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Date nights falling flat on its face, partner says I’m being a spoilt brat/unreasonable when I explain my feelings on the matter

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Lilollipop · 11/02/2025 15:03

Been long term with my partner of 8 years. I’m 45, he is 56

I know its common for the honeymoon period to wear off and you can easily fall into a rut with each other, the longer you are together sometimes it just requires a bit of effort.

For the first 4/5 years, our date nights were great. Partner would ask if I wanted to go for a nice date in a restaurant, I would book it, We would put effort into our clothes, have nice conversation, laugh and there was always sexual tension/seduction/flirting followed by nice sex after it. We both enjoyed ourselves and looked forward to these.

The past year or so especially, our dates have been nothing like this and I have tried to address this with partner, because I miss that with him but as far as he is concerned, I am being a spoilt brat (his words), and unreasonable for asking that we both try put a little bit more effort into it.

The reason I feel like there’s room for improvement is because our dates now are very different.

  • Partner started getting into the habit of having his phone during the meal and responding to text messages. He had previously been of the view that that was rude when you’re on a romantic date….suddenly, its ok.
  • The date nights started becoming ‘business as usual’, ie, talking about problems we might be having with our kids, bills, work, practicalities. No sexy ambience to it. I can’t remember that last time we went on a date night and had sex after it.
  • Asks for a romantic day out and we end up looking at the men’s section of clothes, or watches etc

Honestly, while it’s pleasant and cordial enough, it feels too casual and almost platonic.

He keeps asking the day before these dates if im excited and looking forward to it. I genuinely do but end up feeling disappointed when there’s hardly any romantic edge to it now.

I have brought this up asking if we could improve on this. He is not open or receptive to hearing this kind of thing and its real, real hard work because he immediately feels that I am attacking him for suggesting we try put more effort in and THAT becomes the issue.

After manoeuvring around all that, he eventually says ok, will put more into it. This was weeks ago.

Our last date, last week, we planned to spend a nice day together followed by a meal. He said he’s looking forward to a romantic day with me (we dont live together).

The day was very nice, sweet, affectionate etc. He said this is a nice date etc…Then he asked me to go into a shirt shop with him. He wanted to get shirts. He didn’t know which ones so asked me to pick them. It took a while because there were different sections, different styles etc and he had no input at all, it was all for me to pick.

He wanted 3 shirts and me to pick them. I did and then we left and went for a meal later.

i said to him that I felt like staff or a personal assistant. He has never ever done that before. Meaning if we are out on a date and he treats himself, he would always treat me too even if it was small, I appreciated the sentiment.

He also knew that I was skint and I felt like it was being insensitive to that by having me painstakingly pick 3 shirts for him on a DATE, spoiling himself and getting me to do the work of it.

I just felt like it was really self focused and he already agreed to put more effort in

He says I am a spoilt brat for and unbelievable for this and for feeling like our date nights are just too casual, and asking for us to put more effort in as a couple to keep the spark alive.

AIBU?

i would really appreciate some perspective here, thanks

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LucyLoo1972 · 17/01/2026 18:27

YouDeserveBetterSoAskForIt · 11/02/2025 15:54

The fact that you don't live together means that the honeymoon period should last FAR longer.

But I don't really believe in the honeymoon period anyway, it's an excuse for people to get lazy and blame it on it being "normal".

My DH and I have been together 11 years and have lived together for over 10.
There's no way either of us would go on our phones when out for a meal, that is beyond rude.

We enjoy shopping with each other but your partner doing it whilst knowing you are short of money AND expecting you to choose them isn't okay.

It's about thoughtlessness paired with expecting yoh to pick up the mental labour of shopping for him. It is stressful trying to choose someone else's clothes, ensuring they will look good and like them etc.

