School won’t/can’t do anything about SEN child causing distress

Some people on MN really enjoy a disability bashing thread esp if they can lay into a vulnerable child.

This! It’s grim.

Let's be clear??

the SEN child in their class touched them & another child ‘over their clothes in their private area

So thats at least two DC that were touched in their private area.

But other children did not have their actual private parts touched.

How many DC actually need to have their private parts touched before it does become a very different situation....two, four?

That's mumsnet for you .

It's highly unlikely that the child recognises his actions as sexual. Like a toddler, he's likely to have recognised that when he does a particular thing, it gets attention.

Of course that doesn't help the children he's doing it to, and tennis behaviour had to be controlled. But there are quite a lot of people on this thread who are speaking about this child in the way that they would an adult sex offender, which is way over the top

I wouldn't and I have made it crystal clear in my post that this is not ok. However, it isn't the disabled child's fault. The whole situation it appears is the result of the LA not meeting their statutory duty and lapses of safeguarding by the school.

Some people on MN really enjoy a disability bashing thread esp if they can lay into a vulnerable child.

You need to be angry at the school for not safe guiding the children SEN covers a huge range of children from extremely mild needs to profound learning disabilities
If a child is on the severe end they may have little awareness of whst they have done
The onus is on the school though to make sure these incidents don't happen.

"How do you know he’s cognitively around two?"

His mother has said that he is.
He is not two though. He is a child with a severe learning disability. Sometimes this type of behaviour happens.Its a form of challenging behaviour and needs proper management.

God, here we go, another ill informed moron has found this thread.

Let's be clear. From the OP:

the SEN child in their class touched them & another child ‘over their clothes in their private area

Of course this should not happen and needs addressing. But other children did not have their actual private parts touched. If they had, then this would be a very different situation.
It appears that some posters think that this is what happened.

I don't see anyone suggesting it's acceptable.

Because the child's mother said apparently ", obviously I don't know the child so can't say
However I do have a disabled 14 year old who is cognitively around 2/3 ,and whilst he doesn't show any sexual behaviour, he does have extremely challenging behaviour and will hit out.

I'd be the same as the OP had it of been my DC...

The OP's DC has had their private parts touched and is of course feeling distressed.

But as in some cases with these kind of threads because it's a SEN DC involved the reason for the original post re the DC having their private parts touched has got lost amongst those making excuses for his behaviour.

Touching other peoples private body parts is not something that should be looked on as the next thing to become acceptable.

So you would be jolly and good with your child being touched on their private parts would you?
I would be furious, just because the child has Sen does not mean they get to get away with this.

How do you know he’s cognitively around two?

Even if you’re correct, do two year olds behave like this?

The amount of absolute nonsense you have just made up is astonishing.

He's cognitively around two
How do you sort a two year olds morals out?

The amount of mothers allowing their kids to be assaulted is astonishing

It’s a disabled child. He needs to be in the right setting for his needs.

What exactly do you suggest should be done?

And mothers of daughters doing nothing about it. Boycott it, spread the news, go to wherever you have to go!!!

I am skeptical that a local authority has flat out refused to fund transport for a child who clearly meets distance criteria. I can believe there is a delay to arrangements coming into effect. Many LAs switched from automatically providing transport to specialist, to parents having to apply. It's possible this has been delayed or parents haven't been helped to apply.

The other possibility is that there is a closer maintained specialist school which said it could also meet the child's needs, let's say 2 miles away, and the LA wanted to name that school but parents wanted the further away school. Under that situation the LA is not obliged to pay for both parental preference of school and for transport to get there, because there is a school just 2 miles away that would have taken him. In that situation they might have to fight more for transport.

What a taxi is going to achieve here.... The amount of nonsense on these threads. Also venersting a school which allow sexual assaults and oh the poor sexual offenders. Like are you mad or what

And clearly down to money the LA doesn’t want to or can’t spend.

I feel sorry for everyone in this situation
I feel sorry for child with SEN and his parents
I feel sorry for the other children and their parents
I feel sorry for the teachers

Its frustrating when there is an obvious solution for everyone

I would certainly hold the LA accountable - but unfortunately I suspect it will go nowhere. The police are unlikely to try or even think about bringing charges against a LA - they just don’t have the clout (nor I suspect the desire) to do so. The system is irrevocably broken at the moment- hence why I used to run a preschool and no longer do!

I would suggest the only option open to the OP is to go to the local safeguarding team, but that will then escalate to involving the parents/ school/ probably Ofsted too so it’s whether she wants to go down this route.