Court summons for speedingTicket

Now you’ve filled in the form to say you are the registered keeper, have you also updated the V5C (logbook)?
Also, are you driving on your husband’s insurance policy?

The court is only concerned with who was driving, the issue of keeper is pretty moot. First you got the notice of intended prosecution, which although filled incorrectly regarding keeper, correctly stated your husband was driving, he then received a fixed penalty notice, which was sent back late, resulting in a court summons. The summons as I understand it is for the speeding offence in his name, not for incorrect information regarding the keeper.

I am not a legal expert but I would imagine unless you have been summonsed for providing incorrect information regarding the keeper status, then all he has to do is deal with the outstanding charge of speeding and plead guilty to it. Likely 3 points and bigger fine plus costs.

Try reading the op instead of making wild guesses. She clearly states there he opened it, read it, then showed her.

But then this is MN where any driving thread has posters falling over themselves to make even more drama out of a crisis.

Sound like the husband said I have a speeding ticket it's in your car, OP looks at letter, thinks it is her car and fills it in, then this error delays the whole process, I can't see anything that says she opens her husband's letters or saying she was driving

Since the OP is not saying how the form ended up in her possession, I am going to have a wild guess that she opens her husband's letters.

Do you think she was trying to let you know the consequences would be financial?

I was given a speed awareness course for doing 34 in a 30. I was around 100yds from the zone entry point, but hadn't slowed quickly enough due to being behind a lorry, so seeing the left post too late, and the right post being behind a tree branch (which has since been cut, so someone must have appealed).

I wouldn't trust that chart.

I don't think your post is misleading at all, I also know someone who was given more than 3 points when taken to court because they were speeding on a motorway, 91mph I believe.

They were also fined way more than the standard £100 because it had to be dealt with by the court due to the excessive speed

I'm not misleading anyone.
I am relaying an experience my colleague has had only 3 months ago
The speeds being driven do also account for whether a course, a fixed penalty or a court summons are issued.

My colleague had 6 points when they got a 6 month ban for speeding. They had been speeding twice before in a 5 year period.

No problem. As long as the only offence on the summons is the speeding then the magistrate will follow the sentencing guidelines I linked to. If the speed falls within the 3 points margin (so no more than 65 in a 50 zone) then that's what he'll get.

@Imapebble it's an SJPN that's been served.

If there was a suspicion of PCoJ there'd be more than an SJPN involved.

OP I assume you were going to take the points for your husband so completed the form with your details.

Again, just an assumption, but maybe the police confirmed there was photographic evidence after receiving your details and so you have now had to admit you weren't driving (often happens in these situations).

The letter you receive after a speeding offence isn't to confirm the registered keeper, it is addressed to the registered keeper and they have to confirm if they were the driver. So your explanation doesn't make sense.

The Section 172 form that your husband will have received shows -

Section A: fill in this section if you can confirm you were the driver

Section B: is to confirm you were not the driver, not the owner/keeper because you have sold the vehicle or it's a hire vehicle, etc.

Section C: give details of the driver as per reasons given in section B

It will be decided at court whether it remains a driving offence only, or if they will pursue you/your husband for providing false information to avoid prosecution.

I used to be a magistrate, although I didn't ever do SJP. I'm pretty sure these are done remotely now and your husband won't actually need to attend court.

The summons is for your husband's speeding, it sounds like this is just because it took ages for them to receive all the correct information. The offence he is summoned for is his speeding and not directly about you or your actions. Although if you had replied correctly it sounds like it could have been avoided.

Regarding what trouble your husband is in, based on the speed you mentioned it'll probably be 3 points and a band A fine (the fine is based on income). Take a look at this which explains sentencing guidelines that all magistrates follow https://www.sentencingcouncil.org.uk/offences/magistrates-court/item/speeding-revised-2017/. I don't know what standard court fees are for SJP, but as long as he's pleading guilty I can't imagine it being more than £100.

So yes you made a mistake, but you are not in trouble for it under the court summons. Worse case scenario is your husband's fine will increase from £100 to whatever 50% of his weekly earnings are plus court fees. And hopefully he takes more care in future because another speeding ticket will be disqualification.

It's simply not possible for that to happen in OP's DH's situation.

The ONLY way your colleague could end up in court, get 3pts and get banned is if they already had 9+ points.

You stated they had been caught speeding twice before, so that means one of those wasn't a fixed penalty, otherwise they would have had 6 points and could not be banned by getting another 3.

It's unhelpful to OP to post misleading things.

IAObvsNAL but yes if it’s “just” the speeding issue then hopefully it won’t actually involve you personally.

Try to keep your own involvement in perspective. It is really your husband’s situation to sort out.

@Wanttohelpbuthow Single Justice Procedure is explained here. Take a breath and have a read of it.

https://www.advicenow.org.uk/get-help/going-court/how-deal-single-justice-procedure-notice-sjpn

When you get the paperwork it will explain what the offence is. If it is just the speeding they're interested in that will make it much more straightforward.

This is exactly what happened to a colleague of mine 3 months ago.

He got caught speeding for a 3rd time and was summoned to court and given 3 points, a fine and 6 month ban.

So it's an SJPN not a summons then, OP. They are different things.

There is still a chance that will get only 3pts and a small fine if the situation is properly explained and he can do that while pleading guilty (by post) to the SJPN.

If they accept that, he won't get banned as banning can only happen in court.

Or have they actually said it's a court hearing only?

Absolute nonsense.

Having 6pts does NOT preclude you from getting another fixed penalty.

Why on earth post that?