To ask how we stop dangerous cyclists

What if they're deaf? Fucking hell. 🙄

Electric scooters are illegal to ride on public roads and footpaths and can only be used legally on private land.
Electric bikes are all sorts of legal weirdness, from pedal assist to electric motorbikes and off road bikes/dirt bikes. I'm not sure that anybody knows what is going on with any of them as there are so many types..

How do you know they can hear you? Do you have some sort of deaf person detector? Can you spot airpods in someone's ears from behind when they have long hair/wearing a hat?

I regularly walk along a shared path, which is clearly marked with a side for bikes and a side for pedestrians (markings in the path and regular signs). Barely any of the cyclists pay the slightest bit of attention, and often cycle aggressively close to pedestrians in order to (I assume) intimidate.

Maybe the cyclists should be pedestrian aware (and read the Highway Code about priority of road users and the use of shared paths!).

You would but motorist have to watch out for the more vulnerable cyclists and cyclists SHOULD take care near pedestrians who are even more vulnerable. . So many go too fast, through red lights at pedestrian crossings and have an outraged sense of superiority cos they are saving the planet.

If you can't stop for someone stepping into the road you are going too fast.

On Anglia News last week they were talking about how mobility scooter users should have to undergo tests and stricter rules for them
Not one mention of these electric bikes or scooters. Yeah lets go for the low hanging fruit as usual.

Quite. Im surprised that people are still complaining about cyclists being two abreast or in the middle of the lane. It's safer for cyclists and they are more vulnerable than car users so should be kept safe.

https://www.britishcycling.org.uk/campaigning/article/20220127-Highway-Code-%E2%80%93-Riding-two-abreast-0

It’s funny, during my CBT my instructor was very clear with assume all vehicles are out to kill you…it seems a daft sentiment but actually it’s designed to make you consider how vulnerable you are on a motorbike.

If more cyclist’s had the same approach then I think it would be better, but there does seem to be an awful lot of cyclists who believe the road belongs to them and only them and everyone should make way for them.

The city I live in has spent millions putting bicycle lanes in and yet you still get the arrogant cyclists on the road-why willingly put yourself in the dangerous path when there is a safe place for you to be?

In 2923 1, 624 people were killed by motorists. 4 people were killed by cyclists. .

This is slightly more than the number of people (3) killed by cows and less than the number of people (5) killed by trees.

So to do the most good, it's probably more important to look at tackling the issue of dangerous trees which are consistently responsible for more death and injuries than cyclists.

There are irresponsible road users all over, be it pedestrians, cyclists, or drivers. Bad drivers kill other people, including cyclists and pedestrians. Cyclists and pedestrians are more likely to get themselves killed.

I walk the school run every morning, it isn't cyclists that I am in fear of as I cross (at traffic lights) and then again (with no lights) nearer the school. I'd go as far as to say most drivers go through red lights, often after the green man appears, go through zebra crossings, speed, drive after mounting the pavement to park, ignore the cycle box, etc etc. Meanwhile I'm trying to teach children how to get to school safely. Cyclists are the least of my worry.

The lesson is for the police to do their bloody job and confiscate these modified bikes on the grounds that they are illegal on public roads and cycle paths. The police here recently had one well-publicised day in which they confiscated some of these bikes, but it was only for one day and doesn’t seem to have deterred the riders of illegal bikes. It needs some sustained action.

I work near Waterloo, and used to work near bank. How there are hundreds of accidents every day I have no idea. It is chaos. The electric line / forest bikes are just dangerous. Pedestrians and cyclists don't follow the lights.

This is a really horrible attitude. Deaf/hard of hearing people exist.

How do you see my hearing aid from that far away and when approaching at that speed?

More to the point, how do you know that I'm not wearing my hearing aid because the battery's run out?

Cyclists can be absolutely selfish and take up all the road while, especially when there's 3 of them next to each other for no bloody reason.

God, I'm fed up hearing this. I am not a cyclist, but I don't think it's difficult to understand that riding 2 or 3 abreast is safer for the cyclists. This way they are a wider body and thus become the equivalent of a slower moving vehicle. You don't honk your horn and take stupid risks to squeeze past a digger or a tractor, so why do it to cyclists who are much more vulnerable? Squeezing them into the gutter just so that you can get down the road a bit faster. We all have to share the roads. Have a bit of patience FFS.

Just copy the Dutch.

Unfortunately that means massively investing in infrastructure and rethinking the entire way city planning works so it's never going to happen.

Loads of terrible cyclists and loads of terrible drivers on the road. Loads of terrible pedestrians too.

Well, I think the dog bashing ones have been done to death recently, so we've circled back to cyclists. Will be horse poo on the road again soon.

Oh goody, it's been a while since we've had a cyclist bashing thread!

What if they’re deaf?!

I’m a pedestrian (mostly, day to day) and a car driver sometimes. I don’t ride a bike.

There’s a busy junction outside the tube station near the office where I work, including a cycle lane (cycle superhighway). As a rule vehicles obey the lights. Sometimes pedestrians cross half the lane (to a substantial island, not just hovering on the dotted line) when they can see there’s no traffic. Unfortunately it’s quite common for cyclists to cross the junction when pedestrians have the green man to cross (and believe me that green man doesn’t last long). I’m sorry to say when I’m a pedestrian at that crossing it’s the cyclists that worry me most. There is a significant minority who act like vehicles when it suits them and pedestrians when it suits them.

Having said that I do recognise that being a cyclist must feel very vulnerable in traffic too. Especially with large vehicles like buses and lorries turning left. But the cyclist behaviour I’ve seen above doesn’t help their reputation .

My city recently built some brilliant new cycle paths away from the roads. However, they themselves have now been taken over by delivery guys on modified electric bikes, going far too fast, wrong direction, cutting in and out etc. So a lot of cyclists have now gone back on to the roads, just antagonises drivers as they see a perfectly good cycle lane not being used. Don't know what the solution is tbh.

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Bit of nuance between mowing down a cyclist than catching the bottom of someone's jacket on my bike handle 😂
Dick move and if you end up getting caught and injuring yourself you'd deserve it