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Date nights falling flat on its face, partner says I’m being a spoilt brat/unreasonable when I explain my feelings on the matter

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Lilollipop · 11/02/2025 15:03

Been long term with my partner of 8 years. I’m 45, he is 56

I know its common for the honeymoon period to wear off and you can easily fall into a rut with each other, the longer you are together sometimes it just requires a bit of effort.

For the first 4/5 years, our date nights were great. Partner would ask if I wanted to go for a nice date in a restaurant, I would book it, We would put effort into our clothes, have nice conversation, laugh and there was always sexual tension/seduction/flirting followed by nice sex after it. We both enjoyed ourselves and looked forward to these.

The past year or so especially, our dates have been nothing like this and I have tried to address this with partner, because I miss that with him but as far as he is concerned, I am being a spoilt brat (his words), and unreasonable for asking that we both try put a little bit more effort into it.

The reason I feel like there’s room for improvement is because our dates now are very different.

  • Partner started getting into the habit of having his phone during the meal and responding to text messages. He had previously been of the view that that was rude when you’re on a romantic date….suddenly, its ok.
  • The date nights started becoming ‘business as usual’, ie, talking about problems we might be having with our kids, bills, work, practicalities. No sexy ambience to it. I can’t remember that last time we went on a date night and had sex after it.
  • Asks for a romantic day out and we end up looking at the men’s section of clothes, or watches etc

Honestly, while it’s pleasant and cordial enough, it feels too casual and almost platonic.

He keeps asking the day before these dates if im excited and looking forward to it. I genuinely do but end up feeling disappointed when there’s hardly any romantic edge to it now.

I have brought this up asking if we could improve on this. He is not open or receptive to hearing this kind of thing and its real, real hard work because he immediately feels that I am attacking him for suggesting we try put more effort in and THAT becomes the issue.

After manoeuvring around all that, he eventually says ok, will put more into it. This was weeks ago.

Our last date, last week, we planned to spend a nice day together followed by a meal. He said he’s looking forward to a romantic day with me (we dont live together).

The day was very nice, sweet, affectionate etc. He said this is a nice date etc…Then he asked me to go into a shirt shop with him. He wanted to get shirts. He didn’t know which ones so asked me to pick them. It took a while because there were different sections, different styles etc and he had no input at all, it was all for me to pick.

He wanted 3 shirts and me to pick them. I did and then we left and went for a meal later.

i said to him that I felt like staff or a personal assistant. He has never ever done that before. Meaning if we are out on a date and he treats himself, he would always treat me too even if it was small, I appreciated the sentiment.

He also knew that I was skint and I felt like it was being insensitive to that by having me painstakingly pick 3 shirts for him on a DATE, spoiling himself and getting me to do the work of it.

I just felt like it was really self focused and he already agreed to put more effort in

He says I am a spoilt brat for and unbelievable for this and for feeling like our date nights are just too casual, and asking for us to put more effort in as a couple to keep the spark alive.

AIBU?

i would really appreciate some perspective here, thanks

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BringMeTea · 11/02/2025 18:25

Oh OP. You deserve better. You really really do. Time to get rid of him. 💐

ssd · 11/02/2025 18:25

Date nights are just a bit silly IMHO

MissUltraViolet · 11/02/2025 18:23

For goodness sake, name calling has been relentless for years, lack of effort, ED issues and much older than you?

Who cares about the shit dates. Time to call it a day, plenty of men out there that won’t abuse you.

OneShoeShort · 11/02/2025 18:22

OP, I can’t get a good read on how unreasonable you’re being - you aren’t answering people’s questions about what the rest of this relationship consists of or whether you’re planning and paying for any of these dates.

But here’s the advice I recently gave my niece who is having her first post-university dating wobbles and maybe just maybe it’s useful food for thought for you too: the man who talks about you being or treats you as a princess in the beginning is the same man who will call you ungrateful and spoiled later. Relationships that are built on one person being generous in very conspicuous, compartmentalized ways depend on the recipient performing gratitude, and that sort of no-commitment generosity leaves the giver with their hand on the tap turning it off and on at will - that’s the appeal.

Never2many · 11/02/2025 18:21

TBH I think that when a relationship deteriorates to the point that you can no longer live together it is already over.

You split up the moment he moved out, the rest now is just pretence to avoid openly admitting you’re not together any more.

