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I have the money for repairs but cannot face dealing with trades. AIBU to just live in the house as it is

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Eastie77Returns · 11/02/2025 19:17

Just that really. Bought the house a few years ago. I had threads going at the time about my horrendous experience with Trades. In one particular case (main builder) the police ended up getting involved. We thankfully found decent builders to fix his awful work but even they made errors and ruined some of our new flooring with paint.

We did find some good trades: a Carpenter who did our in wardrobes and shelves, the joiner who put in our doors, the flooring team. They were amazing. But the guys we employed for the bigger stuff…it was awful.

Eventually we ran out of cash and just accepted we would live with the shoddy work we couldn’t fix. Now I’ve inherited some money and I’m in a position to get stuff fixed and add a loft conversion. However I’ve decided for the benefit of my mental health that I cannot do it. I cannot face dealing with Trades again. The lies, the dishonesty, the unprofessionalism. It’s too much. I feel it’s inevitable I’ll be ripped off and a loft conversion will involve so much time, money and disruption.

On the other hand, the house looks shabby. It is a bit embarrassing having guests round when so much needs doing.. The walls already need repainting, skirting boards are awful. The house needs a glow up. I am not handy and neither is DP so we cannot do it ourselves. And we really do need the extra room the conversion will bring. I don’t trust any trades.

The funny thing is I do actually like the house. It has grown on me. It’s old but I like the character. I just feel a bit depressed when I look at the grubby walls and all the bits that need doing.

I’m not even sure what my AIBU is. Should I just live in the house as it is for now and protect my well being?

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Nichebitch · 14/07/2025 23:51

In case no one has recommended this: get women trades! There’re a few websites adverting them, like this one
even my husband won’t get men now - I find women trades in general have more attention to detail and spare you the drama

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FemaleBuilder.com is your no. 1 place to find a female tradesperson near you! Find and contact women-led businesses in all areas of trade and construction.

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Vroomfondleswaistcoat · 14/07/2025 23:34

Fencehedge · 14/07/2025 23:29

Log burner = a Hetas registered person
Windows = Certas / Fensa

This is where the fitter / engineer is registered with the regulatory body overseeing standards, and thus can self-certify, skipping the need for Building Control approval.

If a DIY-er did any relevant works, they can ask a Building Control company to inspect and issue a compliance certificate instead. This can be via the council Building Control dept, or a private Building Control company.

Edited

Thank you, this makes perfect sense and also explains how DIYers can fit stuff and still sell their house!

Fencehedge · 14/07/2025 23:29

Vroomfondleswaistcoat · 14/07/2025 22:49

I don't think that's it, although I could be wrong. But when I bought my house, my vendors had to provide all the information and guarantees for, the fitting of the logburner and new windows and the oven to prove that they'd been fitted professionally and not by someone who was likely to have skipped safety checks.

Log burner = a Hetas registered person
Windows = Certas / Fensa

This is where the fitter / engineer is registered with the regulatory body overseeing standards, and thus can self-certify, skipping the need for Building Control approval.

If a DIY-er did any relevant works, they can ask a Building Control company to inspect and issue a compliance certificate instead. This can be via the council Building Control dept, or a private Building Control company.

Vroomfondleswaistcoat · 14/07/2025 22:49

TroysMammy · 14/07/2025 20:16

Building Regulations?

I don't think that's it, although I could be wrong. But when I bought my house, my vendors had to provide all the information and guarantees for, the fitting of the logburner and new windows and the oven to prove that they'd been fitted professionally and not by someone who was likely to have skipped safety checks.

Bamboozled72 · 14/07/2025 20:57

We do our own DIY. My dh refuses to pay tradesmen prices. We paint and decorate, plaster. My dh has taught himself how to move radiators. He even bought one and fitted it himself. He's changed light fittings and recently put in a built in wardrobe that he made himself. It's hard as we both work and sometimes we're busy at weekends, but honestly over the years he has learned to do loads of stuff. I don't do much more than painting myself. The thing is you know the quality is good if you've done it. I don't trust many people and my friends and neighbours have had some awful tradesmen over the years.

TroysMammy · 14/07/2025 20:16

Vroomfondleswaistcoat · 12/07/2025 11:22

Just a question but how do those of you who do all the plumbing and big construction jobs yourselves deal with the signing off of jobs when you sell the house? (I know there's a technical term for it, but I can't remember it offhand). I thought that you had to prove that all work had been carried out professionally and produce certificates to prove it - does that only cover some things?

Building Regulations?

kiwiane · 12/07/2025 11:24

Yes do nothing and leave the tradespeople for others - there’s just not enough good ones to go around!

Vroomfondleswaistcoat · 12/07/2025 11:22

Just a question but how do those of you who do all the plumbing and big construction jobs yourselves deal with the signing off of jobs when you sell the house? (I know there's a technical term for it, but I can't remember it offhand). I thought that you had to prove that all work had been carried out professionally and produce certificates to prove it - does that only cover some things?