The fact that you brought it up with him and he reacted like that is a bad sign. It seems to me like he is taking you for granted and wants to ensure you stop asking for more by being horrible when you do.
He can't like or love you very much, to treat you like this.
It does sound as though you may now be just friends (and not good ones at that).

mental labour is exactly it - my husabnd literally cannot buy himself a single item of clothing except for terribel underpants and socks.

the mental labour is huge - I once spent three hours in a shop with him for him to come out with three jumpers

I ended up having a psychotic break

OlderGlaswegianLivingInDevon · 14/02/2025 17:19

You should have just stayed split up after 7 years and not dragged it out for another year.

Does he actually like you ? as the name calling says different...

Viviennemary · 13/02/2025 21:15

You've got a rosy idealistic view of a relationship. I'd be bored too with trying to have romantic dinners after a number of years.

ItGhoul · 13/02/2025 21:12

Starlight1984 · 12/02/2025 09:35

You go on and on and on about "romantic dates" (WTF does that even mean anyway?!) but then drop in that he calls you a pathetic cunt.

Are you that desperate for a relationship OP?

Absolutely this. Even now, OP, you are STILL focusing on the dates, even after mentioning that he calls you a cunt and is awful in bed. Seriously, just dump him. The dates are a red herring.

mihinobis · 12/02/2025 09:44

When I read the OP I thought I'd just tell you it's too much effort and things shouldn't be this hard. After 8 years a relationship needs to have developed beyond dating - whether that's living together, or living apart but together or marriage or whatever - but it needs to be more than "dates". I'd associate "date nights" of the type you are describing more with a couple who live together and probably have children and want to carve out a bit of special time just for them while a babysitter or family member looks after the children.

Then you went on to dripfeed how you'd actually been living together for 7 years and then decided to split and then someone (I forget who) suggested having these dates to see if you could rekindle something. And on top of that in addition to him calling you a "spoilt brat" he's used all kinds of other names.

This relationship is dead in the water and cannot be revived. It was dead when you decided to stop living together and was presumably dead before then because it wasn't working for either of you. Relationships need to progress, not go backwards like this and there's no point in flogging a dead horse.

Stop the date nights with this awful man. At least you have already stopped living together so it will be easier to end this.
If you want to go on dates, find someone else to go on dates with who you have fun with and doesn't call you names.
Or remain single (for a while at least) and fill your time with fun activities with your friends or with yourself.
What you are currently doing sounds thoroughly miserable and is a complete and utter waste of time because it's not reviving a flagging relationship and it's not leading anywhere.

Starlight1984 · 12/02/2025 09:35

You go on and on and on about "romantic dates" (WTF does that even mean anyway?!) but then drop in that he calls you a pathetic cunt.

Are you that desperate for a relationship OP?

ValentineValentineV · 12/02/2025 08:18

Try a different activity, my DH and I enjoy watching comedians at our local theatre, laughter is good for you. Sometimes we go to Top Golf or bowling and have day time dates with costal walks and a lunch out.

Quiinkong · 12/02/2025 08:15

I would have said you need to have 1 last sit down with him and let him know how you're feeling about everything but it seems that's been tried and tested with negative results. 8yrs together is no joke. If you're happy with everything else except date nights, then start declining them, might make him realise he's actually fucking up. But then, why did he only want you again after you moved out after 7yrs of living together? Just sounds like he doesn't wanna let go of something comfortable and have to start all over again with someone else. I could of course be wrong but make sure you have given it your all to avoid singing shoulda woulda coulda in the future

InWalksBarberalla · 12/02/2025 03:48

Why are you even in a relationship with this man? You don't need an excuse to break up. Just dump the asshole and all the problems go away. You could probably even buy a good vibrator for the cost of one of these dates nights.

BlondiePortz · 12/02/2025 03:18

This all sounds very high maintenance

And yes as someome else referred too the word date after this long comes across as odd

And it seems you feel you need to be cared for, like you are a doll?

I am not sure if it is just the typing style you have used but something feels off with it all

LemonMyrtle · 12/02/2025 02:49

You both sound you are on different pages not sure why you are still together. The name calling is awful by the way. For that and since you live apart and not married, it is easy to break it off. I assume the kids are older and either his or yours (not both), but not really part of this issue.

