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In light of another thread what is the ‘Worst thing daughter/son in-law has ever said or done to you?

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HaloTRI · 12/02/2025 15:17

There are always two sides to every story!

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LadysMantle · 13/02/2025 12:34

HaloTRI · 12/02/2025 15:55

Interesting how quiet it is on here…😂

At 3.17 pm most people are at work. You sound as if you have a bit of a persecution complex! Nearly all IL clashes are down to, as you say yourself, differences in norms between families, and people being thrust into a semi-familial relationship with people they would never choose to have in their lives, rather than anyone being actively malicious.

My DS is only 12, so I’m nowhere near the DIL/SIL stage, but I can tell you exactly what my (very nice, but terminally unimaginative) MIL’s beefs are with all of her three DILs.

She finds her French DIL ‘too grand’, ‘chilly’, and thinks she doesn’t make enough food when she and FIL visit them. I understand what she means, but it’s largely cultural misunderstanding. My SIL is reserved, formal in manner, grew up in a small chateau, is horrified by the vast amounts of processed food and meat served at PILs, and is ready to die from how hot their house is kept when they visit (from overseas, so overnight stays necessary, so she deals with it now by no longer ever visiting, ever, under the guise of work.)

Her second DIL she blames for a longtime rift with her son (who is estranged from the whole family, did a lot of prison time, and seems to have considerable MH issues) — she may have a point, but the initial rift predates him meeting his now-wife, and their wedding actually involved a brief thaw. I get that MIL is very sad about not seeing those grandsons, but it’s a lot more to do with her son’s poor MH than who he married, as far as I can judge. From a distance, as we haven’t seen this BIL and SIL in over 20 years.

I am too career-minded, not house-proud enough, and am a dead loss because I’m not interested in sport. Plus I ‘took DH away’ by studying and working overseas. She also can’t get past me having one child by choice when she had seven. I remain very fond of her, as DH’s mother, but she is terribly tactless and unable to put herself in other people’s shoes. She’s said and done fairly awful things on a number of occasions down the decades.

BUT the reason I am the only one of her DILs who is in regular contact, and makes a point of taking DS to see her when DH is away, is because I am a flexible, imaginative person. I can see that her early life (eldest of 13, very poor, lots of problems) meant that she had to become a battleaxe to survive. She had no opportunities, no education, she was taken out of school at 12 and had three children by her 21st birthday in two rooms over a shop. A sensitive, imaginative person wouldn’t have battled through.

I could list genuinely hurtful things she’s done to me down the years, but none of them were malicious, just thoughtless. I just don’t register as ‘readable’ as a personality for her (similarly poor background, and eldest of a large family, but the age difference meant I was able to get to university on scholarships and escape.) I understand her, she can’t understand me, so I am the one making the effort to keep the show on the road in DH’s absence. Even though I’m not the DIL she would have liked. None of her DILs are.

WeAllHaveWings · 13/02/2025 12:33

HaloTRI · 12/02/2025 19:10

No, we arrived at the agreed time, text them along the way too so that they knew when we would be arriving. They obviously knew we had a long drive. I wouldn't care, we sat ages when we arrived, politely awaiting the good ( my DH eating his own hands) before he even asked his son, quietly, when we would be eating!

No real back story. We were navigating different expectations within families (DiL going to bed one afternoon when we visited so we didn't see her, DiL the only one not to join the family for breakfast when we all stayed in a house together) but nothing major. We are quite easy going and accept that different families have different expectations. These are not necessarily wrong ( apart from eating the party food before we arrived and sending us to the shop…😉).

They had invited us to the ‘birthday’.

I still can't believe how quiet it is on here, given that ‘in-laws’ get such bad press. 😂

before he even asked his son, quietly, when we would be eating!

The same as many MIL issue stories are replied with as "you don't have a MIL you have a DH issue", you don't have a DIL issue you have a DS issue. Why did he not arrange for something for your to eat, or at least discuss with your DIL when they were making plans, when he knew you were coming from a distance. It is not solely your DIL's responsibility to host you. For all you know your DS said to DIL, its okay they won't need feeding as only there for a couple of hours.

MaJoady · 13/02/2025 12:17

But why is OP's story about a horrible DIL? Surely it's about a horrible DIL and SS?

pikkumyy77 · 13/02/2025 12:11

HaloTRI · 13/02/2025 10:56

Have you seen the ‘barrage of awful stories’ about the MiL, repeatedly on here?

Clearly not! 😂

So ok to share awful stories about the MiL, just not the DiL!

Maybe there aren’t enough stories?

Lurkingandlearning · 13/02/2025 12:10

HaloTRI · 12/02/2025 15:28

Mine was my step son and daughter in law inviting us to our DGD first birthday, a two and a half hour drive away.

When we arrived at the venue, armed with gifts, our DiL announced ‘this isn't her real birthday or party, that is next week’. Clearly we weren't invited.

We sat with DiL’s family, waiting for the birthday tea and the cake with candles to be lit/cut, and when my DH asked DSS and DiL what time everyone was eating, we were told ‘everyone has had the food, M&S is across the road if you need to buy anything!’.

