident of my material. They said my performance was perfect, thanked me profusely and left.

After about a week they rang me to say that due to time and space issues the section of the programme that featured my input had been dropped. I felt absolutely gutted, not because I want to see myself on TV but because I had used up a lot of my valuable free time for several days preparing and rehearsing for it (for no fee I should add).

A few months later the programme I was dropped from came on TV and to my utter astonishment an attractive, slim young lady appeared, at the same site I was filmed at, and she spoke the exact words I had written and rehearsed! I nearly fell off my chair - the absolute bloody cheek of dropping ME but stealing the script that I had written. Thinking about it, I realised that they wanted my expert input, but not my saggy face or ample figure.

AIBU to be hurt and angry?

Call them out on it.

I HATE how unregulated this shit is. I worked in photography which is heavily 'self' governed. 'Time for' is how a lot of it works, people get 'positive exposure' for 'given time' and it works to everyone benefit and if you pull stunts like this where you fail to provide the promised outcome for time given then word gets around so fast you will never work with anyone again. However film has nothing of the sort and people pull this all the time with zero respect for each other... it was a shock when I tried to transition from photography to cinematography.

A big company like BBC has no excuse though, they should know better and need to be put on blast.

NautilusLionfish · 12/02/2025 20:31

Surely thats plagiarism? Take ir higher up if you have the script

Yoyooo · 12/02/2025 20:29

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CatrionaBalfour · 12/02/2025 20:28

Charlize43 · 12/02/2025 20:26

It doesn't surprised me. I rarely watch the BBC these days, but switched it on a while back and partly watched a documentary presented by a blonde, Love Island person, Zara McDarmack, who had absolutely no presenting skills or presence. It was awful! Google images shows that she's quite busty and spends a great deal of her time posing in bikinis, judging by the images of her...

After the Huw Edwards scandal the BBC could benefit with being defunded of public money. It has really gone to the dogs.

I couldn't agree more. That's absolutely typical of the BBC's approach now.

Amanitacae · 12/02/2025 20:28

Unless it local/regional or News, it's very unlikely this was the BBC. Even the One Show is made by BBC Studios (which is a commercial company - separate from Public Service, though the profits do go back to PSB). Many production companies will say they are shooting something 'for the BBC' but aren't BBC themselves and are hired as part of the broadcasters' indy remit.

Honestly, without meaning to stick the boot in, it's extremely unlikely that anyone would bother re-shooting someone who was engaging, interesting and great on telly in a local history piece because of their looks. It would be more likely be because of a performance which wasn't good enough for TV.

Regardless, to treat you like this is terrible, and I would be writing to the exec producer to complain and to ask for payment for the script/text. Can you get the execs name from the credits?

Praying4Peace · 12/02/2025 20:27

Danioyellow · 12/02/2025 18:22

I’m outraged on your behalf 😡 surely there’s laws about stuff like this?

Indeed!
What upsets me OP is that you describe yourself as being podgy and not having a pretty face. Please don't undervalue yourself, everyone is attractive in some way.
Give yourself a treat and celebrate you 🎁
You also need to make a formal complaint, this behaviour is devious and unethical

Charlize43 · 12/02/2025 20:26

It doesn't surprised me. I rarely watch the BBC these days, but switched it on a while back and partly watched a documentary presented by a blonde, Love Island person, Zara McDarmack, who had absolutely no presenting skills or presence. It was awful! Google images shows that she's quite busty and spends a great deal of her time posing in bikinis, judging by the images of her...

After the Huw Edwards scandal the BBC could benefit with being defunded of public money. It has really gone to the dogs.

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PandaTime · 12/02/2025 20:19

27Maisie27 · 12/02/2025 20:16

How did the BBC have your script, if it was something you'd learnt off by heart yourself?

Because they recorder her speaking it.

ffsfindmeausername · 12/02/2025 20:19

If this is true then the BBC need showing up for this. It is pure discrimination. you'd probably have had a good case if you were disabled and they'd dropped you for an able bodied person but not sure how far you'd get in saying they dropped you for someone you felt was more pleasing to eye so to speak.
Also isn't it plagiarism if they've stolen your work?
I'm annoyed on your behalf op. Definitely take this further and I think we may see you on TV after all with this complaint as this is so wrong. makes you wonder how many times things like this have happened?

27Maisie27 · 12/02/2025 20:16

How did the BBC have your script, if it was something you'd learnt off by heart yourself?

peachesarenom · 12/02/2025 20:13

Ladyof2025 · 12/02/2025 18:14

BBC contacted me asking me to speak on camera about an aspect of local history I happen to know a bit about. I agreed and spent the next few days brushing up on the facts and then writing and rewriting a script and reading it out loud again and again until I knew it by heart and could speak confidently to camera as though I'd never said it before.

I do not have a pretty face, and am in my 60s and rather podgy, but I went to the trouble of going through my wardrobe for the perfect outfit that flattered my podginess, and had my hair cut specially and put on some make up, so I could be the best possible version of me that I could.

The production team visited, took me to the site and filmed me speaking. I did it smoothly and confidently and was glad that I had put in all the rehearsal so I came across as knowledgeable, professional and confident of my material. They said my performance was perfect, thanked me profusely and left.

After about a week they rang me to say that due to time and space issues the section of the programme that featured my input had been dropped. I felt absolutely gutted, not because I want to see myself on TV but because I had used up a lot of my valuable free time for several days preparing and rehearsing for it (for no fee I should add).

A few months later the programme I was dropped from came on TV and to my utter astonishment an attractive, slim young lady appeared, at the same site I was filmed at, and she spoke the exact words I had written and rehearsed! I nearly fell off my chair - the absolute bloody cheek of dropping ME but stealing the script that I had written. Thinking about it, I realised that they wanted my expert input, but not my saggy face or ample figure.

AIBU to be hurt and angry?

I'm shocked and angry on your behalf!

CenotaphCorner · 12/02/2025 20:09

I’m gobsmacked! Something similar happened to me a couple of years ago! I was contacted by a tv producer and my ego gushingly flattered saying I’d come to them highly recommended etc. etc. so we agreed a date to meet at the historic venue where I was going to do a bit to camera. As it happened I couldn’t make the date after all so not wanting to let them down contacted a fellow enthusiast to see if they could take my place. He was somewhat taken aback as it turned out the producers had also contacted him and arranged a similar meeting for the next day! He challenged them and apparently they’d arranged to meet 4 of us in a kind of audition. Needless to say the gig eventually went to a very photogenic candidate. Apparently this is how things in tv land are done - even for game shows!

RaveToTheGrave1 · 12/02/2025 20:07

Today on total bollocks, everyone on the local history bits is always old or a bit odd, they didn't shaft you, you must have seen the state of some of the weirdys they get on to talk about what local crap they've dredged up in the local dig this week, or regale everyone with tales of their local boozer.

bluelavender · 12/02/2025 20:03

Was it BBC directly or a production company making a show to go out on BBC?

BornSandyDevotional · 12/02/2025 19:56

Don't take it personally. Genuinely.

Yolo12345 · 12/02/2025 19:54

Ask if you can get the footage - it will be a nice keepsake.

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