Make your own money, don’t rely on him for anything, dump him. All that build up language he is using, could find thousands of dark romance books with the same content. But they actually follow through. Highly recommend!

Lilollipop · 12/02/2025 02:37

Lilollipop · 12/02/2025 02:30

Yeah, right? I felt like Erin the errand runner

He absolutely wouldn’t do the same for me now…….used to but not now

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Lilollipop · 12/02/2025 02:30

cherish123 · 12/02/2025 00:37

P.S. he needs to run his own errands.

Yeah, right? I felt like Erin the errand runner

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Lilollipop · 12/02/2025 02:26

SnowFrogJelly · 12/02/2025 00:45

I don't really get what the issue is over date nights and choosing shirts

You’ll probably get it when youre in a sinking boat with someone and even the daft things become major issues.

I would imagine when you’re happy with someone, it feels happy

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Lilollipop · 12/02/2025 02:22

cherish123 · 12/02/2025 00:36

I would not expect to be still going on dates after 8 years. I assume you don't live together. You could still go out for drinks/meals out. Dressing up/high end restaurants might be nice if you want it to be romantic. However, maybe your boyfriend doesn't want to go out like this. Compromise ?

We do all this all the time,. Normal couple in that respect…….we go out, shopping, errands majority of the time. He blows these days up prior to it….big time…we get there and it’s casual…..have no issue with casual….most of our time is casual but he does go on about how great it’s gonna be and how sexy im gonna be and how romantic he says he wants it to be……..then I find we are in a restaurant just eating out.

that is fine but maybe dont blow it up so much, turn up and give minimal….then explode at me because i say this is a bit shit, this whole thing

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Lilollipop · 12/02/2025 01:17

Exactly, and thats how I felt. I have no problem running errands
, ive been the admin for this whole thing.

I just resent being told this a romantic date and he bumps it to such.

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SnowFrogJelly · 12/02/2025 00:45

I don't really get what the issue is over date nights and choosing shirts

cherish123 · 12/02/2025 00:37

P.S. he needs to run his own errands.

cherish123 · 12/02/2025 00:36

I would not expect to be still going on dates after 8 years. I assume you don't live together. You could still go out for drinks/meals out. Dressing up/high end restaurants might be nice if you want it to be romantic. However, maybe your boyfriend doesn't want to go out like this. Compromise ?

ItalianDreaming · 12/02/2025 00:22

Where is your autonomy in all of this?

Don't go shirt shopping if you don't want to.
Start the conversations you want to have.
Stop giving abusive men blow jobs.
Leave.

Chairbowtie · 12/02/2025 00:20

Agree it's run its course.

I think he wants to keep you as a fallback girl, but emotionally detach, which is why he's offering you the date nights but being nasty.

He doesn't want you to be out there dating others and building a new social life without him.

Maybe he's on the apps and wants to appear single at home.

Or if he's talking to some young woman on the apps he wants to say he's not really in a relationship, it's just friends with you.

I'd get rid of him, go completely NC and not let him draw you back in.

Men in their 50's with a bit of money/status/social skills can be total players, they often want to collect women before they get "too old".

If he's on the apps he may be thinking he's in with a chance with 35 year old women if that agree to meet with him.

bluegreen89 · 11/02/2025 21:52

I can't think of anything worse than having sex after I've eaten dinner...

Eenameenadeeka · 11/02/2025 21:30

Texting during the meal is rude but the rest of it I don't see the issue. "Painstakingly" picking shirts? Really? Sounds like you expect him to be shopping for you instead, which is unreasonable.

DorothyStorm · 11/02/2025 21:25

Lilollipop · 11/02/2025 18:13

I know its sounds stupid but I love him and he always said he would work on that stuff. He would for a while but it would never last, guess I kept thinking it would change one day

He isnt though.

One of the things he agreed to work on was his disrespect and name calling.
So he has decided to no longer work on this.

Makeacircle · 11/02/2025 21:21

OP, why on earth are you focussed on these date nights in the rest of this shit show? The date night you desire is just putting lipstick on a pig. Get and stay away from him