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Woman shouted at me for parking in a disabled spot

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AusMumhere · 12/02/2025 09:03

I parked in a disabled spot at the supermarket today. A woman about four cars away shouted at me and said 'that's a wheelie spot'. I shouted back 'I have a permit'. She then yelled 'where's ya walker?'. I said 'not all disabilities are visible'. I hate confrontation of any kind.
Should I have walked away or should I have responded? I'm still in shock that I shouted.

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JandamiHash · 12/02/2025 17:24

AusMumhere · 12/02/2025 10:20

Thanks everyone. I almost wish I'd said more - but calmly.

Honestly next time just say “Yes, and?”. And if they say “It’s for wheelchairs” say “No it isn’t”. Few words as possible and watch them make a fool of themselves.

JandamiHash · 12/02/2025 17:23

I wouldn’t have even justified myself OP.

I have a badge for DS and when people say “Excuse me that’s a disabled space” I always say “Ah well done you! Before you know it you’ll be counting to 10!” In the most patronising tone I can. Fucks me right off (invisible disability here also) and makes DS giggle.

JoyousGreyOrca · 12/02/2025 17:22

Rosscameasdoody · 12/02/2025 17:12

Yes, I can appreciate that. I was a disability outreach worker for many years - didn’t come across epilepsy as a stand alone condition very often, but when I did, generally for disability benefit and concessions such as blue badge, etc, the safety factor is always taken into account and generally consideration is given to how often and how severe the seizures are and whether medication adequately controls them. I think, as with some other conditions, they err on the side of caution.

I understand that. I think the issues are because there is a lack of spaces. That is caused by people who do not have badges parking in disabled spaces, but also by the widening of the criteria for a Blue Badge without any increase in spaces.

ObviouslyBlooming · 12/02/2025 17:22

EmmaMaria · 12/02/2025 09:47

If you were displaying a blue badge then it was none of her business. If you were not then she should have been politer, but would have been correct. I have just returned from a car park that I have visited frequently recently. There are six disabled spaces and they are routinely taken by people too lazy to walk a few yards to Costcutter. I have a blue badge and can only walk a few yards to anywhere. If I were able to be God for a week, I would make it so that anyone who parked in a disabled space without a blue badge should be striken by a disabling condition for 24 hours.

I’m seriously considering buying some of those stickers saying ‘disabled spot only!’. Those with strong glue that are hard to remove….

imtheholidayarmadillo · 12/02/2025 17:20

BoundaryGirl3939 · 12/02/2025 16:28

You did just comment on it though.

Anyone who can walk 20 mins to a concert venue, spend hours there, and walk back to their car, should not be taking disabled spaces from people who are genuinely disabled. That's a scam.

I have spoken to many wheelchair users who say the system is abused.

Well they sound ill-informed, as do you.

Do you really think a person isn't disabled if they can walk?

Sebsaloysius · 12/02/2025 17:17

Bookworm20 · 12/02/2025 09:54

She was rude yes, but were you displaying your badge? It is a nightmare when someone who uses a wheelchair can't park because they can't actually get out of the car.
However if you were displaying your badge and have mobility issues then of course she was rude as you are as entitled to it as the next person.
I mean i'm assuming you didn't hop out the car and jog happily into the shops.

The OP was displaying her blue badge. And it wouldn't have made the slightest difference if she did 'hop out of the car and jog happily into the shops' because not every disability is visible or obvious.

imtheholidayarmadillo · 12/02/2025 17:17

BoundaryGirl3939 · 12/02/2025 16:04

They are handing those Wheelchair cards out like smarties. A lazy and overweight neighbour of mine is trying to get one. My brother, who is in a wheelchair, frequently can't park in wheelchair spots because they are taken by people who have can walk without any issue. The system is being abused.

Only people in wheelchairs, or people are have significant difficulties, walking should get them. It's turning into a joke.

Really??? 🙄

Rosscameasdoody · 12/02/2025 17:12

JoyousGreyOrca · 12/02/2025 16:55

@Rosscameasdoody But if you are walking on pavements and at crossings, it is no more dangerous than having a fit inside a public building. Most Blue Badge spaces are outside a venue, but they are not that much closer than a general car park space.

Yes, I can appreciate that. I was a disability outreach worker for many years - didn’t come across epilepsy as a stand alone condition very often, but when I did, generally for disability benefit and concessions such as blue badge, etc, the safety factor is always taken into account and generally consideration is given to how often and how severe the seizures are and whether medication adequately controls them. I think, as with some other conditions, they err on the side of caution.

Rosscameasdoody · 12/02/2025 17:06

BoundaryGirl3939 · 12/02/2025 16:04

They are handing those Wheelchair cards out like smarties. A lazy and overweight neighbour of mine is trying to get one. My brother, who is in a wheelchair, frequently can't park in wheelchair spots because they are taken by people who have can walk without any issue. The system is being abused.

Only people in wheelchairs, or people are have significant difficulties, walking should get them. It's turning into a joke.

Possibly the most ignorant and offensive post here. Can’t even be arsed trying to address any of it.