TroysMammy · 12/07/2025 08:18

UPDATE the carpenter is starting the wardrobes tomorrow!

TroysMammy · 29/06/2025 09:16

I reckon DIY is just arts and crafts on a slightly bigger scale. It's not mysterious or difficult,it can be learned.

I never thought of it as that considering I have a craft room fit to burst and I've also built from kits and decorated a dolls house, beach hut and garden shed. I just need to think bigger than 1/12th scale.

Gunz · 28/06/2025 20:59

Yeah - when I divorced my husband 20+ years ago I didn't even possess a drill! Now own that, multi tool, jigsaw and umpteen other tools. Do agree that if you have the right tools it helps with alot of jobs. Do agree that plumbing and electrics you just have to pay out for. Thank goodness for YouTube demos!

reesewithoutaspoon · 21/06/2025 08:54

Fraudornot · 18/06/2025 12:49

I know this is a resurrected old thread but I would be interested to know about what jobs people have taught themself and which you tube channels you would recommend.

Stuff I've done myself with the help of YouTube: mainly through necessity as I couldn't afford to pay someone.

Laid a stone tiled floor
Plumbed in a complete bathroom
Replaced floor joists
Tiled a kitchen
General painting and decorating
Replaced skirting boards
Replaced light fittings and sockets
Constructed raised beds
Replaced thermostat in a built in oven
Hung a door included fitting the hinges lock plate and lock.
Loads of general maintenance stuff

The only thing I won't mess with is gas or electric beyond changing a switch plate or light fitting.

I don't use a particular person I just search for what I want to do and find a video that I like the presentation of ( some waffle too much)

The key things I have learnt over the years is have the right tools for the job,it makes a massive difference.Trying to mitre a corner with a crappy old hacksaw and no mitre block is a nightmare.
Prep prep and prep again, it makes a world of difference and is probably 80% of the actual job. Yes it's boring when you are itching to get it done but the results are so much better.

I reckon DIY is just arts and crafts on a slightly bigger scale. It's not mysterious or difficult,it can be learned

Eastie77Returns · 20/06/2025 09:28

TroysMammy · 16/06/2025 16:03

@Eastie77Returns I know this is a few months ago but I thought I would update. The electricians turned up and did the jobs I needed doing.
The Council repaired the flat roof shared with my Council tenant neighbour - no charge.
Then the carpenter called to quote for the bespoke wardrobes and storage.
The plasterer called to quote for the bedroom, hall stairs and landing.

The plumber/gas fitted replaced a gas hob which only 3 burners worked for years.
then my heating back boiler of 30 years started playing up. The plumber/gas fitter Called to quote a combi boiler. Because of the cost of this some jobs had to be put on hold.
The combi boiler was installed.
The plasterer prepped the bedroom for plastering tomorrow.
The Carpenter will be doing the wardrobes in July.

I'm so pleased with myself for biting the bullet and making those calls. After 36 years living here it is starting to take shape.

I hope you are similarly getting there?

Great to hear you’ve managed to get so much completed, well done!

I’ve committed to getting the loft converted but work on won’t start until next year. I’m reasonably comfortable with the company we’ve chosen. I visited a house where they’ve completed a conversion which looks great and they provided additional references. They do not advertise at all which for some reason makes them seem more trustworthy😂 The owner said all their work comes via recommendations/word of mouth.

Aside from that we need to sort the garden, shed/utility room and put some paving down. The walls still need repainting and skirting boards sorting but I’ve decided to put it all on hold and do it when the loft work is carried out. Might as well get it all done at once. I’m planning to take unpaid leave from work next year so thinking of mustering all my energy then to find trades to deal with those jobs. I cannot fathom juggling that whilst working FT and managing DC to be honest.

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username299 · 18/06/2025 13:32

I'm currently getting quotes to paint two medium sized rooms and the highest quote so far is 2.5k! He reckoned it would take 5 days. Some people think you were born yesterday.

Fraudornot · 18/06/2025 12:49

I know this is a resurrected old thread but I would be interested to know about what jobs people have taught themself and which you tube channels you would recommend.

username299 · 16/06/2025 16:54

WearyAuldWumman · 16/06/2025 16:47

Sorry you've had some setbacks @username299 , but it looks like you've been really productive.

Thanks, its been a slog! It's slowly getting there though.

WearyAuldWumman · 16/06/2025 16:47

Sorry you've had some setbacks @username299 , but it looks like you've been really productive.

WearyAuldWumman · 16/06/2025 16:47

Brilliant @TroysMammy .

username299 · 16/06/2025 16:23

I've been similarly busy but have experienced some setbacks:

Hall floor laid
Wardrobes fitted
Roof retiled
Gutters cleared and fixed
Shutters fitted
Bedroom repainted

Cock ups:
Painter messed up kitchen, so that has to be redone
Carpet which is only a few years old started rotting so needs to be replaced

Work outstanding:
Kitchen walls
Bathroom needs to be repainted
Carpet fitted

TroysMammy · 16/06/2025 16:03

@Eastie77Returns I know this is a few months ago but I thought I would update. The electricians turned up and did the jobs I needed doing.
The Council repaired the flat roof shared with my Council tenant neighbour - no charge.
Then the carpenter called to quote for the bespoke wardrobes and storage.
The plasterer called to quote for the bedroom, hall stairs and landing.