I can see why you would want date nights esp based on the reasons why he moved out, but it seems clear that this relationship has run its course.

blueshoes · 11/02/2025 18:20

I just read your latest posts about the relentless name calling. That is why he called you a spoilt brat, jesus. He is not emotionally supporting you, quite the opposite. Contempt is hard to come back from and is a relationship killer.

Not sure what he brings to the relationship. Wouldn't you be better off without him since you are so much younger? Can the trash take itself out?

Stravaig · 11/02/2025 18:20

Dror · 11/02/2025 17:53

Can you expand on why you want flirty, sexy dates with a casual boyfriend who has called you dreadful names for years?

This, OP.

I think the only relationship you should contemplate right now is with an experienced accredited therapist who can help you reset your boundaries and review your ideas about love, support, and partnership.

Lairymary · 11/02/2025 18:19

So you're in a huff because you're skint and he bought himself some shirts? Should you even be going out on the luxury of a date night if you can't afford it, or is he expected to pay for it? Maybe he's had enough of being the one doling out the treats.

SquashedSquid · 11/02/2025 18:18

My god, you sound like hard work.

RawBloomers · 11/02/2025 18:17

Gettingslimmer · 11/02/2025 18:02

He’s also paying for the date itself. She’s hardly going without. He pays for everything, she doesn’t put her hand in her pocket and never treats him.

as said, I think this is an affair.

I haven’t seen OP say she never treats him.

Him paying isn’t relevant unless he’s unhappy doing so. The point is he’s making a date be about him not both of them.

Maybe he is having an affair or he does see it as buying her time and he’s decided to cut the rate. Still shitty of him.

Lilollipop · 11/02/2025 18:16

blueshoes · 11/02/2025 18:14

He called you a spoiled brat? That is very unpleasant and belittling.

It also belies the fact that he thinks your relative youth is a problem.

Is he slowing down in other ways? Does he have a touch of ED and is avoiding sex hence going down the companionship route rather than romantic and sexy?

Yes, been ED issues

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blueshoes · 11/02/2025 18:14

He called you a spoiled brat? That is very unpleasant and belittling.

It also belies the fact that he thinks your relative youth is a problem.

Is he slowing down in other ways? Does he have a touch of ED and is avoiding sex hence going down the companionship route rather than romantic and sexy?

Discombobble · 11/02/2025 18:14

“You mention kids, which means leaving the phones off is not an option. We check our phones just in case it is child related, but do tend to put them away otherwise”

what do people imagine people did before mobile phones? If you trust the babysitter, where’s the problem?

Lilollipop · 11/02/2025 18:13

alwaysdeleteyourcookies · 11/02/2025 18:09

Then why stay for this long? This doesn't match your OP.

I know its sounds stupid but I love him and he always said he would work on that stuff. He would for a while but it would never last, guess I kept thinking it would change one day

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alwaysdeleteyourcookies · 11/02/2025 18:11

Lilollipop · 11/02/2025 18:02

We lived together for 7 years. We decided to end it but a few days after that he said why dont we live separately and work on things.

One of the things he agreed to work on was his disrespect and name calling. I was also constantly told that whatever I thought or felt was wrong.

it was actually his suggestion that we have these dates to rekindle things while living apart, but like anything, if i state any of my needs, I get told how demanding I am.

My BIL was diagnosed with cancer 6 months ago. Partner was coming the next day to stay over. I asked him in a text to give me a cuddle the next day (he’d been having problems showing affection) and it caused all out war and name calling and I thought then, is this really normal, asking for a hug and and it turning into a massacre?

You are right, romance is the least of my problems, its just another example of how we just dont work together at all.

In these posts he's an arsehole, and you should clearly get out. For good this time.

alwaysdeleteyourcookies · 11/02/2025 18:09

Lilollipop · 11/02/2025 17:39

This is exactly how ive been feeling. He is checking out but too comfy to end it. Not based on these dates, but a whole stack of other low effort issues on his part. The name calling has been dreadful and relentless for years.

Then why stay for this long? This doesn't match your OP.

Nothatgingerpirate · 11/02/2025 18:07

You OBVIOUSLY deserve better, if date nights and nice sex afterwards are your thing.
However, 45 yo here as well, I would ditch him and never bother for eternity.
But, everyone is different.

category12 · 11/02/2025 18:06

Lilollipop · 11/02/2025 18:02

We lived together for 7 years. We decided to end it but a few days after that he said why dont we live separately and work on things.