K0OLA1D · 12/02/2025 17:04

BoundaryGirl3939 · 12/02/2025 16:04

They are handing those Wheelchair cards out like smarties. A lazy and overweight neighbour of mine is trying to get one. My brother, who is in a wheelchair, frequently can't park in wheelchair spots because they are taken by people who have can walk without any issue. The system is being abused.

Only people in wheelchairs, or people are have significant difficulties, walking should get them. It's turning into a joke.

Christ almighty

Rosscameasdoody · 12/02/2025 17:04

mitogoshigg · 12/02/2025 16:50

@Rosscameasdoody

Actually my DD's gp does sign the medical need section of the form you take to the council. For her it's the bus pass we accept as she's unable to drive (epilepsy) but the council offers blue badges from the same form (we didn't accept it because she can walk just fine)

GP’s do need to do this to certify that in their opinion there is a medical need. But as with any concession based on medical evidence, the LA may not necessarily agree if the applicant fails to meet the criteria.

Many LA’s initially use the same form for application for the blue badge, but the eligibility criteria are not the same as that for a bus pass, so applicants specifically applying for the blue badge are usually sent a more detailed form and/or asked to attend a face to face interview unless it can be determined from medical evidence or initial information that they would qualify, or alternatively if they are claiming a qualifying disability benefit.

I think in your DD’s case a blue badge would be offered because of the nature of the disability and the risk factors involved. Interestingly up until recently LA’s used to accept a blue badge as sufficient evidence of disability when applying for a disabled persons travel pass but for reasons best known to themselves, they no longer allow this.

JoyousGreyOrca · 12/02/2025 16:55

@Rosscameasdoody But if you are walking on pavements and at crossings, it is no more dangerous than having a fit inside a public building. Most Blue Badge spaces are outside a venue, but they are not that much closer than a general car park space.

JohnTheRevelator · 12/02/2025 16:54

crappymeal · 12/02/2025 09:35

I was in the bus the other day with my sister who has terminal cancer and struggles to get far and she sat at the front in the 'disabled' seats. Some lady got on at the next stop and started screaming that she shouldn't be sat there and it was for disabled people. I gave her a mouthful back and told her to shut her face. She soon looked like a twat. I don't feel bad and nor should you.

Omg how awful. So sorry your sister experienced this. I used to get this many years ago,as, despite using a walking stick,apparently,I 'looked too young to be disabled'. Thankfully,now I'm 61,it doesn't happen any more.

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Coffeeishot · 12/02/2025 16:54

mitogoshigg · 12/02/2025 16:50

@Rosscameasdoody

Actually my DD's gp does sign the medical need section of the form you take to the council. For her it's the bus pass we accept as she's unable to drive (epilepsy) but the council offers blue badges from the same form (we didn't accept it because she can walk just fine)

But she has a bus pass ? I mean nobody is forcing you to take a BB but you didn't have to refuse it because "she walks just fine",

Rosscameasdoody · 12/02/2025 16:51

mitogoshigg · 12/02/2025 16:42

@Inabitofbother

I think the bar to get them does vary. My dd was offered one (or rather I was offered one as dd is forbidden from driving as she's epileptic) when we were collecting her disabled bus pass, the lady at the council was surprised when I turned it down, my dd doesn't have any mobility issues unless she's having a seizure, and her kind of seizure aren't the kind that parking spaces make any difference. According to the council lady the blue badge is offered with a disability bus pass automatically at that council. Not being able to drive for medical reasons is separate to your ability to walk to the supermarket, some people need both but not all. I couldn't with good conscience take it

The bar doesn’t vary for blue badge issue. The rules are set by central government and councils in England are only permitted to make minor changes because the rules are designed to be consistent across the country. Your DD will have been offered those concessions because epilepsy can present as a danger in areas where there is traffic volume. And blue badges aren’t offered automatically with anything else. They are a stand alone concession - qualifying for a disabled bus pass won’t necessarily qualify you for a blue badge because they have different eligibility criteria. Your DD would have had to make a stand alone application for a blue badge.

mitogoshigg · 12/02/2025 16:50

@Rosscameasdoody

Actually my DD's gp does sign the medical need section of the form you take to the council. For her it's the bus pass we accept as she's unable to drive (epilepsy) but the council offers blue badges from the same form (we didn't accept it because she can walk just fine)

Rosscameasdoody · 12/02/2025 16:43

BoundaryGirl3939 · 12/02/2025 16:28

You did just comment on it though.

Anyone who can walk 20 mins to a concert venue, spend hours there, and walk back to their car, should not be taking disabled spaces from people who are genuinely disabled. That's a scam.

I have spoken to many wheelchair users who say the system is abused.