The plumber/gas fitted replaced a gas hob which only 3 burners worked for years.
then my heating back boiler of 30 years started playing up. The plumber/gas fitter Called to quote a combi boiler. Because of the cost of this some jobs had to be put on hold.
The combi boiler was installed.
The plasterer prepped the bedroom for plastering tomorrow.
The Carpenter will be doing the wardrobes in July.

I'm so pleased with myself for biting the bullet and making those calls. After 36 years living here it is starting to take shape.

I hope you are similarly getting there?

NeedWineNow · 18/02/2025 09:33

I do feel your pain OP. We've had some awful trades in the past. We're lucky now that we live in a village where we've got a great network of local trades - word gets around very quickly if someone hasn't done a good job and/or is unreliable.

As an example our next door neighbours were having their bathroom done by a local company - let's call them XX Home Refurbishment. We were looking to have similar works done and DH mentioned XX to a couple of builders who he knows in our local, just to get their thoughts. Both of DH"s friends said that they definitely wouldn't use them as sub-contractors at all. The reasons they gave absolutely coincided with those given by our neighbour when we saw her subsequently (unreliable and rude were two of the politest words!).

godmum56 · 18/02/2025 09:06

toastandtwo · 18/02/2025 08:56

Ahhh, my people! We had an amazing guy in to do some floorboards and DH and I both commented how it shouldn't feel so lucky and unusual to get a brilliant tradesperson who is honest, polite, hard working and skilled.

There's a reasonably big project that we've been wanting to do for years but I really can't face the sourcing quotes, having people in and so on.

DH is amazing at DIY and I think he could do all the works in our house (he's even good at electrics etc) but he works too many hours. I tell him if he ever wants to quit his job he's refurbishing the entire place before looking for anything else.

Floorboards! that reminds me. A few years ago now, I had remedial work done on the house after a MASSIVE radiator leak caused by a central heating company. The insurance workmen who came into rip the entire floor out, relay the floorboards, then re carpet were amazing....fast, courteous and both did an excellent job. The floor bloke lived locally so I asked if he had a card with his details on and he explained very politely that he only did work via insurance. He was absolutely open that the prices he could charge were insane (his words) and he had more work than he could handle.

toastandtwo · 18/02/2025 08:56

Ahhh, my people! We had an amazing guy in to do some floorboards and DH and I both commented how it shouldn't feel so lucky and unusual to get a brilliant tradesperson who is honest, polite, hard working and skilled.

There's a reasonably big project that we've been wanting to do for years but I really can't face the sourcing quotes, having people in and so on.

DH is amazing at DIY and I think he could do all the works in our house (he's even good at electrics etc) but he works too many hours. I tell him if he ever wants to quit his job he's refurbishing the entire place before looking for anything else.

Eastie77Returns · 18/02/2025 08:34

Toastandbutterand · 17/02/2025 11:34

I should add I had an electrician to modernise the light sockets on Friday.

SHE turned up 20 minutes early, completed everything in an hour, tested it all and swept up after herself. Gave me a free light switch change as well as one was cracked.

We had a fantastic female locksmith come out to sort out our locks when we moved into the new house. DP felt it necessary to stand over her and mansplain how she should do her job🙄 I had to almost forcibly remove him. I honestly don’t know how she controlled herself and didn’t knock him out with a lock, particularly as he really didn’t know what he was talking about.

There was a specific issue with a window lock that a previous (male) locksmith looked at, sucked his teeth and told me couldn’t be fixed without replacing the entire window and DP was telling her this. He then had to watch wordlessly as she replaced the lock with no fuss.

@TroysMammy we also have cracks in the wall/ceiling. And yeah, I’m not redocrating either. Just cannot face it. I can’t face getting the decorators back in either. They ruined some of our lovely new flooring last time and used different paint from the one we agreed on. We are going to do the loft next year so maybe I’ll bite the bullet and get someone in to redecorate at the same time. Dreading it all.

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TroysMammy · 17/02/2025 13:26

Cakeandcheeseforever · 17/02/2025 11:51

@TroysMammy if you have cracks/uneven surfaces it depends how bad they are but filler in any holes and then sandpapering over usually has made it look better before painting over

Sorry I wasn't asking for tips. I should have added the word mother in my last question. They are big settling cracks not hairline, house is ex council so not perfect. To be honest I'd rather iron clothes than do decorating and I hate hate hate ironing, you get my drift. I have no problem decorating my dolls house and other miniature buildings though but draw the line at doing it to my house. I have a short attention span for mundane things hence being on Mumsnet instead of hoovering 😀

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