Quietly we went and bought a sandwich and drove the two and a half hours home!

Edited

Oh that’s nasty. Why did they even bother inviting you

JudgeJ · 13/02/2025 12:09

telephonelady · 13/02/2025 12:00

My MIL invited her friend who was going through chemo to our son's christening. Absolutely fine, she was welcome. I'd not met her before. I made a point of talking to her in the church after the ceremony. I did speak to her at the reception but probably not for long because I had lots of friends and family who'd made an effort to travel. Plus I had to deal with food, drinks and two DCs.
MIL forwarded a message her friend sent afterwards, saying she'd she'd appreciated how much my SIL's had chatted to her and that they were lovely. She said she was sure I was probably lovely too but I hadn't spoken to her much.

Now why would my MIL think it was necessary for me to see that message? It was her passive aggressive way of letting me know that she wasn't happy with how much attention I'd paid her unwell friend.

I'm sure she'd tell you a different version Angry

And I would guarantee that neither story would be 100% true because we all put an interpretation on it to make us look good.

Fargo79 · 13/02/2025 12:05

HaloTRI · 13/02/2025 10:56

Have you seen the ‘barrage of awful stories’ about the MiL, repeatedly on here?

Clearly not! 😂

So ok to share awful stories about the MiL, just not the DiL!

Genuinely not following this "logic".

There are lots of threads about shitty MILs...You have started a thread specifically asking for stories about shitty DILs/SILs...Barely anyone is sharing any bad DIL/SIL stories...
And somehow you've reached the conclusion that this is because it's "not OK" to share these stories? Even though we're on an anonymous site and this thread is explicitly inviting them to do so?

Surely the obvious reason would just be that fewer people have nightmare SIL/DILs than bad MILs 🤷 If you're seeing more anonymous posts about crap MILs then it's probably because there are more crap MILs.

WifeImprovementWorksInProgress · 13/02/2025 12:04

Ugh, your dil sounds like a shocker op (and your step son sounds not much better for allowing it), I'm really sorry.

I think many more people on mn have a mil than are mils, which is why you see more mil than dil moans.

I would post something on behalf of my own mil, but as I am perfection itself there is nothing to say 😄

JudgeJ · 13/02/2025 12:03

Cookiecrumblepie · 12/02/2025 20:44

Yeah I have no story. It’s usually in the in-laws overstepping

We're back to needing a Bollocks button!
To put it simply, they're all 'in-laws' to someone but this being MN one assumes that your ridiculous statement refers to the older in-laws.

Tagyoureit · 13/02/2025 12:00

A ex-friend told me his wife got absolutely shit faced one Christmas Day, screamed blue murder at his mother who was down from Manchester, pulled the Christmas tree down and made a complete show of herself.

He said his poor mum was so upset that she left very early boxing day. The kids ran off upstairs, he was left downstairs picking up the tree whilst his wife drank more then passed out drunk, woke up in the morning not remembering how truly awful she'd been to everyone including her own kids.

OpalQuartz · 13/02/2025 12:00

FoxtonFoxton · 13/02/2025 11:56

I think its quiet as a large proportion of MN are not at that stage of life yet. I've got nothing to share as I haven't got adult children with partners! Gransnet has a lot of DIL/SIL posts.

Hadn't read your post when I wrote pretty much the same thing. 🙂

telephonelady · 13/02/2025 12:00

My MIL invited her friend who was going through chemo to our son's christening. Absolutely fine, she was welcome. I'd not met her before. I made a point of talking to her in the church after the ceremony. I did speak to her at the reception but probably not for long because I had lots of friends and family who'd made an effort to travel. Plus I had to deal with food, drinks and two DCs.
MIL forwarded a message her friend sent afterwards, saying she'd she'd appreciated how much my SIL's had chatted to her and that they were lovely. She said she was sure I was probably lovely too but I hadn't spoken to her much.

Now why would my MIL think it was necessary for me to see that message? It was her passive aggressive way of letting me know that she wasn't happy with how much attention I'd paid her unwell friend.

I'm sure she'd tell you a different version Angry

OpalQuartz · 13/02/2025 11:59

HaloTRI · 12/02/2025 20:37

Not my son, but yes DH discusses this with his son.
His son’s response is usually ‘you are making life difficult for me, because DW will be cross’.

Not sure it does show that it is ‘generally inlaws overstepping’, it just shows a one sided bias on here.

Probably because of the age of most posters. I'm sure there would be more stories on gransnet.

wizzywig · 13/02/2025 11:58

I haven't been great as a dil, quite immature. I own it. She is great as a mother to my husband. We have both struggled with finding our roles and never resolved it. Grandkids (my kids) have missed out on that side of the family as the inlaws think women are the ones who should sort all that out. I have a lot of respect for her. But I can't be around her.

FoxtonFoxton · 13/02/2025 11:56

I think its quiet as a large proportion of MN are not at that stage of life yet. I've got nothing to share as I haven't got adult children with partners! Gransnet has a lot of DIL/SIL posts.