Of course it’s not a scam, what an ignorant thing to say. The ability to walk isn’t a factor in many disabilities - and it’s by no means only wheelchair users who need these spaces. Even when it is, it’s not just the distance covered that’s taken into account, it depends on a lot of things. Or is it that you think disabled people shouldn’t be attending concerts or generally taking part in society ? That’s what disability benefits and blue badges are designed to enable them to do. Or has your unconscious bias blinded you to that fact ?

mitogoshigg · 12/02/2025 16:42

@Inabitofbother

I think the bar to get them does vary. My dd was offered one (or rather I was offered one as dd is forbidden from driving as she's epileptic) when we were collecting her disabled bus pass, the lady at the council was surprised when I turned it down, my dd doesn't have any mobility issues unless she's having a seizure, and her kind of seizure aren't the kind that parking spaces make any difference. According to the council lady the blue badge is offered with a disability bus pass automatically at that council. Not being able to drive for medical reasons is separate to your ability to walk to the supermarket, some people need both but not all. I couldn't with good conscience take it

XenoBitch · 12/02/2025 16:37

BoundaryGirl3939 · 12/02/2025 16:28

You did just comment on it though.

Anyone who can walk 20 mins to a concert venue, spend hours there, and walk back to their car, should not be taking disabled spaces from people who are genuinely disabled. That's a scam.

I have spoken to many wheelchair users who say the system is abused.

You don't need to be in a wheelchair to used disabled spaces though. A lot of people get permits/BB to use those spaces and do not use wheelchairs.

Rosscameasdoody · 12/02/2025 16:36

BoundaryGirl3939 · 12/02/2025 16:14

Unfortunately they are given out like sweets by some doctors.
My brother has a wheelchair bay outside his house. He lives a 20 min walk from a well known concert venue. Whenever a concert is due to take place, you can guarantee a chancer with a badge will try take it if he's not at home.
Anyone who can walk 20 mins to a concert venue, enjoy the concert, and make the walk back to the car hours later is taking the piss. They shouldn't be taking the space from someone who is actually disabled.

Blue badges are not given out by doctors. The disabled person has to apply to the issuing local authority and the criteria are stringent. The decision to issue a badge isn’t dependent on the applicants’ GP or any other doctor. It’s dependent on whether the medical evidence presented supports the fact that the applicant satisfies the conditions for issue of a badge. And that decision is down to the local authority.

On your point about the disabled bay - it may be outside your brothers’ house but if it’s on street it isn’t for his exclusive use. Anyone with a valid badge can park in it. And it might interest you to know that blue badges aren’t just issued for walking disabilities - they can be issued for any number of conditions where walking would exacerbate them. Heart conditions for example. Mental health disabilities where there is no appreciation of danger, epilepsy and other seizure based disabilities. Too many to list here. So the criteria for how far someone can walk doesn’t always apply - and even when it does it’s not just the distance covered, it’s’ the manner in which someone walks, how long it takes, how much help they need, whether it causes them pain, and many other considerations.

If someone has a valid badge then they have been awarded it by someone far more qualified than you to judge whether they qualify for it, and they can legally use that or any other disabled space. To call people you know nothing about chancers and piss takers is fairly disgusting and shows a lack of critical thinking.

JaneBoleynViscountessRochford · 12/02/2025 16:36

I honestly can’t count how many times I have had abuse for parking in a disabled bay, my Mum is disabled so I get out first and then go to get her door and people see me and just go off on one. It’s always been other people with blue badges who want the space, their attitude has always been terrible.

Had the same shite once being parked in a parent and child space, sat in the car (massively 9 months pregnant with a huge toddler car seat in the back) while DH took our toddler DS in to get new shoes. Parking brings out the wanker in everyone.

FedUpandEatingChocolate · 12/02/2025 16:32

ExtraOnions · 12/02/2025 10:22

Probably not going to be popular … but I think those spaces should be specifically for people with mobility issues, and those who need to get wheelchairs / scooters etc out of the car.

Some disabilities aren’t visible which is correct, and some people have disabilities that good days and bad days, just because you “can” doesn’t mean you “should”

Erm, do you think it's easy to get a blue badge?! We had to provide a ridiculous amount of evidence for my child's blue badge.

BoundaryGirl3939 · 12/02/2025 16:28

Coffeeishot · 12/02/2025 16:19

I can't even be arsed to comment on the concert space scenario I mean how dare somebody have an evening out.

You did just comment on it though.

Anyone who can walk 20 mins to a concert venue, spend hours there, and walk back to their car, should not be taking disabled spaces from people who are genuinely disabled. That's a scam.

I have spoken to many wheelchair users who say the system is abused.

Coffeeishot · 12/02/2025 16:28

Bodenne · 12/02/2025 16:20

Lol at wheelie. Where on earth do you live?

Australia

BoundaryGirl3939 · 12/02/2025 16:23

TigerRag · 12/02/2025 16:17

I think you need to look up the criteria. I can walk 20 metres. I can't do it safely without the help of another person due to dual sensory loss

I don't know you, or your condition Tigerrag, so I'm not going to discuss your difficulty.

I'm talking about people who are able bodied, can obviously walk unaided, who feel no guilt in taking a space from a genuinely disabled person.

Where I'm from, you get your car for cheaper, and tax back on petrol if you have a wheelchair card. Obviously the system will get scammed.