One of the things he agreed to work on was his disrespect and name calling. I was also constantly told that whatever I thought or felt was wrong.

it was actually his suggestion that we have these dates to rekindle things while living apart, but like anything, if i state any of my needs, I get told how demanding I am.

My BIL was diagnosed with cancer 6 months ago. Partner was coming the next day to stay over. I asked him in a text to give me a cuddle the next day (he’d been having problems showing affection) and it caused all out war and name calling and I thought then, is this really normal, asking for a hug and and it turning into a massacre?

You are right, romance is the least of my problems, its just another example of how we just dont work together at all.

Yeah, I think you should end this halfway house of "dating" each other.

Breaking up was the right thing to do, shame you got sucked back in.

Fortunately breaking up is not a one-time only offer.

Lilollipop · 11/02/2025 18:06

Gettingslimmer · 11/02/2025 18:02

He’s also paying for the date itself. She’s hardly going without. He pays for everything, she doesn’t put her hand in her pocket and never treats him.

as said, I think this is an affair.

You know that I never treat him? How is this possible?

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Gettingslimmer · 11/02/2025 18:02

RawBloomers · 11/02/2025 18:00

I agree that saying no, I want to do X would be a decent way to handle it. But OP indicates it had become a norm for them that he would take her shopping for him and buy her something small at the same time. Personally I would not enjoy the dynamic but it works for some. It’s not at all uncommon in relationships for one party to subsidize the other if incomes aren’t equal. Often because the richer party doesn’t want to stick to what the less well off party can afford. Unless their shopping trips started because she pushed for it, it’s not unreasonable of her to go along with it if they both enjoy it.

Now the dynamic has changed she ought to say no I want to do X, but he’s still selfish to suggest something she gets nothing out of (except a reminder she’s broke) on a date.

He’s also paying for the date itself. She’s hardly going without. He pays for everything, she doesn’t put her hand in her pocket and never treats him.

as said, I think this is an affair.

Lilollipop · 11/02/2025 18:02

Notonthestairs · 11/02/2025 17:42

I am surprised you chose to continue with date nights with someone that has called you names for years. Romance is the last of your problems.

Bin and block.

We lived together for 7 years. We decided to end it but a few days after that he said why dont we live separately and work on things.

One of the things he agreed to work on was his disrespect and name calling. I was also constantly told that whatever I thought or felt was wrong.

it was actually his suggestion that we have these dates to rekindle things while living apart, but like anything, if i state any of my needs, I get told how demanding I am.

My BIL was diagnosed with cancer 6 months ago. Partner was coming the next day to stay over. I asked him in a text to give me a cuddle the next day (he’d been having problems showing affection) and it caused all out war and name calling and I thought then, is this really normal, asking for a hug and and it turning into a massacre?

You are right, romance is the least of my problems, its just another example of how we just dont work together at all.

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RawBloomers · 11/02/2025 18:00

Gettingslimmer · 11/02/2025 17:14

lol, she could have said no, I want to do x instead. Stunned anyone thinks yeah ok I will go shopping if you pay me is acceptable .

I agree that saying no, I want to do X would be a decent way to handle it. But OP indicates it had become a norm for them that he would take her shopping for him and buy her something small at the same time. Personally I would not enjoy the dynamic but it works for some. It’s not at all uncommon in relationships for one party to subsidize the other if incomes aren’t equal. Often because the richer party doesn’t want to stick to what the less well off party can afford. Unless their shopping trips started because she pushed for it, it’s not unreasonable of her to go along with it if they both enjoy it.

Now the dynamic has changed she ought to say no I want to do X, but he’s still selfish to suggest something she gets nothing out of (except a reminder she’s broke) on a date.

imtheholidayarmadillo · 11/02/2025 17:59

Hwi · 11/02/2025 16:54

Biology! Please don't ignore it! You are still shit-hot, as they say, but he is OLD! Why do people forget about biology?

  1. Old. 😂😂😂

You're funny.

Gettingslimmer · 11/02/2025 17:59

Is one of you married op? Sexy date days/nights, relationship not progressing, 8 years, wanting gifts, he pays for everything. Is this an affair?

Applesonthelawn · 11/02/2025 17:58

You sound quite focussed on romance, more than I think most people could be bothered with by year 8. DH and I have sweet/funny moments often but they are just moments and we don't make special appointments for them - but that works for us. But if this is who you are, and he wants to be with you, then he has to work with that. It sounds like he was prepared to work with it at first but over time he's settled more into being himself and that's not so much the romantic date type.

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