Vroomfondleswaistcoat · 13/02/2025 11:55

I've got three DILs and a SIL and I've wracked my brains to think of anything that any of them might have done, but have come to the decision that they are a delight, all of them.

I might, of course, be the MIL from hell, but they've all been too tactful to tell me if I am...

Motnight · 13/02/2025 11:52

CornishTickler · 13/02/2025 11:38

That's not what the OP was asking though.

She was looking for experiences of DILs/SILs being horrible.

So your projection back onto your MIL wasn't what she was talking about or actually relevant.

Plenty of SILs/DILs are vile as well. Its noy exclusively MILs.

HTH

@CornishTickler I don't need you policing what I write. Nor the passive aggressive HTH.

HTH

BeGoldHedgehog · 13/02/2025 11:50

MugsyBalonz · 13/02/2025 11:46

There can be vile people on both sides because realised complex and not everyone will get along however the power dynamics with a MIL-DIL relationship usually lend themselves to there being an unbalance when the "original keeper" of the DH resents being "replaced" by the DIL, established matriarch vs incomer. Happy people also don't tend to post about bad relationships too which is why you see far more negative stories posted than positive ones.

True, but I do think the older generation are worse for it. Maybe because their parents had expectations of them. I don't know why though, you'd think they'd try and break the cycle.

MugsyBalonz · 13/02/2025 11:46

CornishTickler · 13/02/2025 11:38

That's not what the OP was asking though.

She was looking for experiences of DILs/SILs being horrible.

So your projection back onto your MIL wasn't what she was talking about or actually relevant.

Plenty of SILs/DILs are vile as well. Its noy exclusively MILs.

HTH

There can be vile people on both sides because realised complex and not everyone will get along however the power dynamics with a MIL-DIL relationship usually lend themselves to there being an unbalance when the "original keeper" of the DH resents being "replaced" by the DIL, established matriarch vs incomer. Happy people also don't tend to post about bad relationships too which is why you see far more negative stories posted than positive ones.

BeGoldHedgehog · 13/02/2025 11:46

I'll go. Made their son get married and then tricked him into having his own life. The sheer audacity.

CornishTickler · 13/02/2025 11:38

Motnight · 13/02/2025 11:30

My MIL would say that I refused to let my DD stay with her when DD was a baby / small child. True. As a teenager DD stayed overnight with her twice and both times asked to come home early.

That I didn't welcome her friend who for some reason she volunteered our spare bedroom to when they were in our city. True - friend whom I had never met turned up just before midnight pissed with another drunk woman who offered to sleep with DH 🤣

That she should have had a more visible role at my wedding day. She had to be asked by the Registrar to be quiet during the service, loudly criticised the venue and told my best friend that my husband was only marrying me for my pension.

That's not what the OP was asking though.

She was looking for experiences of DILs/SILs being horrible.

So your projection back onto your MIL wasn't what she was talking about or actually relevant.

Plenty of SILs/DILs are vile as well. Its noy exclusively MILs.

HTH

MrsMitford3 · 13/02/2025 11:32

HaloTRI · 13/02/2025 10:56

Have you seen the ‘barrage of awful stories’ about the MiL, repeatedly on here?

Clearly not! 😂

So ok to share awful stories about the MiL, just not the DiL!

Of course I have-but they are usually on a thread which starts by the OP sharing something that happened or a dilemma-
not just a request for a pile on.

Motnight · 13/02/2025 11:30

My MIL would say that I refused to let my DD stay with her when DD was a baby / small child. True. As a teenager DD stayed overnight with her twice and both times asked to come home early.

That I didn't welcome her friend who for some reason she volunteered our spare bedroom to when they were in our city. True - friend whom I had never met turned up just before midnight pissed with another drunk woman who offered to sleep with DH 🤣

That she should have had a more visible role at my wedding day. She had to be asked by the Registrar to be quiet during the service, loudly criticised the venue and told my best friend that my husband was only marrying me for my pension.

CornishTickler · 13/02/2025 11:05

Witnessed my SIL slagging off my MIL in her house whilst MIL was in the kitchen preparing food. Her and her husband used to pick on MIL and make FIL out to be golden balls.

Even DILS own DD was hugely embarrassed and told her to stop being horrible. I said to my DH how bitchy it was and I felt sorry for his mum.

Made a point of being really nice to MIL and bigging her up after all her efforts.

Can't stand SIL and BIL tbh and have gone NC with them since. They are mean girls who delight in picking on people to make themselves feel better.

HaloTRI · 13/02/2025 10:56

MrsMitford3 · 12/02/2025 20:45

Very odd thread tbh. You seem to want a barrage of awful stories?

I adore my DIL and DIL to be.

I also loved my in-laws and I was very close to them.

It can be a lovely relationship going both ways...

Have you seen the ‘barrage of awful stories’ about the MiL, repeatedly on here?

Clearly not! 😂

So ok to share awful stories about the MiL, just not the DiL!

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